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Shot NYPD cop dies

Chomsky said:
Well!

I can't tell you how relieved I am to find that you fine gentleman understand the motivations of my father & grandparents, in knowing they "mostly work hard"!

Perhaps if my relatives 'work even harder', we can aspire to be such class-acts as yourselves!
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Want to explain all that?
 
j-mac said:
Will there be crowds in the street brandishing signs that say "All Lives Matter"? Will Sharpton be speaking out against the actions of this black criminal that killed Officer Moore? Will there be a DOJ investigation into the rights of this officer's rights being violated?





How long in this thread before someone stands up for the criminal in this story? I mean long arrest record, and appeared to have a gun in his waistband? I mean, "No probable cause" right? To these people that argue this crap, the officer 'got what he deserved' right? Disgusting....

And third officer killing in six months? But it's not a dangerous job though...:roll:
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Do you understand the purpose of protesting?

What exactly would you be protesting here?

Who would be your target? Criminals?
 
rcart76 said:
Do you understand the purpose of protesting?

What exactly would you be protesting here?

Who would be your target? Criminals?
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I sort of wondered about that too given how fractious he becomes about any discussion of the method of his killing.
 
j-mac said:
You're not? Will there be riots? My guess is NO....Do you know why?
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What would someone be protesting? Or rioting over?
 
j-mac said:
forgive me if I take not that your argument sounds an awful lot like the "Blacks can't be racist" memes....How do you know Justice will be served? What if he gets off on a technicality? Think that doesn't happen?

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Because they have the person and none of those other things is more than fantasy speculation invented to try and rationally make an irrational point?


Just how far do you *need* to go to try and make this point? Complete fabrication? That indicates a very weak position.

No one seems to be trying to justify the suspect's actions at all.
 
Lursa said:
What would someone be protesting? Or rioting over?
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That's what I'm honestly asking them. Majority of the people are on the side of the cop and the guy that shot him was taken in custody immediately. So what is the need of a protest?


It would be like going to a Klan's meeting protesting against desegregation.
 
Any comment from Extortionist Al? Or is he busy trying to stir **** up somewhere?
 
j-mac said:
yeah, he'll probably get his own Mumia like following, then he can write education propaganda for our future children....
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If Obama had a son, he'd look like Demetrius Blackwell
 
j-mac said:
Will there be crowds in the street brandishing signs that say "All Lives Matter"? Will Sharpton be speaking out against the actions of this black criminal that killed Officer Moore? Will there be a DOJ investigation into the rights of this officer's rights being violated?
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Of course not because these liberal asshats don't think all lives matter. They're probably celebrating the death of Moore by going out and looting a store or something.
 
Lursa said:
What would someone be protesting? Or rioting over?
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- Taking of a human life without just cause. Protest to show senseless killings need to stop.

- I see no reason to riot. All riots do is hurt innocent people.


Hope your not one that believes the killing of this LEO was justified.
 
flogger said:
Some immigrants are net contributers to our country and some are not. I'm sure you have similar issues over there. This thread has nothing to do with immigration
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You're knee deep in the Arab Spring, and we're here trying to incarcerate our police departments.

I'm fascinated by all things British, and I hate what is happening to your culture and heritage.
 
Erod said:
You're knee deep in the Arab Spring, and we're here trying to incarcerate our police departments.
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Arab spring ? I think you've got the wrong continent there

I'm fascinated by all things British, and I hate what is happening to your culture and heritage.
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My culture and heritage are just fine.

Given per capita the US locks up six times as many of its citizenry and yet still has murder rates five times that of ours puts you in a poor position to go criticizing alleged declines in other cultures
 
flogger said:
Arab spring ? I think you've got the wrong continent there



My culture and heritage are just fine.

Given per capita the US locks up six times as many of its citizenry and yet still has murder rates five times that of ours puts you in a poor position to go criticizing alleged declines in other cultures
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The problems you speak of in the US are intensely concentrated. The overwhelming majority of Americans are not impacted by the outrageous statistics of a few.

A division of our company is based in Sheffield, and the guys I know tell me how sad they are to see what is happening to England in many sectors of your country. I can't speak to it myself, although I am a big Arsenal fan!
 
Erod said:
The problems you speak of in the US are intensely concentrated. The overwhelming majority of Americans are not impacted by the outrageous statistics of a few.
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What makes you think thats unique to the US ?

A division of our company is based in Sheffield, and the guys I know tell me how sad they are to see what is happening to England in many sectors of your country.
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The reality is nothing of the sort despite what I know you'd like to believe. The relative murder and incarceration figures I mentioned earlier rather speak for themselves. Its your society that has far deeper issues than ours

PS. I visit the US regularly and over the years have witnessed the alarming rise in levels of destitution even in nominally affluent cities like San Francisco. Your solution just seems to be locking up ever more desperate citizens in ever greater numbers sadly. :(
 
tres borrachos said:
Don't use the death of an innocent man to advance your goddam anti-gun agenda.
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I didn't see you criticizing j-mac using the death of an innocent man to have another ****ing Sharpton jackoff fest.
 
Kobie said:
I didn't see you criticizing j-mac using the death of an innocent man to have another ****ing Sharpton jackoff fest.
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Are you mad at me because I told Flogger not to go off on his usual anti-gun posts?
 
tres borrachos said:
Are you mad at me because I told Flogger not to go off on his usual anti-gun posts?
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No, I just noticed the double standard is all. Either using a dead guy to push an agenda is OK, or it's not.
 
Kobie said:
No, I just noticed the double standard is all. Either using a dead guy to push an agenda is OK, or it's not.
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Anything to contribute about the subject of the thread, Kobie? Or are you just here to wag your finger?
 
tres borrachos said:
Anything to contribute about the subject of the thread, Kobie? Or are you just here to wag your finger?
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It's terrible that the cop died, and using his death to promote an agenda is a dick move. Happy?
 
flogger said:
OK then lets look at it from the perspective of police officers killed in the line of duty. Last year the US had 126 officer deaths and the UK had nil. What do you think is the major factor accounting for such a disparity ?
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But if gun ownership rates (legal or otherwise) were the key factor here one would expect to see more of a correlation. For example, Switzerland, where gun ownership is compulsory for men of conscriptable age, would (according to your logic) have a higher rate of officers being shot then the United States. On the contrary most common form of gun related death in Switzerland is wives killing abusive husbands with their own guns, and i cant say i will lose any sleep over that.

The real issue in the U.S is social inequality.
 
mike2810 said:
- Taking of a human life without just cause. Protest to show senseless killings need to stop.

- I see no reason to riot. All riots do is hurt innocent people.


Hope your not one that believes the killing of this LEO was justified.
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Good Lord people would be protesting in the streets constantly. That's not why people have been protesting in the recent cop/suspect killings and abuse cases.

And of course I dont believe it was justified.
 
j-mac said:
Will there be crowds in the street brandishing signs that say "All Lives Matter"? Will Sharpton be speaking out against the actions of this black criminal that killed Officer Moore? Will there be a DOJ investigation into the rights of this officer's rights being violated?





How long in this thread before someone stands up for the criminal in this story? I mean long arrest record, and appeared to have a gun in his waistband? I mean, "No probable cause" right? To these people that argue this crap, the officer 'got what he deserved' right? Disgusting....

And third officer killing in six months? But it's not a dangerous job though...:roll:
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Its a tragedy when any American dies at the fate of violence whether its a cop killing a civilian or a civilian killing a cop.
 
flogger said:
Undoubtedly had the criminal not found it so easy to access a firearm in the first place this officer would still be alive today :(
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I see you mention no reason to blame or hold the criminal accountable. Let me guess, you're a liberal?
 
j-mac said:
You're not? Will there be riots? My guess is NO....Do you know why?
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No one disputes what the suspect in this case was wrong. No one doubts that he will and should be found guilty and pay for his crime. Anyone with an ounce of decency thinks the officer deserved to be killed just because he was a cop.

The fact that you can conflate what happened to the officer in your post and someone like Scott Walker, Levar Jones and Amadou Diallo (see below) only demonstrates you really don't understand what most people are upset about. Yes there are those at the extremes whose demands are unreasonable, but it seems simple why people are upset, example below:

This man who reached for his wallet while sitting in front of his apartment and was shot at 41 times and hit 19 times and was killed becaue somone thought he had a gun. The 4 officers involved were all acquitted. There is the outrage.
 
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