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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

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What do you think they were? There have been a few guesses.

To piss off Muslims. That's plainly obvious.
 
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Why do people on the right have to pretend that there is always a good guy and a bad guy? Like life is a fairy tale, comic book or the bible. The people who tried to shoot up this poorly conceived and insensitive gathering are undoubtedly awful people and in the wrong. That fact doesn't change the idiotic and insensitive nature of the gathering. Both things are true. This is also not an argument about equivalence, which Islamophobes like to throw out there. Things also do not have to be equally bad for both things to be bad. Ignorant redneck dip ****s shouldn't mock and defame other peoples religion and religious fundamentalists should DEFINITELY NOT attempt to commit acts of violence in response to that. That should be something we can all agree on. Unfortunately sanity and reason are in short supply in America, especially on the internet.
 
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The left, by telling everyone what they can and can't say.
Orwell couldn't have demonstrated it better.


Why do conservatives pretend they are the defenders of the politically incorrect all of a sudden? Is it because they really don't understand the difference between being politically incorrect and being a bigot?

Also, there is nothing politically incorrect in this country about Muslim bashing. A person can go on national tv and scream bomb them at the top of their lungs. People like Sam Harris and Bill Maher can spew vile bigotry as often as they like without discursive repercussion. On the other hand, go criticize the troops some time. Now there is a subject where political correctness has silenced any dissent and surprise surprise, look who is leading the charge of political correctness...... It certainly isn't "the left."
 
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Radical Imam Tells Pam Geller She Should Be Slaughtered




Full interview.

In that interview, he said that calling her a pig was too good for her

Which is clearly a lot less worse than Sharia calling for peoples executions.
 
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Geller paid for at least 40 police to be on hand during the cartoon event. There was a SWAT team present as can be seen in the video from inside the building when shots were fired. Not quite comparable to the attack on Charlie Hebdo in Paris

Not at all. It was an obvious attempt to be like them. But again. In America we have lots of guns. Now they said the officer had a handgun (and I'm pretty sure cnn showed a "recreation of 2 cops with sub machine guns) too. Pretty impressive.
 
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While we are on a war footing with these terrorists, I don't think there is a "right way" to make fun of Islam,

Therefore, no one should be allowed to make fun of Islam, right?

though I don't know why you wouldn't capitalize it.
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I did. When I copied/pasted, it changed everything to lowercase letters for some reason.
 
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Speaking of Rand, how do you feel about the way his GOP is attacking him right now?
While McConnell wants the Patriot Act passed untouched, with its mass-gathering of data?

I support McConnell on this--how else can we stop the terrorists?
I know I'm not breaking the law .

I love me some Rand Paul. I don't love me some progressives - which many GOP'ers are.
 
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I did. When I copied/pasted, it changed everything to lowercase letters for some reason.

Forum software. If a post is in all caps, it automatically changes to all lower-case. With good reason.
 
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Radical Imam Tells Pam Geller She Should Be Slaughtered




Full interview.



Wow. Gays, lesbians, anyone who makes fun of Islam and anyone who rejects Islam should be put to death.....

But.... let's keep talking about how Pamela Geller is hateful, eh?
 
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Wow. Gays, lesbians, anyone who makes fun of Islam and anyone who rejects Islam should be put to death.....

But.... let's keep talking about how Pamela Geller is hateful, eh?

Oh, for crying out loud.

It is possible for a group to be opposed to the ills of a religion and still be wrong.

As far as I'm concerned, both Geller and that other yahoo in that video can go take a flying piss.
 
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So Muslims can't be trusted, huh?

There goes Grant with his broad brush and generalisations again.
 
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Does drawing a picture of Mohammed really fall into those categories? You must really feel strongly about this guy.

I haven't said that I am offended by her disrespect, I'm not a Muslim.
 
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No, but the motives of the intended victims certainly are.

Geller and her stooges are the first perpetrators.
 
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Here we value retaining our freedoms, the left is asking us to alter them as a result of this incident. Not gonna happen.

Yeah, the freedom to gratuitously disrespect another religion is a right worth fighting and maybe dying for.
 
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Geller and her stooges are the first perpetrators.
No, Isalm's Sharia requirements are.
 
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Therefore, no one should be allowed to make fun of Islam, right?



I did. When I copied/pasted, it changed everything to lowercase letters for some reason.

Quit saying that, it makes you appear dumb. I don't know how many people in how many ways have acknowledged Geller's right to her expression, you should understand by now that she is being criticised for being intentionally provocative, insensitive to a whole religion for the sake of a bit of satisfaction of having ruffled a group of people she hates. Not that she can't do this, but that she shouldn't, because its nasty, hateful, and more importantly, draws out the extremists in that faith who respond violently. Its irresponsible. And for her efforts a man was shot and injured, fortunately not any worse, this time.
 
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The headlines of the video

SHOCK VIDEO! Radical Imam Tells Pam Geller She Should Be Slaughtered

They're shocked that Anjem Choudary would say something like that? I'd be shocked if he didn't come out with such hateful extreme views because he's been ranting and raving like this for years. They clearly have no idea who this individual is or they woldn't be shocked by the garbage that comes out of his mouth.

Complete and utter nutjob. He's been discussed extensively over in the EU Forum (He's British) and in my four years here as a DP Member and I can't ever recall anyone having a reasonable word to say about him. Quite the opposite. He's a whacko.
 
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You joining her in her next colouring contest?
Your reply is non-responsive and nonsense.
 
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The headlines of the video



They're shocked that Anjem Choudary would say something like that? I'd be shocked if he didn't come out with such hateful extreme views because he's been ranting and raving like this for years. They clearly have no idea who this individual is or they woldn't be shocked by the garbage that comes out of his mouth.

Complete and utter nutjob. He's been discussed extensively over in the EU Forum (He's British) and in my four years here as a DP Member and I can't ever recall anyone having a reasonable word to say about him. Quite the opposite. He's a whacko.

Morning Serenity....

Well, I can certainly agree that no reasonable person agrees with Choudary. However, to read this thread and see the 'handwringing' over someone like Pam Geller hosting a cartoon contest, while at the same time seeing nothing wrong with federal funds supporting "Piss Christ" for example, just shows that maybe Christians should get more extreme, and then maybe the liberals screaming shhhhhh, would respect Christianity also....
 
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Quit saying that, it makes you appear dumb. I don't know how many people in how many ways have acknowledged Geller's right to her expression, you should understand by now that she is being criticised for being intentionally provocative, insensitive to a whole religion for the sake of a bit of satisfaction of having ruffled a group of people she hates. Not that she can't do this, but that she shouldn't, because its nasty, hateful, and more importantly, draws out the extremists in that faith who respond violently. Its irresponsible. And for her efforts a man was shot and injured, fortunately not any worse, this time.

The only ones responsible for shooting anyone on this occasion were the terrorists.
 
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Which rule is that?
I thought you might be referring to South Carolina .

The rule that rioters should not be protected
 
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And liberals still want regular everyday Americans to be disarmed and helpless.
 
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This thinking is completely ignorant. Mind-numbingly ignorant.

If you're going to call me ignorant, then back it up.
 
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No, sorry, you don't get to back away from your stupid claim that there are more right wing terrorists. It's false. Patently false. The number of right wing terror attacks pales in comparison to Islamic terror attacks.

Also, in a thread about terrorists trying to blow up a "Draw Mohammed" party it is hard to credibly use the "all clear!" defense.

Islam used to be the intellectual and economic power in the world. While Christians were burning heretics, Islam was warmly welcoming other points of view. Do you know what happened? Islamic intellectuals decided that intellectual pursuits and critical thinking weren't important parts of Islam. As a culture they stopped questioning and just started to accept things. Now almost 2 billion Muslims live in arguable the most backward parts of the world. This isn't jingoism, it's measurable. The islamic world produces very little intellectual capital for its size.

In the US we're in danger of going down the same path. And that's because it's becoming fashionable not to question anything.

***THINK***** Every single Islamic terrorist attack makes the news. Right wing attacks don't. The country is less than 1% Muslim, it's more than 30% right wing. Simple math would tell that even if Muslims are much more likely to be terrorists, there just aren't enough to account for right wingers becoming terrorists at a lesser rate. Furthermore, just look at the average conservative posting. In this thread alone there are a dozen posts wishing violent harm on other people. Right wing thought has become laced full of hate with very little introspection. And when you really think about it, there's very little difference between that and the thinking of radical Islamists (exuding the very few who actually carry out attacks). And this isn't just a right wing thing, left wing environmentalists do the same thing, there are just fewer of them to pull from.

So if you want to help keep this country from falling off into irrelevance, then take off the blinders and think! Don't take my word for anything, just look it up! Figure out how there could be more Islamic terrorists on US soil. Figure out what that actually means, how you could actually measure it, what that would imply!
 
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