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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

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One also reaps what one sows.
Had those two Muslims read that they may have been living and productive members of society today.
 
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Had those two Muslims read that they may have been living and productive members of society today.

Hate, stupidity, or ignorance - no matter.

Sadly, there will be more.

If the results continue to springboard from this incident, maybe they will just piss off and go elsewhere.
 
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And the majority of Muslims would say that ISIS and AQ are not true Muslims. And both they and you would be commiting the No True Scotsman fallacy.

The fact remains, they do it in the name of their religions, whether you agree with their interpretation or not.

But don't worry, I won't judge you or other Christians by their actions. That would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?

Yes it would, simply because I don't go out randomly and rape and kill under the authority of Jesus Christ. I don't know of any of Christians who do. And with all the defections toward radical Islam, by Muslims and others, (this guy in Az. was raised Christian and turned to radical Islam)..............it's very hard to tell the players w/o a program.

But they are true Muslims....they are typical of many Muslims worldwide. The stronger ones commit savagery, the weaker ones are preyed upon by the stronger ones.

I have slammed Obama and his predecessors for ignoring terrorism and attrocities in the less "strategic" parts of Africa, both Christian and Muslim in origin, many times. But our government, and I would say the majority of our population, just don't care about Africa.

I don't care about Africa...I admit it. When we have people in this country living in poverty...why not address that first? Bill Clinton was bragging yesterday, about all the good his foundation does in Africa.....why not take care of your fellow Americans...First? Same for Angelina Jolie and many others.

The LRA started by fighting an intertribal war and now is just roving the countryside killing, stealing and kidnapping to survive. There appears to be little in the way of Christian doctrine there. Most of their victims are Christian.

It doesn't look like the Eastern Lighting group has killed more than a dozen people; some of those killed are their own members.

Ahhhhh....the truth exposed. Careful LD...liberal douchebags will quiver and hide from the Truth!

Actions and words born of hatred are always wrong even when they are legal.

And sooooo many liberals mistake hate for just plain common sense or disgust! And then....turn around and display hate themselves.

I recall something about Bush and later Obama sending US troops to help chase Kony through the bush. It's hard to fight them (the LRA) because they operate in very remote areas that are difficult to travel through.

Bush sent a hundred million to help fight AIDS in Africa, and this aid has continued.

Then Obama sent troops to aid in the fight against Ebola.

Total US foreign aid to African countries is in the billions of dollars every year.

It seems to me that concern for Africa among Americans and in the American government is substancial and bipartisan.

And I always thought this was a big waste of money as much of it is siphoned off by criminals and corrupt officials.
 
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Hate, stupidity, or ignorance - no matter.

Sadly, there will be more.

If the results continue to springboard from this incident, maybe they will just piss off and go elsewhere.
Or learn to be more tolerant of other points of view.
 
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Sticking to the topic, on the surface seems like two nutjob criminals got themselves killed by trying to commit felonies and or harm others . . . . .

how do I feel about that?

good riddeance :shrug:

:thumbs::thumbs:

No one is "wrong" for exercising their right free speech, nor is it wrong to disagree by using your right to free speech in response. What is wrong is trying to murder other people for exercising their First Amendment rights.

You genuinely don't understand this?

That may be a logical conclusion.

Americans should be very grateful for their Second Amendment rights.

They should be, but so many aren't...namely liberals. And our rights are constantly under assault. The Bloomberg Group is doing their best to pour millions of dollars into anti-gun candidates.....they just succeeded in Oregon, yesterday.
 
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Heya Mickey. :2wave: Well I am not fond of to many coincydincys. That's for certain.

But then the US Military and its personnel. Do have constraints to deal with, don't they?

Texans know what has to be done when dealing with terrorists.

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Yes they do....and many of us Nationwide, do also!

May Vito Corelone long be remembered!;)
 
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The article doesn't say they were killed straight away at all, it says they've cordoned off the Walmart looking for him, I think. It's very poorly written.

By now, you have learned they were low-down terrorist scum, who got what they deserved.
 
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Nor have I in my travels. Nor have I met or known members of any faith who wanted me to see me dead because of my faith. In truth, however, there are people, radical extremists, crazies, and madmen who indeed might wish us dead in the names of their twisted believes. Some are Muslim and some are Christian.

On 9/12, 13, 14 my wife and I spent 3 nights in Muslim owned B&B in Geneva. They could not have been more accommodating and we were good guests.

I grew up very close to a major university. My school classmates were from many countries, some of my friends were Muslim. When I served in the military some of the men I served with were Muslim. When I went to college and grad school some of my classmates and a few of my friends were Muslim. Shall I go on? None of these people or there families or Muslim friends wanted me dead because of my faith. We did not hate nor antagonize each other over religious beliefs.

And that is a Good Thing. But, had you ever been put upon by any Muslims in all that time....you might have a different take on it.

The only hatred demonstrated was by those who were trying to kill innocent people, just like what happened at Charlie Hebdo. Free speech and free ideas are rights which should be demanded by every person born into this world and none of us should be intimidated by those who would remove them.

Absolutely!
 
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Yes, not all Muslims are terrorists. I doubt there is anyone in the world who doesn't understand this. The concern is for those who are, or who lean in that direction.

Exactly, and I sure would like to know how many learned folks here, can tell them apart.

Do you have any evidence to demonstrate who is or is not a "true Muslim'? Exactly. So how can anyone decide who is a true Muslim or not if they are both following the Koran? Why? If you willingly belong to a certain group you are going to be judged accordingly.

Amen to that!

One also reaps what one sows.

Man........................I sure wished that applied to the Clintons, Teddy Kennedy, Al Sharpton....... and obama!
 
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It doesn't say that in the article, but it's a very poorly written article. It also doesn't indicate that the were Muslims trying to make a point about the Muhammad exhibit. I'll wait for some decent reporting before I go jumping to conclusions.

Heaven forbid that the peaceful religion Muslims be accused of terrorism.
 
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One religious cult who will commit horrible acts to avenge such an offence... hence it is a freaking given that if you do that offence then there is a damn good chance that someone will get hurt.

That's my point though. The religious cult is doing the CAUSE. Not the cartoons.
 
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That is a load of hot, smoking bovine feces. I honestly do not understand why anyone here is defending either side. Two groups of bat **** crazy religious freaks up each other's hatred ante and some of you people are picking sides. Both sides were wrong and are wrong. Actions based in pure hatred should garner no sympathy or support from anyone.
I don't see anything wrong with holding a free speech event. Perhaps you're confused on that point regarding the event
 
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How can people get mad over a cartoon? That's silly. Religion is pretend anyways. I watch cartoons sometimes!

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Hate, stupidity, or ignorance - no matter.

Sadly, there will be more.

If the results continue to springboard from this incident, maybe they will just piss off and go elsewhere.

Maybe.


Or learn to be more tolerant of other points of view.

Yep.
Interesting how liberals are always spouting about tolerance of other points of view and then turn around and support these radical Muslims.....who Don't practice tolerance of anyone.

I don't see anything wrong with holding a free speech event. Perhaps you're confused on that point regarding the event

libs are often confused in their convoluted thinking.

I still think they need to erect a Strip Joint, that serves alcohol, with lots of photos, directly across from every Mosque!
 
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Nor have I in my travels. Nor have I met or known members of any faith who wanted me to see me dead because of my faith. In truth, however, there are people, radical extremists, crazies, and madmen who indeed might wish us dead in the names of their twisted believes. Some are Muslim and some are Christian..


The problem with this argument is there is maybe a thousand Christians in the world that want you dead for your beliefs while roughly 10% of Muslims, 120 million people, want you dead. The reason for the disparity is because followers of Christ act against the teachings of Jesus in behaving that way while Muslims are acting more like Mohammed when they kill infidels.
 
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It's kinda a dick move to host such an event

Yeah. That goddamn 1st amendment.


but the only acceptable response would be a protest outside the event, maybe some lawsuits or whatever...

Violence is not an acceptable response
We're dealing with yahoos who believe that the only "acceptable response" is through IEDs or automatic weapons, all in the name of a religion that's stuck in the Dark Ages.
 
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Maybe.




Yep.
Interesting how liberals are always spouting about tolerance of other points of view and then turn around and support these radical Muslims.....who Don't practice tolerance of anyone.



libs are often confused in their convoluted thinking.

I still think they need to erect a Strip Joint, that serves alcohol, with lots of photos, directly across from every Mosque!

Apparently to liberals we have free speech but we have to pay the consequences, like having someone try to shoot us
 
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Man........................I sure wished that applied to the Clintons, Teddy Kennedy, Al Sharpton....... and obama!

Anyone who does not understand that all politicians are lying morons is a fool - just don't be a fool!
 
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I can't be the only one amused that they tried to attack some people in Texas and we're both shot dead before they caused harm. It wasn't France. Our cops are armed to the teeth and so are the citizens.

They should take this into consideration: **** with us at your own risk.
 
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That's my point though. The religious cult is doing the CAUSE. Not the cartoons.

No the cause is the combination of the cartoons and the radical freaks who held the event. The cartoons would not be there if it had not been for the event and the even was only there because of this bitch and her followers wanting to provoke the radicals.
 
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Yes I think it's horrible and I'm glad it doesn't go on in my country. If you knew anything about my postsin the Europe section I am anything but a defender of Islam however I am also not defender of stupidity and hosting a "lets draw the prophet" party is right up there with sticking a fork into a live toaster.

YOUR country? Where is that?
 
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No the cause is the combination of the cartoons and the radical freaks who held the event. The cartoons would not be there if it had not been for the event and the even was only there because of this bitch and her followers wanting to provoke the radicals.

I agree. There is no room for that kind of provocation! I demand immediately that the Jon Stewart show , MSNBC , the Huffington Post and Bill Maher and other similar dopey liberal freaks immediateley cease operations because all they are doing is provoking the tea party.

( Hopefully that example will show you how ridiculous you sound)
 
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No the cause is the combination of the cartoons and the radical freaks who held the event. The cartoons would not be there if it had not been for the event and the even was only there because of this bitch and her followers wanting to provoke the radicals.

Suddenly free speech is a radical idea
 
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Two shot dead outside Muhammad Art Exhibit in Garland

This was at a facility in Garland, Texas, near Dallas.

I gather this was an exhibit of artwork that depicts Muhammad, a la Charlie Hebdo, in defiance of radical Muslims and in affirmation of freedom of speech.

Two guys drove up armed with guns and explosives, opened fire, and were killed straight away by return fire.

It's a bad idea to go gunning for any group of Texans without a lot of firepower.

I've no issue with the content of the post except that 'art' wasn't any part of the equation. Polemics, yes. Controversy, yes. Provocation, yes. Art? Absolutely not.

But that's fine. You don't have to be engaging in fine art to not be a target for intolerant bigotry. In fact, you can be engaging in intolerant bigotry (as were Geller/De Wilde et al) and still not merit murderous attention.
 
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No the cause is the combination of the cartoons and the radical freaks who held the event. The cartoons would not be there if it had not been for the event and the even was only there because of this bitch and her followers wanting to provoke the radicals.

So it's all Gellar's group's fault. :roll:
 
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