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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

They both offend them.

But one is being done with said offense being the purpose or integral to the purpose of the act.

And one is being done without even a thought as to how it may offend muslims.

Those are two EXTREMELY DIFFERENT THINGS.

For ****s Sake.

Yes they are two different things....so what's your point?
 
With the exact same results. Because....radical Islam....

Wait...NOT the 'same' results. In Texas...people fought back.

:applaud

When radical Islam says KILL them because they are drawing cartoons, and KILL them because they are gay, and KILL them because they are your wife and they talked to a man at work, and KILL them because she is your daughter and she disobeyed you and brought shame and disgrace upon your family, and KILL them, because, well...**** it...just because.......

It might be time to start looking at the actual problem.

Yep!

Sending someone junkmail isn't the same thing as taking a dump on their lawn, even if they are both annoying.

I'd still like to kick their ass....either way!
 
in a place cordoned off specifically for that purpose so that radical muslims can avoid it and NOT be offended, "flaunt their gayness" is a damn offensive way to put it. How would you like it if i said christians who are butchered in church were flaunting their faith?

Gay people cannot enjoy life to fullest while hiding in terror from everyone who takes offense. This is why hate crime legislation exists (well, not in florida). It's totally different from going out of your way to draw a cartoon intended specifically to antagonize. No one is compelled to do that just to have a fulfilling life. Should they have the freedom to without fear? Absolutely. But the 'provocation' element is totally different

In every tragedy we try to assign some ranking of the innocence of victims. Sandy hook obviously drew outrage because the victims were kids. On the flip side, after an arson on a gay bar in the 1970s killed 32, no one including the media gave a damn. Families wouldn't even claim the bodies out of shame. It shouldn't surprise you that an emotion like sympathy hinges on the degree we consider (however misguided) the victims to share responsibility, and the value we hold for the victims' lives

If one of my kids were gay....I'd be ashamed as well......jes sayin
 
So, ban all muslims. I guess it depends on if they're brown enough or not, I suppose.

Not as long winded as your other apologies. You realize you are transferring the blame. Racism has nothing to do with it.
 
Just their regular routine offends me, but I'm not gonna kill anyone over it or even come near the place....or any place like it!

sounds like you could use some conditioning to get over this 'ick factor' and become a true ally

i could send you some hot pics off tumblr...
 
If one of my kids were gay....I'd be ashamed as well......jes sayin

ashamed of what, that your parenting 'skills' made them gay? That you passed them latent gay genes?

oh i get it...wow you think you're better than the killer if you wouldn't even acknowledge your dead kid or go to the funeral. No, at least he was willing to die for his 'cause'. God take a time warp back to 1972 or something
 
I don't approve of gayism in any shape or form.......and they antagonize me every time I'm watching the TV news and they put gay pride events on the screen, or when I'm driving through town and a pride parade is holding up traffic.
Even more offensive is seeing young children exposed to that crap.

you know you sound just like the killer, according to his father...well, the last bit is also like putin
 
I don't approve of gayism in any shape or form.......and they antagonize me every time I'm watching the TV news and they put gay pride events on the screen, or when I'm driving through town and a pride parade is holding up traffic.
Even more offensive is seeing young children exposed to that crap.

You do not seem to understand what "antagonize" means.

If simply seeing homosexuals is enough to put someone into a frothing rage, i would think the obvious issues are harbored by the person with unjustifiable anger, and not with the person who is simply being who they are.
 
i didn't say it's fine, i was explaining that's how it works - HOWEVER MISGUIDED - and that you should not be surprised. Especially since, guess what, you appear to harbor the same preference for certain victims (such as christian martyrs) over others who suffered the same fate. Except you hate me for pointing out this same double standard you're accusing others of

Speaking of double standards, you attacked me with hostility over it but, oddly, you haven't done so here. Why is it so understandable in this situation but I was the worst human in the world for it. Certainly you didn't express any understanding in my case. I know you fault me for everything but you don't really give me much reason to care what you think.



you're no better than palecon at this moment

Do I have your consent to add that to my sig?
 
ashamed of what, that your parenting 'skills' made them gay? That you passed them latent gay genes?

oh i get it...wow you think you're better than the killer if you wouldn't even acknowledge your dead kid or go to the funeral. No, at least he was willing to die for his 'cause'. God take a time warp back to 1972 or something

Thank you for your diatribe of continued BS. And 1972 was a hell of a lot better time, then now. When gays stayed in the closet and didn't get in our faces.
Now, they are just obnoxious creeps.

you know you sound just like the killer, according to his father...well, the last bit is also like putin

More made up BS. Do you even listen to yourself?

You do not seem to understand what "antagonize" means.

If simply seeing homosexuals is enough to put someone into a frothing rage, i would think the obvious issues are harbored by the person with unjustifiable anger, and not with the person who is simply being who they are.

I'm fully aware what antagonize means, and it doesn't only mean hostility.

Here are some synonyms: arouse hostility in, alienate; anger, annoy, provoke, vex, irritate; rub the wrong way; informalaggravate, rile, needle, rattle someone's cage, get someone's back up.

Gays annoy and disgust me, always have, always will. If someone can't deal with that, I really don't give a rat's ass.
 
i don't approve of gayism in any shape or form.......and they antagonize me every time i'm watching the tv news and they put gay pride events on the screen, or when i'm driving through town and a pride parade is holding up traffic.
Even more offensive is seeing young children exposed to that crap.

gheyist post ever!
 
I'm fully aware what antagonize means, and it doesn't only mean hostility.

Here are some synonyms:arouse hostility in, alienate; anger, annoy, provoke, vex, irritate; rub the wrong way; informalaggravate, rile, needle, rattle someone's cage, get someone's back up.

Gays annoy and disgust me, always have, always will. If someone can't deal with that, I really don't give a rat's ass.

Nevermind.
 
Thank you for your diatribe of continued BS. And 1972 was a hell of a lot better time, then now. When gays stayed in the closet and didn't get in our faces.
Now, they are just obnoxious creeps.



More made up BS. Do you even listen to yourself?



I'm fully aware what antagonize means, and it doesn't only mean hostility.

Here are some synonyms: arouse hostility in, alienate; anger, annoy, provoke, vex, irritate; rub the wrong way; informalaggravate, rile, needle, rattle someone's cage, get someone's back up.

Gays annoy and disgust me, always have, always will. If someone can't deal with that, I really don't give a rat's ass.

Dude, really, do you listen to yourself? You accuse gay people of being "obnoxious creeps" then proceed talk about how disgusted you are by their very existence.
 
So if Dylan Roof or James Holmes goes to prison and news comes out that they were raped in prison...you would treat that no different and feel the exact same way and respond the exact same way as you would about the girl recently in the trial out in California?

If a Shia insurgent group began conducting terrorist strikes against ISIS held cities, believing them to be infidels following a wrongful caliphate, you would condemn that equally and with the same response as you do to ISIS terrorism like what happened in Orlando?

Ah, fair point. In your rape example, I don't expect you'll grant me the benefit of the doubt (and maybe for good reason) but I really did find each example as being equally worthy of condemnation. Putting it the way you have here, though, I won't deny your overall point. I can't muster up much sympathy if a child molestor gets treated in prison the way he's treated his victims. I guess, in a way, I feel they deserve it. In the specific example of the planned attack in Texas and the mass murder in Florida, I, in my own personal opinion, which no one need share, I pretty much feel both groups to be equally undeserving of being attacked.
 
Speaking of double standards, you attacked me with hostility over it but, oddly, you haven't done so here. Why is it so understandable in this situation but I was the worst human in the world for it. Certainly you didn't express any understanding in my case. I know you fault me for everything but you don't really give me much reason to care what you think.

if you just flat out will never care what i think then stop asking me questions like this. If you're receptive like you used to be then ask without adding P.S. crap like "oh but i don't care"

Do I have your consent to add that to my sig?

if you're proud of being the next palecon go right ahead, but attach #1608 you know for context
 
if you just flat out will never care what i think then stop asking me questions like this. If you're receptive like you used to be then ask without adding P.S. crap like "oh but i don't care"



if you're proud of being the next palecon go right ahead, but attach #1608 you know for context

That quote would say a lot more about you than me. I know you believe your **** don't stink but you give me very little reason to be receptive to you.
 
You'd perhaps have a point if The Pulse was having some kind of "Mecca of Gayness" night or something purposefully aimed at antagonizing muslims.

You really don't see a difference between:

1. Having an event SPECIFICALLY aimed at engaging in something that offends Muslims for the purpose of showing you don't care that it offends them because it's free expression

2. Engaging in a routine event that is not relating to or concerning muslims in the slightest because it's free expression.

No, there's no difference. If you think there's a difference you should examine that proposition carefully. In your opinion, at what point should we lose the right of free association in order to avoid antagonizing people who are going to hate our guts regardless?
 
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