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Carson, Fiorina announce 2016 presidential bids

By respectable, I mean she wasn't defeated in an overwhelming landslide. Despite starting with very little name recognition and very unfavorable voter registration numbers, she came within 10 points of defeating an incumbent Senator in her very first run for office.

What are you talking about. Boxer slaughtered her.
 
Wow,

8 Trillion in new debt, unprecedented Monetary Stimulus, 6 years of low interest rates and the best Obama can do is to barely manage 2 percent GDP.

Homeowner-ship rates have fallen every year since 2008 and are currently a 20 year low ( with 6 years of record low interest rates ) median house hold income still haven't reached 2007 levels yet and a LFPR falling to a 30 year low with Foodstamp use up 40 percent and the disability rates doubled.

Corporations are hoarding Trillions in Capital Banks are leaving Trlions in excess reserves sit at the FED rather than risk it in the economy. Investors would rather pile into a Stock market propped up with FED stimulus than invest in Obama's economy.

That last GDP report was pathetic. So, Obama's driven it into the ground and like I said the only one out therr with the potential to do any worse is Sanders.

there isn't 8 trillion in new debt, we can just start there.
 
10 points is pretty much a slaughter in politics. Sorry.

Not when one takes into consideration such factors as enrollment. In 2010, California's Democrats had a 13-point advantage over Republicans.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ror/ror-pages/15day-gen-10/hist-reg-stats.pdf

Against that measure, Fiorina over-performed. That she was a new candidate who never held political office and had to build statewide name recognition also is important. This was not a race between two experienced political leaders, but a long-serving Senator vs. a new candidate.
 
there isn't 8 trillion in new debt, we can just start there.

That's true. We went from 9 Trillion to 18 trillion under Obama. That's more like 9 trillion.
 
there isn't 8 trillion in new debt, we can just start there.


Yes we know. You libs like to start counting debt from Obama's first Budget.

Even though Obama signed 9 out of the 12 Spending appropriations bills in Bush's ( Pelosis FY2009 Budget )

So more dishonesty from the Democrats, well thats not unexpected.
 
That's true. We went from 9 Trillion to 18 trillion under Obama. That's more like 9 trillion.

as of January of this year... the national debt has increased 7.4 trillion since Obama took office.

by CBO predictions on spending, released in januaury this year, we're looking at a touch over 9 trillion in added debt by the end of Obama's terms
 
as of January of this year... the national debt has increased 7.4 trillion since Obama took office.

by CBO predictions on spending, released in januaury this year, we're looking at a touch over 9 trillion in added debt by the end of Obama's terms

Anyway you want to describe it, it is truly horrible fiscal management. He wouldn't last long in business.
 
Not when one takes into consideration such factors as enrollment. In 2010, California's Democrats had a 13-point advantage over Republicans.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ror/ror-pages/15day-gen-10/hist-reg-stats.pdf

Against that measure, Fiorina over-performed. That she was a new candidate who never held political office and had to build statewide name recognition also is important. This was not a race between two experienced political leaders, but a long-serving Senator vs. a new candidate.

If you knew anything about California politics you wouldn't say that. Even a poor GOP candidate is going to get about 40% of the vote in California. On that level....she performed as expected.

Don't believe me....just look at the last Governor election in 2014. Kashkari got the requisite 40% Republican vote and still got trounced. The reality is....the GOP could put up a ham sandwich and they are going to get 40% of the vote.
 
looks like the GOP is gonna have to replace the clown car with a clown bus

And you have Hillary who would be riding in a Fiat except the sides aren't large enough to accomodate her and her money, and Bill. Too bad.
 
I believe both aree great candidates....Sadly they have very little chance of getting the nomination.

Fiorina has ZERO credentials. She has never held public office and was fired for incompetence at HP. What makes her a great candidate in your mind? Oh...wait....you don't need to answer...its obviously the (R). Carry on.
 
Fiorina has ZERO credentials. She has never held public office and was fired for incompetence at HP. What makes her a great candidate in your mind? Oh...wait....you don't need to answer...its obviously the (R). Carry on.

... oddly enough, that's the same reason you hate them both.

opposite sides of the same ****ty coin.
 
I like what Fiorina says. If I were a voter I might vote for her. She goes in third place in my Republican candidate list. But unfortunately, the party will probably offer up Bush as the nominee and the same old status quo grind will continue.
Bush as the nominee ??
Bush the youngest as the sacrificial lamb is more like it ..
 
Sounds like rightwing class warfare


You jelly?

Damn straight. You are a primary source. You don't voice your own opinions. You just post the facts, Jack. Hillary could move up to first class if she just acted like a first class person.
 
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