Baltimore: thousands of suspects arrive too injured to go to jail, records show

EMNofSeattle said:

except you can't take videos shot in different cities, states, and varying circumstances and use them to prove the specific officer who arrested you is lying.

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No, you can't.

And nobody is saying that any particular cop is lying.

We're saying that police in general have gotten to the point where they've lost all credibility.

After seeing these videos (of cops abusing their authority, of cops lying, of cops staging evidence) again, and again, and again, multiple times a day, from every sate in the union, whether the "offender" is a white woman, a black teenager, or anything in between, for a number of years now, you begin to lose faith in the police.

I'm a 45-year-old, upper middle class, college educated, home owing, Republican/Libertarian voting, Veteran, and at this point I'm as likely to believe a career felon as I am a police officer.

If, as a cop, you've lost the demographic that I belong to you're doing something very, very wrong.

Is this an indictment of any particular cop?

No.

But I can no longer trust any particular cop because law enforcement in general is rotten to the core.

I don't know who the honest cops are and who the crooked cops are.

And clearly there are so many crooked cops that trusting any of them if foolish.

I've got petit jury duty the 8th of next month.

I have NEVER made an excuse or told some wild tale in order to get out of doing my duty. I've sat on grand juries and I've been selected for and sat on a petit jury in the past. I don't consider it an inconvenience. Like my military service I consider it something that I owe to this great country.

But if it comes up during jury selection and I'm being honest I'd have to say that I don't trust police to tell the truth.

If I'm sat on a jury anyhow and the verdict hinges on a cop's credibility I'd have to discount that cop's testimony and let a potential criminal walk.

clownboy said:

It's near always that people lie to the police when they are under investigation. Why is that? Answer that and it will be obvious to you that most police hold themselves to a higher standard than the general public, not all, most.

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Nothing you've written above has anything to do with the fact that police tend to lie when they are under investigation. Thus, calling into question the credibility of police when they are the focus of scrutiny.

My point being... when do we, as the public, start assuming the police are not being honest when they're recounting an incident of their own abuse of power?

soot said:

I don't know who the honest cops are and who the crooked cops are.

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Agree 100% When are the honest cops going to start standing up for the rights of the citizens they are sworn to protect, instead of protecting their own at the cost of citizen rights?

Tettsuo said:

It's often the police who lie when they are the one's who are under investigation.

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It really depends on what's at stake - everyone lies every day to some degree. However the less important an issue the more likely a non-credible person will lie ---- I think there's a bell curve at some point where credibility ceases to be a variable and most people will lie, regardless of their past or present situation.

Political views appear to cause some to divert from what I saw as the original intent of the article found in the OP.

Whether the injuries were caused by LEOs or not, the journalist was pointing out that the cops were bringing in to the detention facilities, persons injured to the extent that the receiving officers refused to accept the arrested person. The arresting officers should have taken the injured to an emergency care location BEFORE they showed up at the jailhouse. Has nothing to do with how the injuries occurred but with the nature of the injuries.

WHY were the LEOs failing to transport the injured to a trauma center?

Somerville said:

Political views appear to cause some to divert from what I saw as the original intent of the article found in the OP.

Whether the injuries were caused by LEOs or not, the journalist was pointing out that the cops were bringing in to the detention facilities, persons injured to the extent that the receiving officers refused to accept the arrested person. The arresting officers should have taken the injured to an emergency care location BEFORE they showed up at the jailhouse. Has nothing to do with how the injuries occurred but with the nature of the injuries.

WHY were the LEOs failing to transport the injured to a trauma center?

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Interesting question. Lack of knowledge of what the jail could and could not handle? A laceration may needs stitches. Others won't. They have nurses at jails.