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Nor would the vast majority want to

most sheep like living in pens. They don't know freedom
 

I was waiting for you to miss what that document you cited actually said. They have a pistol coach, they have pistol athletes BUT they cannot train in england with firearm pistols. Only a few elite athletes are given an exemption to shot real pistols in England You need to read stuff before you post it

http://britishshooting.org.uk/uploads/documents/BS_ISSF_Pistol_Selection_Policy_2013_-_2016_v15.pdf

2.2.4. 25m Cartridge Pistol Trials Matches Due to the restrictions of the firearms
legislation, it is not possible to hold domestic open matches in the 25m cartridge pistol events (25m Pistol, 25m Rapid Fire Pistol, 25m Standard Pistol and 25m Centrefire Pistol). For these events, the British Shooting Head Pistol Coach will arrange up to a maximum of 8 trials matches to be held at training camps in Great Britain (if possible) and abroad. Trials matches will be notified to likely participants in advance. Any 25m cartridge pistol events shot as part of a British Pistol Club meeting or in conjunction with any of the matches listed above for air pistol will be considered for selection purposes


The Home Office has agreed to grant a limited number of Section 5authorities to give elite athletes the opportunity to train towards the 2014 CommonwealthGames with cartridge pistols in England and Wales. The Scottish Office has also agreed togive the same opportunity to Scottish athletes. British Shooting will administer the Section5 application process by forming a Section 5 Cartridge Pistol Squad for athletes seekingselection to represent England or Wales. STF will administer the section 5 process for allathletes wishing to represent Scotland and this will be detailed in a separate document.
 
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So because we can't kill or be killed more easily we aren't free ?? :lamo

no, because you cannot own a pistol because your nanny government doesn't trust you to own one, you aren't free
 
no, because you cannot own a pistol because your nanny government doesn't trust you to own one, you aren't free

You have some weird perceptions about what represents freedom. Do you think everyone outside the US is living in oppression pining after firearms so that they can shoot their democratically elected governments ?
 
You have some weird perceptions about what represents freedom. Do you think everyone outside the US is living in oppression pining after firearms so that they can shoot their democratically elected governments ?

Actually intelligent people own pistols for lots of reasons including competition which millions find enjoyable Most of us who own them don't wet ourselves in fear that someone else might want to own one either. You have a rather strange view as to why most Americans who own handguns do.
 
Actually intelligent people own pistols for lots of reasons including competition which millions find enjoyable Most of us who own them don't wet ourselves in fear that someone else might want to own one either. You have a rather strange view as to why most Americans who own handguns do.

Looking at your firearms stats most 'intelligent people' wouldn't choose to have a firearm anywhere near them nor their families. I very much doubt its for target shooting :lol:
 
Looking at your firearms stats most 'intelligent people' wouldn't choose to have a firearm anywhere near them nor their families. I very much doubt its for target shooting :lol:

UNDERSTANDING OUR STATS

if you aren't an inner city drug dealer living in a Democrat run city, you don't have much to worry about

why do Europeans spend so much time pissing and moaning about American gun rights?
 
Tell that to the relatives of the police officer in the OP

that was a felon who already violated several laws

do you HONESTLY think someone who is willing to face the ramifications of killing a police officer is going to be deterred by a gun law?

that is the sort of idiocy the anti gun types spew

yeah a capital murder sentence won't stop a cop killer but a gun law will

oh and if you think a gun law is going to prevent a guy who already commits a federal felony (average sentence 11 years) for merely touching a gun from having one, then why hasn't the total bans on crack and heroin stopped that.

not much logic when it comes to the gun banning faction as they pretend criminals who are willing to kill cops will be disarmed
 
UNDERSTANDING OUR STATS

if you aren't an inner city drug dealer living in a Democrat run city, you don't have much to worry about

why do Europeans spend so much time pissing and moaning about American gun rights?
European governments don't trust the people living under them and they don;t trust each other either.

Only the wacky wacky, gun mad Swiss. whose laws most Europeans ignore, are allowed to own guns and the crime rate there is minimal. Switzerland doesn't even make the top 10 in Europe. The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Daily Mail Online
 
that was a felon who already violated several laws
Yet he was able to easily aquire a gun nonetheless

do you HONESTLY think someone who is willing to face the ramifications of killing a police officer is going to be deterred by a gun law?

We haven't had a police officer shot and killed for years because our felons find it much harder to get a gun

that is the sort of idiocy the anti gun types spew
The comparative national figures speak for themselves. Only 'idiots' dismiss them out of hand

yeah a capital murder sentence won't stop a cop killer but a gun law will

So its a Dirty Harry thing with you then ?

oh and if you think a gun law is going to prevent a guy who already commits a federal felony (average sentence 11 years) for merely touching a gun from having one, then why hasn't the total bans on crack and heroin stopped that.
It has here for the most part

not much logic when it comes to the gun banning faction as they pretend criminals who are willing to kill cops will be disarmed

Where do you think your criminals got their guns in the first place ?
 
Yet he was able to easily aquire a gun nonetheless



We haven't had a police officer shot and killed for years because our felons find it much harder to get a gun


The comparative national figures speak for themselves. Only 'idiots' dismiss them out of hand



So its a Dirty Harry thing with you then ?


It has here for the most part



Where do you think your criminals got their guns in the first place ?

crack cocaine has never ever been legal in the USA and its easy to get

so what is your solution. I love hearing what foreigners want to do with our laws

Look, if you are afraid of owning a handgun (or more likely, afraid of other citizens owning them) that isn't my problem. But stop telling people who can handle them without having a loss of bodily functions that we shouldn't have them

oh BTW how many cops were being killed in England before the collective bed wetting after Dunblane?
 
crack cocaine has never ever been legal in the USA and its easy to get

so what is your solution. I love hearing what foreigners want to do with our laws

Guns may be akin to an addiction for you but, but not for others

Look, if you are afraid of owning a handgun (or more likely, afraid of other citizens owning them) that isn't my problem. But stop telling people who can handle them without having a loss of bodily functions that we shouldn't have them
By all means voluntarily endanger yourself as much as you like, I'm sure every gun owner who has lost a relative to the gun he kept at home allegedly for defence has said the same as you.

oh BTW how many cops were being killed in England before the collective bed wetting after Dunblane?

Cop killing in the UK is rare. Here is the historic list so check for yourself

List of British police officers killed in the line of duty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Looking at your firearms stats most 'intelligent people' wouldn't choose to have a firearm anywhere near them nor their families. I very much doubt its for target shooting :lol:

me thinks your a bit daft. Is it not true that approximately 39% of murders in England are done with a knife or some other sharp object? A little research shows England still has murder committed by firearms. While very low in numbers, the murderer still found a way to get a gun.

Should knives and sharp objects be banned in England? It is your main cause of death by murder.

I will use your logic then. Looking at your murder stats, most "INTELLIGENT PEOPLE" wouldn't choose to have a knife or sharp object anywhere near them or their families. Seems there are other uses for knives besides eating or preparing meals.:mrgreen:
 
me thinks your a bit daft. Is it not true that approximately 39% of murders in England are done with a knife or some other sharp object? A little research shows England still has murder committed by firearms. While very low in numbers, the murderer still found a way to get a gun.

Should knives and sharp objects be banned in England? It is your main cause of death by murder.

I will use your logic then. Looking at your murder stats, most "INTELLIGENT PEOPLE" wouldn't choose to have a knife or sharp object anywhere near them or their families. Seems there are other uses for knives besides eating or preparing meals.:mrgreen:

Guns make killing far too easy as your nations own grim statistics amply illustrate
 
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