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Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

The revenge-types will love this.

I am against it and all killings by the state in the name of 'Justice'.

Throw him in jail for life...protect society from him. But don't kill him.

The death penalty is for the ignorant and the weak, IMO.


Btw, I wonder how many Bible-thumpers will approve of this/any execution? You know, with that 'Thou shalt not kill' stuff and all.

No doubt they will find a Bible loophole.
 
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They make that decision with the same information presented to the jury at the time of the trial. Unless this parole board is staffed with a group of people who are dramatically different than those of the jury, they will come to the same conclusion as the jury did.



The real trick, of course, is to fix known issues within our court and appeals process to make 40K per year for the next 50 years be less money than 5-10 years of appeals process for the death penalty.

The parole board is dramatically different than a trial jury. If you support anything other than the death penalty for this guy, you have to be real about acknowledging that there is a chance, however remote, that he'll be released.
 
The revenge-types will love this.

I am against it and all killings by the state in the name of 'Justice'.

The death penalty is for the ignorant and the weak, IMO.


Btw, I wonder how many Bible-thumpers will approve of this/any execution? You know, with that 'Thou shalt not kill' stuff and all.

And here's a good example of how some notorious killers actually have fans
 
Barbaric is blowing a child to bits as he watches a marathon. He knew he would be killing children and he did it anyway.

His sentence is far better than he deserves.

That's the problem. The bomber will be killed humanely in a relatively comfortable setting. If we're going to have the death penalty, it ought to be unpleasant. Let's make him an example. He ought to be hanged in public just like the old days.
 
The parole board is dramatically different than a trial jury. If you support anything other than the death penalty for this guy, you have to be real about acknowledging that there is a chance, however remote, that he'll be released.

OK.



Because there is a .00001% chance that this guy might get released on parole 50 years from now, we should spend millions more than the cost of incarceration to seek the death penalty.

It's a poor financial decision.
 
And here's a good example of how some notorious killers actually have fans

You post lacks reality.

Which notorious killer is this person promoting?:confused:
 
Boston bomber Tsarnaev sentenced to death for 2013 attack

So my guess is Sister Helen Prejean's testimony to play on the sentimental feelings of the jury didn't work as lethal injection will be in this bastards future. He'll be most likely transported to a supermax, spending 23 and 1/2 hours in his cell while his lawyer no doubt will start the grind of appeals. Hopefully within a relatively short decade and a half - he'll get the needle, assuming the laws don't change between now and then.

He will look like a martyr to some and as a good example to emulate.
 
The parole board is dramatically different than a trial jury. If you support anything other than the death penalty for this guy, you have to be real about acknowledging that there is a chance, however remote, that he'll be released.

There actually isn't any chance he would go before a parole board if he was given life without parole for federal crimes, the only way he would ever walk free again is if he was pardoned by the president.
 
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OK.



Because there is a .00001% chance that this guy might get released on parole 50 years from now, we should spend millions more than the cost of incarceration to seek the death penalty.

It's a poor financial decision.

Hopefully in the near future we can change that. It should not cost millions to put a murder to death.
 
Hopefully in the near future we can change that. It should not cost millions to put a murder to death.

What you are suggesting means a complete change to the entire way of life for a demographic of very wealthy, powerful people; defense attorneys.


In other words, your hope is quite the long shot.
 
You post lacks reality.

Which notorious killer is this person promoting?:confused:

Does he seem particularly upset with this notorious killer? Who is his anger more clearly directed at?
 
I think it was an appropriate sentence.

I also think it's an exercise in futility that will cost the American taxpayers a ridiculous amount of $$ to deal with.

See in this particular case, he never said he didn't do it - his lawyer admitted he did it, the overwhelming evidence shows there is no mistaken identity, so why not let his lawyer file maybe up to 5 appeals maximum to try and reverse the death penalty and then just put a .22 through this kids brain and save everyone a lot of time, expense and chicanery.
 
And here's a good example of how some notorious killers actually have fans

There's a difference between being against the DP and being a fan of a notorious killer.
You're better than that, much better .
 
An unrepentant terrorist that murdered several and injured many is befitting of the death penalty. Generally I am against it, but in cases like this where guilt is pretty much 100% evident and the defendant unrepentant it's better to have them put down as they pose a threat to other lives.

I truly hope he's able to find it within himself to repent of what he did.
 
Does he seem particularly upset with this notorious killer? Who is his anger more clearly directed at?

This is exactly where the "right" is coming from with Geller.
If you don't support her right to create conditions for mass murder, you are a supporter of jihadi terrorists, which I have been called countless times up here .
 
An unrepentant terrorist that murdered several and injured many is befitting of the death penalty. Generally I am against it, but in cases like this where guilt is pretty much 100% evident and the defendant unrepentant it's better to have them put down as they pose a threat to other lives.

I truly hope he's able to find it within himself to repent of what he did.

If we are really posting what we hope?

I hope he kills himself as soon as possible. No blame for society, no $$$$ for taxpayers.

You know...so he finds 'peace' and can have his image of Allah 'congratulate' him.

But I'm not particularly proud of this.
 
I agree with the sentence.
Coming from a "liberal" state, I don't see many "righties" applauding Massachusetts.
Since accusations of "lefty" and "liberal" as something bad seems to be the rage these days on every other issue.

I'd prefer one set of rules on the death penalty---meaning the 10th amendment shouldn't be around here either .

An unrepentant terrorist that murdered several and injured many is befitting of the death penalty. Generally I am against it, but in cases like this where guilt is pretty much 100% evident and the defendant unrepentant it's better to have them put down as they pose a threat to other lives.

I truly hope he's able to find it within himself to repent of what he did.
 
Does he seem particularly upset with this notorious killer? Who is his anger more clearly directed at?

It appears his anger is directed at murderous intent.
 
If we are really posting what we hope?

I hope he kills himself as soon as possible. No blame for society, no $$$$ for taxpayers.

You know...so he finds 'peace' and can have his image of Allah 'congratulate' him.

But I'm not particularly proud of this.

I'm of the opinion that those who genuinely repent should be forgiven (although still be subject to justice and their sentence), but I'd be lying if I didn't say I feel like he should die quickly to save taxpayer money in a painful way similar to what he inflicted on others. The whole falling asleep and never waking up with lethal injection is too good for him as he is now.
 
I have never understood why the death penalty is considered a more just punishment than life in prison. Life in a supermax prison DOES suck. Death is just a dreamless sleep. No suffering, no regrets, no nothing. Just like before one is born...nothing.

People kill themselves to escape dispair. We often feel relief when a loved one suffering from a terminal and painful disease finally passes away, not because we want them gone, but because they are finally no longer suffering.

Euthanizing one's beloved pet when it is in incurable pain is considered a kindness by most people.

And now we are going to extend this same kindness to a killer rather than make him endure incarceration for the rest of his life.

I don't get it.


I just don't get it.
 
If we are really posting what we hope?

I hope he kills himself as soon as possible. No blame for society, no $$$$ for taxpayers.

You know...so he finds 'peace' and can have his image of Allah 'congratulate' him.

But I'm not particularly proud of this.

He won't. Suicide denies him entrance to heaven.

He must be slain by his enemies in order to be ASSURED a place in heaven.
 
There actually isn't any chance he would go before a parole board if he was given life without parole for federal crimes, the only way he would ever walk free again is if he was pardoned by the president.

but he could keep filing all sorts of lawsuits for many decades to come, all at taxpayers expense
 
This is exactly where the "right" is coming from with Geller.
If you don't support her right to create conditions for mass murder, you are a supporter of jihadi terrorists, which I have been called countless times up here .

In Gellers case, the terrorists created the conditions for mass murder-when they showed up with guns and bombs.

Get your thinking straight.
 
I'm of the opinion that those who genuinely repent should be forgiven (although still be subject to justice and their sentence), but I'd be lying if I didn't say I feel like he should die quickly to save taxpayer money in a painful way similar to what he inflicted on others. The whole falling asleep and never waking up with lethal injection is too good for him as he is now.

And that is up to God or Allah or their god. Correct?

I have no idea if he did or will repent. Nor do I care.
 
I have never understood why the death penalty is considered a more just punishment than life in prison. Life in a supermax prison DOES suck. Death is just a dreamless sleep. No suffering, no regrets, no nothing. Just like before one is born...nothing.

People kill themselves to escape dispair. We often feel relief when a loved one suffering from a terminal and painful disease finally passes away, not because we want them gone, but because they are finally no longer suffering.

Euthanizing one's beloved pet when it is in incurable pain is considered a kindness by most people.

And now we are going to extend this same kindness to a killer raged than make him endure incarceration for the rest of his life.

I don't get it.


I just don't get it.

I'm in the same boat, bob.


No longer affecting life IS death, as faar as I'm concerned. And when you're behind bars, you're no longer affecting life.
 
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