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Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado

But hey, sterilizing poor people is a good thing, right? That's what the left wants, right?

come on, now. is that really necessary? I get that you're passionate about this but that's ridiculous.
 
The government shouldn't be paying for a woman's private birth control. If she's poor she can get of medicaid and have the state pay for it via insurance. This whole entitlement to free birth control is wrong. Manage your own reproductive health and foot your own bill. Why waste money here when it can go to managing chronic disease or life threatening health problems?

Liberals don't believe in choice when it comes to taxpayer dollars.
 
Wait ten or fifteen years and show us how much it COST in medical and welfare costs. Of course by then those costs will be borne by the affected individuals (the poor) who went the IUD route (hey, it was FREE!) and are now sterile or had their reproductive systems and general health compromised. But hey, sterilizing poor people is a good thing, right? That's what the left wants, right?

Your disagreement is based only upon medical risks from an IUD?
 
teen pregnancy been on decline now for 25 years. I doubt a single Colorado program's cancellation will reverse that trend.
 
teen pregnancy been on decline now for 25 years. I doubt a single Colorado program's cancellation will reverse that trend.

Yeah, I enjoyed how quickly people jumped to confuse "has contributed to" with "has caused".
 
"Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado"

Excellent. I can't imagine a single way one should consider birth control as an appropriate role for government.
 
The government was given a privately funded grant, the legislation would provide state funding, thus expanding the program.
so they didn't actually kill the program like the OP made out.

they just chose not to expand the program with state funding which is 100% different issue altogether.
why is it that liberals have to lie?
 
Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado | Denver Sun Times

Republicans in the Colorado Senate killed an effort this week to set aside funding for a birth control program that provides IUDs to low-income women. The Colorado Family Planning Initiative has been praised for contributing to a 40 percent drop in teen births over the last five years. The program, previously funded by a private donor, won an award in Washington, D.C. just days ago.

so they didn't kill the program they just won't allow state funds to be used in the program. so how did they kill it again? the program still
exists does it not?

why are you and this hack of a reporter who should be fired being deceitful?
 
so they didn't actually kill the program like the OP made out.

they just chose not to expand the program with state funding which is 100% different issue altogether.
why is it that liberals have to lie?

:doh
No. The grant ended. There is literally no more program. It was a limited program, they wanted to expand it to the public at large, they did not, and the grants is no longer funding it at all.
 
"Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado"

Excellent. I can't imagine a single way one should consider birth control as an appropriate role for government.

What's that pro-choice slogan? Get the government out of the uterus?
 
What's that pro-choice slogan? Get the government out of the uterus?

As a mechanism of control, not empowerment. If the government can empower the body politic to the effect of making it more capable of informed decisions and investments, then it should.
 
As a mechanism of control, not empowerment. If the government can empower the body politic to the effect of making it more capable of informed decisions and investments, then it should.

:lol: if the government is paying for it, it controls it. You can (consistently) have one, or the other.
 
Wait ten or fifteen years and show us how much it COST in medical and welfare costs. Of course by then those costs will be borne by the affected individuals (the poor) who went the IUD route (hey, it was FREE!) and are now sterile or had their reproductive systems and general health compromised. But hey, sterilizing poor people is a good thing, right? That's what the left wants, right?

The IUD does not cause sterility.

IUDs and Infertility:

One of the common causes of infertility is tubal blockage. Approximately 1 million infertility cases are due to tubal disease. If left untreated, PID can cause inflammation and permanent blocking of the fallopian tubes. There appears to be no evidence that IUD use is associated with future infertility.

Does the IUD Cause PID and Infertility?
 
So typical. Here again comes the right with no desire to help folk prevent unwanted pregnancy, all along refusing to help the children born to those who don't want and can't afford children.
 
:doh
No. The grant ended. There is literally no more program. It was a limited program, they wanted to expand it to the public at large, they did not, and the grants is no longer funding it at all.

again they didn't kill the program. if the grant ended then the person that setup the program chose not to fund it.
why do liberals have to lie?
 
So typical. Here again comes the right with no desire to help folk prevent unwanted pregnancy, all along refusing to help the children born to those who don't want and can't afford children.

nope not at all. if you want to buy birth control for women then please go spend your own money setup an online program or charity to do so.
why should tax payers be on the hook for what should be your responsibility?

PS IUD's are not 100%.
 
great! but let's say that giving poor women birth control actually saved the state money in the long run through lower welfare payments and health care for children from unwanted pregnancies. let's just assume that that's the case. would you then be in support of giving out free birth control?

you're just looking at the issue from one perspective. of course any human being should be able to manage their own reproductive care, but if it's better for everyone to just give it to them for free, then why not? I suppose you could say that if we give it to them for free, they'll never learn the error of their ways, but I really don't believe that just letting a problem get worse is the best way to handle that problem.

If you gave them houses, cars, and a $50,000 yearly tipend, why think of the economic boom! Oh, and throw in food stamps, and free health insurance. Why think of how wonderful it could all be...
 
Republicans kill successful birth-control program in Colorado | Denver Sun Times

Republicans in the Colorado Senate killed an effort this week to set aside funding for a birth control program that provides IUDs to low-income women. The Colorado Family Planning Initiative has been praised for contributing to a 40 percent drop in teen births over the last five years. The program, previously funded by a private donor, won an award in Washington, D.C. just days ago.

"This crosses a line," says Republican Kevin Lundberg, who chairs the Senate Health Committee in Colorado. In Lundberg's view, an IUD can count as an abortion, and this makes it impossible for a program that funds IUDs to receive state funding. "The state constitution says no direct or indirect funding from the state shall go towards abortion," Lundberg says.
Colorado Debates Whether IUDs Are Contraception Or Abortion : Shots - Health News : NPR
 
nope not at all. if you want to buy birth control for women then please go spend your own money setup an online program or charity to do so.
why should tax payers be on the hook for what should be your responsibility?

PS IUD's are not 100%.

I would love to tell you to do the same for the gratuitous wars that you support America waging.
 
I would love to tell you to do the same for the gratuitous wars that you support America waging.

IE you can't rebute anything I said thanks.

you also forget 1 thing it is in the constitution that the government supply for the common defense.
there is nothing in there that says government should pay for your birth control.

so your point is moot.
 
IE you can't rebute anything I said thanks.

you also forget 1 thing it is in the constitution that the government supply for the common defense.
there is nothing in there that says government should pay for your birth control.

so your point is moot.

I'm not speaking of common defense, so you are moot.
 
I'm not speaking of common defense, so you are moot.

yes you are when you say you should say the same thing about the wars. that is providing for the common defense.
The government has the constitutional duty to protect the American people from threats both foreign and domestic.

it does not have the duty to supply birth control to people.
 
And why cant they find more private donors to expand the program?

Actually the funds were running out and they want to extend/continue not expend the program.

One person/ foundation ( anonymous ) was very generous and donated 23 million for a program to fund the IUDs.
It may been part of estate after the person passed away for all we know.

It was gift , ... The state got the savings by having reduced welfare costs.

The Colorado Family Planning Initiative, supported by a $23 million anonymous donation, provided more than 30,000 IUDs or implants to women served by the state’s 68 family-planning clinics. The state’s analysis suggests the initiative was responsible for three-quarters of the decline in the state’s teen birth rates.

Read more: History, Travel, Arts, Science, People, Places | Smithsonian
 
If it really were a health issue they wouldn't be installing IUDs in teens.

Actually according to a new study the IUDs are safe for teens.

From women's health mag

A new study published in the May issue of Obstetrics & Gynecology found that the intrauterine device—a quarter-size, T-shaped contraption that sits inside the uterus—is a safe birth control method for women of any age, including teenagers. Among the study findings: less than once percent of users developed complications, and discontinuation rates were the same across all age groups (a tip-off that younger women experienced no greater side effects or dissatisfaction than older users did).

It’s welcome news, especially since IUDs are more than 99 percent effective at blocking pregnancy for up to 10 hassle-free years. Hopefully the study will put to rest longstanding rumors that IUDs are potentially harmful.

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/iud-safety
 
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