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Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Yrs Old

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Unreal, the Masonic Fraternal Police Dept. :roll: ....these people were running around in California and telling people they are the First Police Dept in the World. That they go back to the Knights Templar. That they have SOVEREIGN Jurisdiction in 33 States. They were actually sending Letters out to Police Chiefs and communicating with them. What say ye?





An aide to California Attorney General Kamala Harris and two others claiming to be part of the "Masonic Fraternal Police Department" and descendants of the Knights Templar were arrested last week on suspicion of impersonating police officers. Brandon Kiel, the deputy director of community affairs at the California Department of Justice, has been placed on administrative leave according to The Los Angeles Times. Two others, David Henry and Tonette Hayes, were also placed in custody.

According to the Times, law enforcement officials first noticed something was amiss when several police chiefs in Southern California received a letter earlier this year that announced leadership positions for the group, which traces its origins to the mysterious medieval order known as the Knights Templar. The group claims it has sovereign jurisdiction in 33 states and Mexico, and that it has operated for thousands of years.....snip~

Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Years Old
 
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Whut?

These people may be heavily medicated... that this is tied back to Harris who's the heir apparent to Barbara Boxers Senate seat is interesting. Will Harris get the "Christy" treatment or will this all be shoved under the rug and quickly forgotten come the run up to the Senate election? Where I a betting man, it'd be at least a few C notes on the latter.
 
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Here is a pic of them.....these guys were even telling people they were descended from the Knights Templar. The Los Angeles Times broke the story that the California Demo AG's Aide was involved and had been for some time.

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A statement on the group's website cheerily claims to be the "first" police department in the world.

"When asked what is the difference between The Masonic Fraternal Police Department and other Police Departments the answer is simple for us. We were here first! We are born into this Organization our bloodlines go deeper then [sic] an application. This is more then a job [sic] it is an obligation," it reads.

But the organization denies any association to “Sovereign Citizens" -- U.S. residents who consider themselves above state and federal laws, "nor do we condone terrorist activity -- sovereign citizens or clandestine!".....snip~

Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Years Old
 
Re: Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Yrs

Whut?

These people may be heavily medicated... that this is tied back to Harris who's the heir apparent to Barbara Boxers Senate seat is interesting. Will Harris get the "Christy" treatment or will this all be shoved under the rug and quickly forgotten come the run up to the Senate election? Where I a betting man, it'd be at least a few C notes on the latter.

Mornin' Ockham. :2wave: They even said they had jurisdiction in Mexico. LA Detectives think there are others involved. They ran Security Companies too.

Busted not only with police equipment.....but even squad cars.
 
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Unreal, the Masonic Fraternal Police Dept. :roll: ....these people were running around in California and telling people they are the First Police Dept in the World. That they go back to the Knights Templar. That they have SOVEREIGN Jurisdiction in 33 States. They were actually sending Letters out to Police Chiefs and communicating with them. What say ye?



An aide to California Attorney General Kamala Harris and two others claiming to be part of the "Masonic Fraternal Police Department" and descendants of the Knights Templar were arrested last week on suspicion of impersonating police officers. Brandon Kiel, the deputy director of community affairs at the California Department of Justice, has been placed on administrative leave according to The Los Angeles Times. Two others, David Henry and Tonette Hayes, were also placed in custody.

According to the Times, law enforcement officials first noticed something was amiss when several police chiefs in Southern California received a letter earlier this year that announced leadership positions for the group, which traces its origins to the mysterious medieval order known as the Knights Templar. The group claims it has sovereign jurisdiction in 33 states and Mexico, and that it has operated for thousands of years.....snip~

Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Years Old



It's California.


She'll probably run for president as the "first black woman" and win
 
Re: Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Yrs

It's California.


She'll probably run for president as the "first black woman" and win


Its like Ockham was saying.....some think she would take Boxer's Seat. They have placed her Aide on Administrative leave.
 
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Mornin' Ockham. :2wave: They even said they had jurisdiction in Mexico. LA Detectives think there are others involved. They ran Security Companies too.

Busted not only with police equipment.....but even squad cars.
I didn't see any mention of squad cars.
 
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Its like Ockham was saying.....some think she would take Boxer's Seat. They have placed her Aide on Administrative leave.


I have no idea who those people are and hopefully will never have to. I am safe in Canada where the freak show is entertainment not government.



This is another indication of the destruction by erosion of the moral fabric of America. An aid to a governor thinks she can organize a private police force, and walk away. The left has lost sight of the very concepts on which it is founded and has adopted a gang mentality, giving themselves some form of irrational status by claiming to be 300 years old. As if Mason's would give them lunch.

Based on Obama's success, Hillary evading any real scrutiny, Lerner walking free, I suspect this black bimbo will become a hero of the left.

I don't know about you, but this scares the hell out of me, makes me want to close the ****ing border and build a 100 foot wall with machine guns and mustard gas.
 
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I have no idea who those people are and hopefully will never have to. I am safe in Canada where the freak show is entertainment not government.



This is another indication of the destruction by erosion of the moral fabric of America. An aid to a governor thinks she can organize a private police force, and walk away. The left has lost sight of the very concepts on which it is founded and has adopted a gang mentality, giving themselves some form of irrational status by claiming to be 300 years old. As if Mason's would give them lunch.

Based on Obama's success, Hillary evading any real scrutiny, Lerner walking free, I suspect this black bimbo will become a hero of the left.

I don't know about you, but this scares the hell out of me, makes me want to close the ****ing border and build a 100 foot wall with machine guns and mustard gas.

are you really scared, or are you just saying that? I mean, really? this scares you? just seems like a bizarre story about some crazy people.
 
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are you really scared, or are you just saying that? I mean, really? this scares you? just seems like a bizarre story about some crazy people.

That California government would allow this to happen - yeah scary. Who funded this fake police force? Who equipped them? Follow the money.... anyone with a sense of history knows something like this unchecked starts looking like early 20th century fascist Europe's beginnings. Anyone not a little frightened at this is either ignorant or just as bizarre as those involved.
 
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here's a pretty good comment from the website that sums up what I think of this:

"Way to pin Kamela Harris to a story that has basically NOTHING to do with her. What's next: Citizen in Barack Obama's country kills puppy."
 
Re: Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Yrs

That California government would allow this to happen - yeah scary. Who funded this fake police force? Who equipped them? Follow the money.... anyone with a sense of history knows something like this unchecked starts looking like early 20th century fascist Europe's beginnings. Anyone not a little frightened at this is either ignorant or just as bizarre as those involved.

except they didn't let it happen...they put a stop to it once they found out about it.
 
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except they didn't let it happen...they put a stop to it once they found out about it.

But they did let it happen - this wasn't a conspiracy to create such a police force was it? Maybe I'm misunderstanding....

huffington post said:
“I always see them with their uniforms, so I thought they were part of any department, I didn’t know it was a fake one,” she said.

Let's find out some more information - if this was some conspiracy and these people bought their own equipment, uniforms, etc., and simply created this fictitious organization that's one thing - if money is tied to the Democrats in California like Harris, that's another entirely.
 
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Unreal, the Masonic Fraternal Police Dept. :roll: ....these people were running around in California and telling people they are the First Police Dept in the World. That they go back to the Knights Templar. That they have SOVEREIGN Jurisdiction in 33 States. They were actually sending Letters out to Police Chiefs and communicating with them. What say ye?





An aide to California Attorney General Kamala Harris and two others claiming to be part of the "Masonic Fraternal Police Department" and descendants of the Knights Templar were arrested last week on suspicion of impersonating police officers. Brandon Kiel, the deputy director of community affairs at the California Department of Justice, has been placed on administrative leave according to The Los Angeles Times. Two others, David Henry and Tonette Hayes, were also placed in custody.

According to the Times, law enforcement officials first noticed something was amiss when several police chiefs in Southern California received a letter earlier this year that announced leadership positions for the group, which traces its origins to the mysterious medieval order known as the Knights Templar. The group claims it has sovereign jurisdiction in 33 states and Mexico, and that it has operated for thousands of years.....snip~

Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Years Old

California is fun and their elected officials are even funner.
 
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California is fun and their elected officials are even funner.

I didn't coin the phrase "land of fruits and nuts," but judging some of the crazy stuff their legislature and governor come up with, it's difficult to argue that it's not a true descriptive, especially when you consider they were over $100 billion dollars in debt in 2013 - the last year the numbers were published, to my knowledge - and they're still adding millions to it every year! No wonder so many businesses are fleeing to more tax-friendly States - they see the handwriting on the wall! :shock:
 
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I didn't see any mention of squad cars.


AP says Law Enforcement like Vehicles.....doesn't say squads.


Deputies found ID cards, uniforms and law enforcement-like vehicles along with other official police equipment during their search of a home and office linked to the group, she said.....snip~

3 accused of operating fictitious police department
 
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But they did let it happen - this wasn't a conspiracy to create such a police force was it? Maybe I'm misunderstanding....



Let's find out some more information - if this was some conspiracy and these people bought their own equipment, uniforms, etc., and simply created this fictitious organization that's one thing - if money is tied to the Democrats in California like Harris, that's another entirely.

it sounds to me like they put a stop to it as soon as they found out about it and will be making more arrests. ask yourself what's most likely here: crazy people acting crazy? or some big conspiracy to create a secret police force that has a weird website full of grammatical errors which then sends out letters to real police departments alerting them to their existence and setting up meetings?

seriously, if it's a conspiracy, they must not have been trying very hard.
 
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California is fun and their elected officials are even funner.

Mornin TB.
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I had a reeeeeeaaaal good time, when I was living out there.
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Of course, I was quite young then.
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The investigation started after various police chiefs in California received a letter in late January that announced new leadership for the Masonic Fraternal Police Department. The Jan. 20 letter obtained by The Associated Press was copied to Harris. It was written by Kiel, identified as its chief board of director, and Hayes, the grand chief director, and includes a badge emblem with Henry's name below.

In the letter, the group claims it is registered with the state and is informing the chief it will be working with "Grandmasters, as well as fraternities and sororities throughout Sovereign Jurisdictions around the country." The letter claims there are 5,686 lodges and that the department "will be able to acquire intel that is not accessible to non-fraternal entities." It said one aim of the department was to restore public trust......snip~

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Isnt that funny how the AP knew in Jan, that they had a copy that was made out to Harris? That must tick off some California Repubs out there, huh?
 
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Unreal, the Masonic Fraternal Police Dept. :roll: ....these people were running around in California and telling people they are the First Police Dept in the World. That they go back to the Knights Templar. That they have SOVEREIGN Jurisdiction in 33 States. They were actually sending Letters out to Police Chiefs and communicating with them. What say ye?





An aide to California Attorney General Kamala Harris and two others claiming to be part of the "Masonic Fraternal Police Department" and descendants of the Knights Templar were arrested last week on suspicion of impersonating police officers. Brandon Kiel, the deputy director of community affairs at the California Department of Justice, has been placed on administrative leave according to The Los Angeles Times. Two others, David Henry and Tonette Hayes, were also placed in custody.

According to the Times, law enforcement officials first noticed something was amiss when several police chiefs in Southern California received a letter earlier this year that announced leadership positions for the group, which traces its origins to the mysterious medieval order known as the Knights Templar. The group claims it has sovereign jurisdiction in 33 states and Mexico, and that it has operated for thousands of years.....snip~

Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Years Old

That's hilarious. Why don't they have jurisdiction in the other seventeen states?
 
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it sounds to me like they put a stop to it as soon as they found out about it and will be making more arrests. ask yourself what's most likely here: crazy people acting crazy? or some big conspiracy to create a secret police force that has a weird website full of grammatical errors which then sends out letters to real police departments alerting them to their existence and setting up meetings?

seriously, if it's a conspiracy, they must not have been trying very hard.

Ok, let's peel back the onion a bit. What's most likely is that these people acted on their own - however, there are a few items contrary to that notion. First - this group walked around in public with uniforms. Second, this group had a website - certainly not a move one would use if they wished to keep their endeavors a secret - so they must have had no issue with being publicly seen for what they were attempting to be - a separate police force. From their own website:

About | Masonic Fraternal Police Department

From the LA Times article:

LA Times said:
Employees at the Backwoods Inn restaurant in Santa Clarita remember a day about a month ago when Henry — a regular customer — walked in with a swagger.

He wore a dark blue police uniform with badges and insignia on both arms. He told the staff at the country western-themed eatery off the Sierra Highway he was a police chief and handed out his business card with pride.

It read MASONIC FRATERNAL POLICE DEPARTMENT in capital letters and identified Henry as Chief Henry 33

“He was very big on saying ‘I'm the chief, I'm the chief,'” said one server who talked to him when he stopped by two or three times a week. She spoke on the condition that her name not be used.

“He carried himself like a cop, his uniform was spot on to a regular cop uniform, we all thought he was a legit cop,” said a chef at the restaurant. Henry regularly brought in his children.

Employees said Henry told them the department had set up offices in a strip mall next to a storefront church in Santa Clarita.

Church members said they didn't talk to their neighbors but said they saw a few men come and go dressed in sharp suits. They drove a black Lincoln town car with no license plates.

“We thought they were a security company,” said one church member.

Who paid for the towncars? No where in the article did it state these people were armed as legitimate police normally are via empowerment by the government (as well no firearms charges were filed by the prosecutors office). Hell, these guys even went into the LA County Sheriff's office, dressed in their uniforms that they were setting up shop in the area. Lastly, Masons come from all walks of life but, many are found in government and while masons have a very robust history with the US founding fathers - nothing much has changed since then. I'm not willing to dismiss a conspiracy since, in the public's eye "Masons" and "conspiracy" are linked in historical and popular culture.
 
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Ok, let's peel back the onion a bit. What's most likely is that these people acted on their own - however, there are a few items contrary to that notion. First - this group walked around in public with uniforms. Second, this group had a website - certainly not a move one would use if they wished to keep their endeavors a secret - so they must have had no issue with being publicly seen for what they were attempting to be - a separate police force. From their own website:

About | Masonic Fraternal Police Department

From the LA Times article:



Who paid for the towncars? No where in the article did it state these people were armed as legitimate police normally are via empowerment by the government (as well no firearms charges were filed by the prosecutors office). Hell, these guys even went into the LA County Sheriff's office, dressed in their uniforms that they were setting up shop in the area. Lastly, Masons come from all walks of life but, many are found in government and while masons have a very robust history with the US founding fathers - nothing much has changed since then. I'm not willing to dismiss a conspiracy since, in the public's eye "Masons" and "conspiracy" are linked in historical and popular culture.

everything you say though points to the idea that they're just crazy people acting crazy. if there was some kind of financial support from the government, that would obviously be a scandal and they would have made efforts to keep it secret. these people seem to have thought they were legitimate police which is why they made a crazy website and tried to schedule meetings with real police.

and who paid for the towncars? they all have jobs right? could they not have purchased them on their own?
 
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That's hilarious. Why don't they have jurisdiction in the other seventeen states?

Dunno.
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They said they had jurisdiction in Mexico too.

I figure well why not Canada as well.
 
Re: Kamala Harris Aide Accused Of Running Rogue Police Force Claiming To Be 3,000 Yrs

Ok, let's peel back the onion a bit. What's most likely is that these people acted on their own - however, there are a few items contrary to that notion. First - this group walked around in public with uniforms. Second, this group had a website - certainly not a move one would use if they wished to keep their endeavors a secret - so they must have had no issue with being publicly seen for what they were attempting to be - a separate police force. From their own website:

About | Masonic Fraternal Police Department

From the LA Times article:



Who paid for the towncars? No where in the article did it state these people were armed as legitimate police normally are via empowerment by the government (as well no firearms charges were filed by the prosecutors office). Hell, these guys even went into the LA County Sheriff's office, dressed in their uniforms that they were setting up shop in the area. Lastly, Masons come from all walks of life but, many are found in government and while masons have a very robust history with the US founding fathers - nothing much has changed since then. I'm not willing to dismiss a conspiracy since, in the public's eye "Masons" and "conspiracy" are linked in historical and popular culture.



Even better was this bit Ockham. ;)




A man claiming to be Kiel and describing himself as chief deputy director of the police force later followed up with various law enforcement agencies to schedule sit-down meetings, officials said. Capt. Roosevelt Johnson of the sheriff's department's Santa Clarita Valley station said he met with members of the Masonic Fraternal Police Department on Feb. 4.

Henry and Hayes showed up in black jumpsuits with Masonic Fraternal Police patches and stars on their collars. Hayes had a handgun on her utility belt, Johnson said.

Kiel was there too, wearing a dark navy business suit. They told Johnson they were opening a new Canyon Country police station."Brandon Kiel gave me a business card from the Department of Justice, showing he worked out of Kamala Harris' office," Johnson said. "That really raised red flags for me.".....snip~

3 accused of operating fictitious police department
 
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Just when I narrow-down my crazy state award to deciding between FL & TX, CA comes roaring back to prove they won't relinquish contention!
 
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here's a pretty good comment from the website that sums up what I think of this:

"Way to pin Kamela Harris to a story that has basically NOTHING to do with her. What's next: Citizen in Barack Obama's country kills puppy."

Because clearly, one of likely a few dozen employees is equivilent to one of a few million people.
 
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