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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

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True. However, when you bring in Europe's most infamous Muslim hater and create a big, flashy "let's insult the prophet for profit" gala, you'd better have more than one pitiful security guard, just like they have more than one rodeo clown when some manly man decides to squash a bull's balls and go for a ride. Doing dangerous things increases one's odds of experiencing dangerous situations. It was up to those in charge to understand and mitigate that danger adequately. They didn't.

You seem to have everything exactly backwards. They had far more than one pitiful security guard (thanks for making fun of the wounded man by the way) and they mitigated the danger quite well. In fact, the two perps are dead
 
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Honestly (and I'm only half joking here), I actually kind of like the idea of using events like these as bait to draw the violent whackjobs out, so they can be dealt with more efficiently.

Can you say "natural selection?" :lol:

the down side is natural selection would work and the smarter surviving zealots would just look for softer targets in retaliation

but im taking your half joke to seriously sorry :3oops:
 
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nah I call partisan bull **** on that

no one said you should not be free to draw Mohamed just that its a stupid and dangerous thing to do
What was said was that they shouldn't be free from the consequences, which in this case was a violent armed attack. As far as I know, in America, you should indeed be free from those kinds of consequences
 
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Its supposed to be America.

Those people shouldn't have to worry about the consequences of " pissing off a bunch of Muslims ".

They SHOULD be able to express their 1st amendment rights without the fear that they'll be persecuted by those who disagree with them.

The problem isn't the people who held the event, its the people who are Religiously and ideologically committed to killing all those who disagree with them.

Its 2015 for Gods sake. Hard to believe we're even having this conversation.

Our liberal friends seem to disagree. Who knew?
 
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If those ****ing nutbags exist on this soil and lose their minds over a drawing of Muhammed, does anyone REALLY believe some other 'justified' act of terrorism....err...consequence to free speech...is far behind it?
 
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If those ****ing nutbags exist on this soil and lose their minds over a drawing of Muhammed, does anyone REALLY believe some other 'justified' act of terrorism....err...consequence to free speech...is far behind it?

How many terrorist attacks on our soil does that make under Obama's watch now?
 
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I'm not American. My first impulse is to be thankful that the casualties were minimal and that I'm glad the idiots who turned up butt hurt can do no further damage. My second is to be grateful that I live in a Country where a "family day" would involve barbecues, outdoor cricket and other fun activities for the children. I certainly wouldn't be encouraging a member of my family to attend an event with me that offered a $10,000 prize for the best caricature of any religous figure.

Each to his own I guess. Different strokes for different folks.

Cricket is fun?
 
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/facepalm

Thanks to those who provided links to the story, btw.

Yes, we are fortunate enough to live in a country where freedom of speech is allowed; however, freedom from consequence is not allowed. WTF were these idiots thinking? "Gee, it would be fun to entice angry Muslims to come and try to kill us while we mock them?" Thankfully, it wasn't worse... but I can't imagine why anyone would think such an in-your-face outrage would be a swell idea.

Exactly. Im all for free speech but if one looks for trouble you will eventually find it. Its like walking up to a random black man and yelling the n-word to his face. You can say what you want but you need to be aware of the consequences when you do.
 
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Exactly. Im all for free speech but if one looks for trouble you will eventually find it. Its like walking up to a random black man and yelling the n-word to his face. You can say what you want but you need to be aware of the consequences when you do.


True, but then again you can not harm people because they say something you do not like.
 
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Cricket is fun?

:lol: I get that it's not everyones cup of tea.

For me personally, Sunday cricket, exercising, running around in the fresh air, enjoying the sunshine with friends and family, laughing and having fun is a lot more appealing than attending a "family day" that offers prize money for the best caricature of any religious figure.
 
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What was said was that they shouldn't be free from the consequences, which in this case was a violent armed attack. As far as I know, in America, you should indeed be free from those kinds of consequences

I don't think so

freedom from consequence is not allowed

that's what was said not that it shouldn't be or should

im getting more of a your not free from consequences in the sense that cause and effect happens vibe from that

rather then people can do whatever they like to you and thats ok if you open your big mouth vibe
 
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If those ****ing nutbags exist on this soil and lose their minds over a drawing of Muhammed, does anyone REALLY believe some other 'justified' act of terrorism....err...consequence to free speech...is far behind it?

um no one said the attack was justified
 
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How many terrorist attacks on our soil does that make under Obama's watch now?

50062.7

now how is this related to the president in any way
 
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True, but then again you can not harm people because they say something you do not like.
Maybe you and I wont be doing that but everyone has a different temperament. My gramps always told me when I was a kid was not to go out of your way in trying to offend somebody. Just because you can doesnt mean that you should.
 
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the down side is natural selection would work and the smarter surviving zealots would just look for softer targets in retaliation

but im taking your half joke to seriously sorry :3oops:

Exactly. They'd eventually retaliate by bombing things and beheading people in other locales while avoiding the events entirely.

I just happened to think that it was an amusing thought for the moment. ;)
 
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um no one said the attack was justified
Well...lets see. People are saying that it is an expected 'consequence'....that one can expect such a response to an act of free speech from extremists-that sort of sounds like blaming the people that hosted and attened the free speech event, doesnt it? Does that mean we can soon expect other responses as a natural 'consequence' from extremists in the US?
 
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True, but then again you can not harm people because they say something you do not like.

well you can you just should not

now stopping the person committing assault is justified

but wondering what the **** was the racist thinking still makes sense
 
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Exactly. They'd eventually retaliate by bombing things and beheading people in other locales while avoiding the events entirely.

I just happened to think that it was an amusing thought for the moment. ;)

it was
 
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I have no idea how this ceremony is being conflated with the '1st Amendment' or the 'constitutional right to free speech' - can someone please show me the nexus?

The government isn't even involved here.

This appears to be one hate group antagonizing another; a race to the bottom, as I see it.

I don't see any constitutional issues at all.
 
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True. However, when you bring in Europe's most infamous Muslim hater and create a big, flashy "let's insult the prophet for profit" gala, you'd better have more than one pitiful security guard, just like they have more than one rodeo clown when some manly man decides to squash a bull's balls and go for a ride. Doing dangerous things increases one's odds of experiencing dangerous situations. It was up to those in charge to understand and mitigate that danger adequately. They didn't.

Well, apparently there is no need for private security when you are in Texas.
 
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well you can you just should not

now stopping the person committing assault is justified

but wondering what the **** was the racist thinking still makes sense

"Racist"? *smh*
 
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Well...lets see. People are saying that it is an expected 'consequence'....that one can expect such a response to an act of free speech from extremists-that sort of sounds like blaming the people that hosted and attened the free speech event, doesnt it? Does that mean we can soon expect other responses as a natural 'consequence' from extremists in the US?

it might be blaming the people exercising free speech but that's not the same as excusing the criminals who are part of the consequence
 
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"Racist"? *smh*

ya racist talking about the scenario from post 34 that American was responding to
 
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If you look at the shooting and your first impulse is to criticize free speech, you are a HUGE part of what is wrong with America.

Who did that?
 
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