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Bernie Sanders Raises $3 Million In Four Days

Anomalism said:
The powers that be don't want the system to be fair or easy.
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only when there is significant public pressure and they feel like their asses are on the line. but the concrete always sets back into the same old **** as soon as the shouting stops.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I would imagine if he has leftover money he will give it to a charity. He can either give it to a political party or a charity, but him being really an "Independent" I cannot imagine him donating leftover cash back to the party. But we will have to see. But, hey if your point is "well he talks about helping working class and poor people, he should just start a charity and not run for office!", is kind of silly. Every single candidate is going to say that message, so essentially you can say that to any candidate running. Every candidate is going to say we need to give back the opportunity or to assist people in income mobility, what they differ is how to exactly to do that and the policies that will ensure this.
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But only one of them is an actual socialist.
 
I would do anything to have:

- One National Election Day

- Mandatory Election Financing (only)

Like George Washinton warned, I'd like to ban political parties too - but the above two items would fix most of what's wrong, I think.
 
Chomsky said:
I would do anything to have:

- One National Election Day

- Mandatory Election Financing (only)

Like George Washinton warned, I'd like to ban political parties too - but the above two items would fix most of what's wrong, I think.
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How would we mindlessly vote for labels without political parties?
 
Anomalism said:
How would we mindlessly vote for labels without political parties?
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Instead of Democrat or Republican, perhaps we could refer to them as 'our fellow American'! :shock:
 
Chomsky said:
Instead of Democrat or Republican, perhaps we could refer to them as 'our fellow American'! :shock:
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That would require people to think for themselves; we can't have that.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Ummmm.. No. If anything it will push Hillary to the left. Primary elections are about appealing to the die hard party members AKA "the base". Many in "the base" are usually the most ideological. This is where in the Democratic Party you will find progressives and die hard liberals. This is where in the Republican party will find the most conservative and far right wing elements of the Republican Party. These are the people that mainly vote in primary elections, these are the overwhelming majority that vote in primaries. Its not "moderates" or "centrists", its usually the most ideological elements of the parties. That is why during Primary season you see that their rhetoric and message is more progressive/liberal leaning for Dems, and more conservative/tea party-esque leaning for the Republicans. Then during the general election what do you see, the candidates appealing more to the center, more moderate. If anything Bernie running is going to push Hillary more left, and more of a liberal populist message.
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My bad I meant to the left.
 
jmotivator said:
It doesn't. He just has millions of dollars that he plans to blow on a worthless campaign instead of on the poor. I guess fellow travelers of Bernie just wouldn't donate in those large dollar amounts if it was just to help poor people.
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Capitalism is bad....unless it helps you gain power. Then it's swell.

Donating to the poor is a necessary tenet for the left....except when they need the money for their own advancement.

The irony of this thread is off the charts.
 
Chomsky said:
I would do anything to have:

- One National Election Day

- Mandatory Election Financing (only)

Like George Washinton warned, I'd like to ban political parties too - but the above two items would fix most of what's wrong, I think.
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Violence is not a valid option for advocating those things.
 
The sellout could just save a lot of money by not running in the primaries. He could just skip to the general and not have to join a party of which is he is not part. I'm not clear that he has even joined the Democrat party, so why should they support him?
 
tres borrachos said:
Capitalism is bad....unless it helps you gain power. Then it's swell.

Donating to the poor is a necessary tenet for the left....except when they need the money for their own advancement.

The irony of this thread is off the charts.
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As a social worker working with a lot of people even further to the left than I was at the time I got the distinct impression that they embraced big government because in their mind it excused them from having to be charitable.
 
jmotivator said:
It was already ironic to see the cheering of a socialist's ability to amass wealth.
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Like Warren Buffet? Link George Soros? Like Bill Gates? :roll:

Being of socialist mind that not mean one does not have the ability or inclination to amass wealth.
 
US Conservative said:
Perhaps this is another tactic of the left to push the far and away front runner-Hillary more to the right, as with Elizabeth Warren.
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It's not a tactic. It's what leftists want. They want government to represent them, not Wall Street. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
 
AliHajiSheik said:
The sellout could just save a lot of money by not running in the primaries. He could just skip to the general and not have to join a party of which is he is not part. I'm not clear that he has even joined the Democrat party, so why should they support him?
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Ask Ron Paul why he joined the Republicans.
 
US Conservative said:
Perhaps this is another tactic of the left to push the far and away front runner-Hillary more to the right, as with Elizabeth Warren.
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Are you kidding? A real push behind Sanders would push Hillary to the left.
 
Kobie said:
Ask Ron Paul why he joined the Republicans.
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What does that have to do with his post? Rand Paul is a Republican as a Senator. Sanders is an Independent as a Senator and claims no party affiliation.
 
jmotivator said:
It doesn't. He just has millions of dollars that he plans to blow on a worthless campaign instead of on the poor. I guess fellow travelers of Bernie just wouldn't donate in those large dollar amounts if it was just to help poor people.
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Don't be soooo ****ing dramatic. :roll: It's like accusing someone of not believing in Climate Change because they heat their homes. Utterly retarded.

Bernie cares about the welfare of the middle class and regular apple pie Americans who've been beat over their collective heads even since Reaganomics. In order for him to even have a remote chance to win, he needs money. He's got to do what he's got to do.
 
Middleground said:
Like Warren Buffet? Link George Soros? Like Bill Gates? :roll:

Being of socialist mind that not mean one does not have the ability or inclination to amass wealth.
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Do you honestly think any of those men are actually socialists?
 
Kobie said:
Ask Ron Paul why he joined the Republicans.
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Which has nothing to do what anything I wrote. From what I read, Paul was a Republican most of his career and only went Independent a few years to run for President in the 80's. Bernie has always been an Independent.

Care to answer my question or do you have other off topic suggestions to make?
 
tres borrachos said:
What does that have to do with his post? Rand Paul is a Republican as a Senator. Sanders is an Independent as a Senator and claims no party affiliation.
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RON PAUL. Not Rand.

Ron Paul left the Republican party in 1987 and didn't rejoin it until 1998, specifically because it would help keep him in office. Ali asked "why doesn't Sanders run as an independent"? Well, Paul could have too, and he didn't, and neither will Sanders, because neither one is an idiot. They both knew that being a party contender, even an outside one, gave them far more access to funds and audience than running as an independent ever could.
 
tres borrachos said:
Capitalism is bad....unless it helps you gain power. Then it's swell.

Donating to the poor is a necessary tenet for the left....except when they need the money for their own advancement.

The irony of this thread is off the charts.
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Prove to me that Sanders hates Capitalism.

Ready, set, go...
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Which has nothing to do what anything I wrote. From what I read, Paul was a Republican most of his career and only went Independent a few years to run for President in the 80's. Bernie has always been an Independent.

Care to answer my question or do you have other off topic suggestions to make?
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See post 48.
 
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