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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

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how many were running around?
Theirs is a made up one. Sorry if you didn't know that
 
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Theirs is a made up one. Sorry if you didn't know that

which 1 is not made up?
 
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There's a topic here folks. Let's stick to that as opposed to one posters attempt to threadjack this on the back of Godwin style logic
 
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They could be mutant aliens from Mars...its irrelevant. What he was doing is what people like him ALWAYS do....try to divert and shriek about THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! See post 518 for another example.

Honor killing in Houston? OK...but ...The Christians! 40 dead gay men swinging by their necks from bridges and construction cranes in IRan...but that CHRISTIANS!!! the CHRISTIANS!!! 3200 butchered children left in a field with their heads crushed by rocks, many of whom had been brutally raped while the rest were forced to watch...well...what about the Crusades and THE CHRISTIANS!!! the CHRISTIANS!!!

FLDS...Amish...Mennonite...Baptist...Im sure they all have their quirks. THEY didnt just send avowed jihadi mercenaries to kill people for daring to draw pictures.

"Honor killing" under growing scrutiny in the U.S. - CBS News

This seems to be a fine example of cognitive dissonance, an inability to accept the reality which is the world we live in. I have simply noted that there are those who call themselves Christian who demand that their women dress in an extremely conservative manner - it was not me who brought up conservative dress as another of those items to hold against Islam.

To point out the ways in which RADICAL Christians and Muslims agree on various social issues is not blaming Christianity as a whole, just those who hold the views and who force the women of their group to act and dress in certain ways. Far too many evidently believe that any criticism of their group, small as it may be within a larger society, is an attack upon the entire society even though the majority don't agree with the tenets of the minority.

I doubt it is possible for those living within the rigid confines of the True Believer community but I am NOT shrieking about THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! I am simply pointing at the utter hypocrisy of a tiny segment of those who call themselves Christian.

Just as there are 'Christian' preachers who call for the execution or imprisonment of gays, there are Christian ministers who happily perform wedding ceremonies for gays - Tell us, which is the TRUE Christian? There are Christian preachers flying around in private jets and owning multiple residences while others who call themselves Christian give up all they own and voluntarily live in poverty while helping the downtrodden - Tell us, which is the TRUE Christian?
 
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This seems to be a fine example of cognitive dissonance, an inability to accept the reality which is the world we live in. I have simply noted that there are those who call themselves Christian who demand that their women dress in an extremely conservative manner - it was not me who brought up conservative dress as another of those items to hold against Islam.

To point out the ways in which RADICAL Christians and Muslims agree on various social issues is not blaming Christianity as a whole, just those who hold the views and who force the women of their group to act and dress in certain ways. Far too many evidently believe that any criticism of their group, small as it may be within a larger society, is an attack upon the entire society even though the majority don't agree with the tenets of the minority.

I doubt it is possible for those living within the rigid confines of the True Believer community but I am NOT shrieking about THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! I am simply pointing at the utter hypocrisy of a tiny segment of those who call themselves Christian.

Just as there are 'Christian' preachers who call for the execution or imprisonment of gays, there are Christian ministers who happily perform wedding ceremonies for gays - Tell us, which is the TRUE Christian? There are Christian preachers flying around in private jets and owning multiple residences while others who call themselves Christian give up all they own and voluntarily live in poverty while helping the downtrodden - Tell us, which is the TRUE Christian?
Keep going. You just keep proving the point.

In a thread about Muslims attempting kill because someone drew cartoons, with comparisons on Muslims killing, yes, even their own children, for dressing too western, you STILL bleat on about 'THE CHRISTIANS!!! THE CHRISTIANS!!! Muslims butcher thousands for merely being non Muslim and people like you shriek But the CHRISTIANS!!! the CHRISTIANS!!! Hang gay men from a bridge and you jump in defense and scream but the CHRISTIANS!!! the CHRISTIANS...

sort of like you are STILL doing.

(I hope this isnt seen as thread hijacking. It IS the point. This thread is about Muslims that attempted to kill people over drawings. In response...people have suggested that we in this country really should jsut curtail our rights and freedoms and after all...if it wasnt for that Christian hate group holding the event none of this would have happened....and THATS where the train goes off the rails. The very SECOND this becomes a dialogue about ANYTHING other than Muslim extremism and the present danger it presents daily in the US, the likelihood of worsening events becomes more real.)
 
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This thread is about Muslims that attempted to kill people over drawings.

and my response - which evidently some fail to comprehend - It is actually about TWO specific radical Islamic idiots who thought they were carrying out jihad.

Apparently, Pam Geller is not alone in her closeted world of Islamophobia in which all Muslims are to be blamed for the actions of a minority. When I and others try to point out the fallacy of such a demented world view by noting there are a few who call themselves Christians who are just as insane - the only defence is to claim we are attacking ALL Christians.

from CNN
The American Freedom Defense Initiative said it specifically picked the venue for Sunday's event, a school district-owned facility, because it had hosted an event denouncing Islamophobia in January.

SoundVision, the organizers of the January "Stand with the Prophet" event, denounced Sunday's attackers and also criticized Geller's organization for "hate mongering."

"Unfortunately, some insane persons, however, decided to give hate-mongers the attention they desired with their violent act. ... Once again, a bad name for the community," SoundVision said on its website. "We, the people of faith, must counter the war-terror-hate cycle with peace-love-respect."
 
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and my response - which evidently some fail to comprehend - It is actually about TWO specific radical Islamic idiots who thought they were carrying out jihad.

Apparently, Pam Geller is not alone in her closeted world of Islamophobia in which all Muslims are to be blamed for the actions of a minority. When I and others try to point out the fallacy of such a demented world view by noting there are a few who call themselves Christians who are just as insane - the only defence is to claim we are attacking ALL Christians.

from CNN

Would you care to tell me which Christian organization is the equivalent of IS or Al Qaeda?
 
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and my response - which evidently some fail to comprehend - It is actually about TWO specific radical Islamic idiots who thought they were carrying out jihad.

Apparently, Pam Geller is not alone in her closeted world of Islamophobia in which all Muslims are to be blamed for the actions of a minority. When I and others try to point out the fallacy of such a demented world view by noting there are a few who call themselves Christians who are just as insane - the only defence is to claim we are attacking ALL Christians.

from CNN
This isnt about 2 lone Islamists. And of COURSE your immediate response to a Muslim extremist attack is to attack...who? Oh yeah....
 
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Would you care to tell me which Christian organization is the equivalent of IS or Al Qaeda?

The Lord's Resistance Army: "Kony initially stated that the LRA’s mission was to overthrow the government and rule Uganda based on the Ten Commandments."

Eastern Lightning:The name "Eastern Lightning" comes from the New Testament, Gospel of Matthew 24:27"
 
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Yes, it does. You can't have a war against a concept, and you don't defeat terror by using greater terror.

So enlighten me Andy who were we at war with?
 
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The Lord's Resistance Army: "Kony initially stated that the LRA’s mission was to overthrow the government and rule Uganda based on the Ten Commandments."

Eastern Lightning:The name "Eastern Lightning" comes from the New Testament, Gospel of Matthew 24:27"

That really explains a lot. Having to stretch to these kinds of ridiculous lengths is a bit pathetic. About as pathetic as Geller's stretch to try to encompass all of Islam as one great terrorist movement.
 
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The Lord's Resistance Army: "Kony initially stated that the LRA’s mission was to overthrow the government and rule Uganda based on the Ten Commandments." Eastern Lightning:The name "Eastern Lightning" comes from the New Testament, Gospel of Matthew 24:27"
And you feel these two groups few have heard of are the equivalent of ISIS and Al Qaeda???
 
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First- "Don't mess with Texas" means what it says.
Second- the two puss bags were killed by one cop with a pistol.
Third-where are the Muslims denouncing this potential slaughter of everyone in the building had there not been security?
Last- "Don't mess with Texas"
 
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CAIR's response to this is typical. In a statement, CAIR said: "We condemn yesterday's attack on an anti-Islam event in Garland, Texas, without reservation. "We also reiterate our view that violence in response to anti-Islam programs like the one in Garland is more insulting to our faith than any cartoon, however defamatory. Bigoted speech can never be an excuse for violence".

They never referred to a love of free speech, the free speech laws, Islamic attempts (often successful) to suppress free speech, or the First Amendment. Instead they focus on "anti_Islam", "bigoted speech" and hatreds against Muslims. CAIR Condemns Attack on Anti-Islam Event in Texas - CAIR
 
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And you feel these two groups few have heard of are the equivalent of ISIS and Al Qaeda???

Those groups she cited have murdered THOUSANDS. You don't hear about them as much because one, they are Christian, and two, they operate in places our government doesn't give a **** about.
 
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Well...lets see. People are saying that it is an expected 'consequence'....that one can expect such a response to an act of free speech from extremists-that sort of sounds like blaming the people that hosted and attened the free speech event, doesnt it? Does that mean we can soon expect other responses as a natural 'consequence' from extremists in the US?

It is apropos to point out that there is a Mosque in Garland. It's still there. It will be there tomorrow. Nobody has gone over to attack it. I strongly doubt that anyone will attack it. While some will insist that it's OK, or at least "understandable", to go after others who are provocative it is well to remember that other people are exercising more self-restraint.

By the way the Islamic State claims responsibility for the attack, such as it was.
 
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CAIR's response to this is typical. In a statement, CAIR said: "We condemn yesterday's attack on an anti-Islam event in Garland, Texas, without reservation. "We also reiterate our view that violence in response to anti-Islam programs like the one in Garland is more insulting to our faith than any cartoon, however defamatory. Bigoted speech can never be an excuse for violence".

They never referred to a love of free speech, the free speech laws, Islamic attempts (often successful) to suppress free speech, or the First Amendment. Instead they focus on "anti_Islam", "bigoted speech" and hatreds against Muslims. CAIR Condemns Attack on Anti-Islam Event in Texas - CAIR

One word: taqiya
 
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Some people dont respect other religions or religion generally. Should westerners be made to cow tow to muslims for their self esteem?

Of course not. Why treat them any differently than anyone else? What have you got against equality?

That is a load of hot, smoking bovine feces. I honestly do not understand why anyone here is defending either side. Two groups of bat **** crazy religious freaks up each other's hatred ante and some of you people are picking sides. Both sides were wrong and are wrong. Actions based in pure hatred should garner no sympathy or support from anyone.
 
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That is a load of hot, smoking bovine feces. I honestly do not understand why anyone here is defending either side. Two groups of bat **** crazy religious freaks up each other's hatred ante and some of you people are picking sides. Both sides were wrong and are wrong. Actions based in pure hatred should garner no sympathy or support from anyone.

traveling the world, I've never come across a christian who wanted me dead because of my beliefs.

this equivelency argument doesn't work./
 
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How do you propose to get on top of this home grown Ismlamic extremisim...and in the meantime do you suggest people just hide in their baseme.......

Hey....WAIT a second....

I thought Islamic terrorism in the US wasn't something people should worry about? I thought every time its been brought up its been tea party conservative whack job types overreacting?

Yep...that's what that boob obummer has been preaching.
 
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You mean like this?

oops, I was wrong, they have naked wrists, one of them anyway

how about these women, are they Muslim?

apples and oranges Soomerville
 
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The ignorance expressed here, which is all too common, is a fine example as to why the conflict between radical Islamists and Western cultural expectations continues.

The jihadist welcomes death, he is guaranteed a place in heaven. They want to be threatened, it is not rational but they are joyous when the bombs rain down. The texts and tweets of the two in Garland clearly say they were going to their deaths, the fact they failed to kill any of those who insult the Prophet did not matter to them, for their deaths were statements of their faith.

Just like the Death Penalty...it works every time it's tried.....and I'm all for it! Two less filthy scum on the face of the Earth....soooo many more to go!
This is a life long battle ......and you need to realize that fact.
 
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It is apropos to point out that there is a Mosque in Garland. It's still there. It will be there tomorrow. Nobody has gone over to attack it. I strongly doubt that anyone will attack it. While some will insist that it's OK, or at least "understandable", to go after others who are provocative it is well to remember that other people are exercising more self-restraint.

By the way the Islamic State claims responsibility for the attack, such as it was.



Mornin LD. :2wave: Yeah and now the media was talking about that ISIS is calling it their first attack on US Soil. They are saying that.....it is coming and they will do terrible things. I guess they think that will cause some terror ad fear, huh?




Garland (United States) (AFP) - The Islamic State group on Tuesday claimed responsibility for its first attack on US soil in which two gunmen were killed after opening fire at an event in Texas showcasing cartoons mocking the Prophet Mohammed.

Two of the soldiers of the caliphate executed an attack on an art exhibit in Garland, Texas, and this exhibit was portraying negative pictures of the Prophet Mohammed," the jihadist group said.

"We tell America that what is coming will be even bigger and more bitter, and that you will see the soldiers of the Islamic State do terrible things," the group announced.....snip~

IS claims Texas shooting, first attack on US soil

Naturally, BO and his Team with the Media are having a different take with their pushback.
 
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The first picture wasn't Amish or Mennonite women, they're FLDS women and if he was trying to use them as examples of Christians, he's mistaken

Correct. But like always...Sommervile is trying to muddy the waters and provide misdirection!

We're glad to accommodate them in their pursuit of death

Damn Straight!

Others have noted certain similarities between radical Christians and radical Muslims

Except most of us aren't radical Christians, just normal ones who want to survive and will fight crazy jihadist, when need be!

THEY call themselves Christian. So, once again, the No True Scotsman fallacy is called upon in a weak attempt at diversion

Misdirection once again.

Simplicity works well for some.

Yep..sure does...especially those who talk convoluted BS and attempt to misdirect the Truth. We have their number Leo. :thumbs:
 
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