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Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit [W:439, 529, 978, 1489]

Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

Kobie said:
There is nothing "brave" about intentionally pissing people off under the guise of "free speech."
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Evidently it can get you killed. I'd say that the Charlie Hebdo types of the world are demonstrating courage in the face of a threat.
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

CRUE CAB said:
Supposedly two AK47s were used. That is the caliber they generally are fitted with.
Billions of those rounds are in circulation.
Millions if not billions of AKs are in circulation.
But they seem to be targeting the AR. Funny I find it.
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It takes a special kind of ... well, something I guess, for one's primary concern about this incident is how it may potentially affect their precious guns.

Hell, I like guns, but the way some people treat them as fetish objects is disturbing.
 
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Zyphlin said:
Frankly her event reminds me of the Satanic Statue story recently, or the various Athiest "christmas" displays you always end up hearing about.

Both sides like to CLAIM the primary intent is some kind of political message or some noble cause of "free speech". Both instances are basically full of ****. While I don't doubt it's part of the intent for both, the primary intent is simply to anger, piss off, mock, and thumb their nose at those they have an issue with...be it muslims or the religious in general or christians.

Much like I often view many of those instances as extremely chlidish and juvenile, I see this particular one similarly. However, just like those others, they absolutely should have the right to do it with an expectation that they won't have ILLEGAL consequences ventured upon them for it.

It is ENTIRELY unreasonable to expect to do an action like this and expect there to not be negative consequences.

HOWEVER....

While it's naive to think that illegal consequences can't happen, it's at least reasonable to assume that they shouldn't.

Like so many instances where illegal violence occured....creating such a situation does not "invite" or "cause" violence or suggests the person "had it coming", but it absolutely is an action that increases ones *RISK* of having violence perpetrated against them. Pointing that out isn't being an "apologist" or "victim blaming" but is simply dispassionately dealing with reality.
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Agreed and well said. Sadly your explanation is impossible for a lot of people to grasp.
 
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LeoVlaming said:
So how much sharia law would you like to adopt?
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You can start a thread on sharia law if you like. I guess you're trying to bait me.
 
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cpwill said:
Evidently it can get you killed. I'd say that the Charlie Hebdo types of the world are demonstrating courage in the face of a threat.
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It's not because something can get you killed that it is brave.

Personally I don't care for Charlie Hebdo, Geert Wilders, Communists, Fascists, etc. But they are all entitled to voice their opinions. And fundamentalist muslims are entitled to that too. But nobody is entitled to engage in terrorism and no legal act can be considered a "provocation" or "bait" to terrorism.
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

Kobie said:
It takes a special kind of ... well, something I guess, for one's primary concern about this incident is how it may potentially affect their precious guns.

Hell, I like guns, but the way some people treat them as fetish objects is disturbing.
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Calling guns a fetish is nothing more than another attack on gun owners rights. Just another lefty try at an insult when debate is over the lefts head.
Google M855 ammo ban. Then put 1 and 1 together and see if you understand.
 
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cpwill said:
Evidently it can get you killed. I'd say that the Charlie Hebdo types of the world are demonstrating courage in the face of a threat.
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I'm much more inclined to believe that Charlie Hebdo's depictions of Muhammad were intended as a legitimate statement of free expression, as opposed to Pam Geller's typical display of rank bigotry. While neither deserves a violent response, I consider the source whenever someone claims they're on a free speech crusade.
 
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Kobie said:
It takes a special kind of ... well, something I guess, for one's primary concern about this incident is how it may potentially affect their precious guns.

Hell, I like guns, but the way some people treat them as fetish objects is disturbing.
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Some people have guns on the brain.

Others have so-called same-seks-marriage on the brain.

Everybody can have their hobby I guess.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Calling guns a fetish is nothing more than another attack on gun owners rights. Just another lefty try at an insult when debate is over the lefts head.
Google M855 ammo ban. Then put 1 and 1 together and see if you understand.
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I'm attacking your rights? Oh, cry me a ****ing river.

This is not a second amendment issue. Stop trying to make it one.
 
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LeoVlaming said:
Some people have guns on the brain.

Others have so-called same-seks-marriage on the brain.

Everybody can have their hobby I guess.
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Look deeper. I have race cars on the brain much more. I wouldn't call it a fetish though.
So instead of worrying about me, worry what tact the government will take in the wake of this false flag.
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

Kobie said:
I'm attacking your rights? Oh, cry me a ****ing river.

This is not a second amendment issue. Stop trying to make it one.
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It will be just as soon as the anti gun fools come calling.
 
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cpwill said:
Evidently it can get you killed. I'd say that the Charlie Hebdo types of the world are demonstrating courage in the face of a threat.
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I guess it is brave in the same way walking through Harlem yelling "N-word! N-word! N-word!" is brave. :)
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

CRUE CAB said:
Look deeper. I have race cars on the brain much more. I wouldn't call it a fetish though.
So instead of worrying about me, worry what tact the government will take in the wake of this false flag.
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Ah, a "false flag". I was waiting for this staple element to be brought up.
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

LeoVlaming said:
Ah, a "false flag". I was waiting for this staple element to be brought up.
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Why not? Two guys, one we know was on probation for terror. Just happen to show up with "assault rifles" and start shooting up a low level art show?
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

CRUE CAB said:
Why not? Two guys, one we know was on probation for terror. Just happen to show up with "assault rifles" and start shooting up a low level art show?
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Clearly a conspiracy, right?
 
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Followers of ISIS had been sending messages about the event in Texas for more than a week, calling for attacks. One referenced January's Charlie Hebdo massacre in France and said it was time for "brothers" in the United States to do their part.
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So... how did that work out for you in Texas, in an armed society?


Not so good eh? Yeah I sort of figured... :lamo
 
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I keep finding it funny how many people ignore that it was police who stopped this attack, not armed civilians.
 
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blarg said:
it might be blaming the people exercising free speech but that's not the same as excusing the criminals who are part of the consequence
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It's more like blaming the rape victim because she wore a short skirt.
 
Re: Two Shot at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

CRUE CAB said:
Look deeper. I have race cars on the brain much more. I wouldn't call it a fetish though.
So instead of worrying about me, worry what tact the government will take in the wake of this false flag.
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Oh for the love of ...

Pretty lousy "false flag" when the only people who died were the perps, wasn't it.

Yes, everything is just a conspiracy to take away The Precious.
 
Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

Kobie said:
While the morons in Texas were wrong to desecrate another religion seemingly for kicks, they still have the right to do it, and to respond to it with violence (as these attackers did) is way, way wronger. Come on, people. Stop making excuses for violent extremists.

On a side note, to a certain poster in thread (I think we all know who) -- wasn't nice knowing you.
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So do you have the same opinion of Atheists who get their kicks attacking Christianity, or is that OK because we know there won't be an exchange of gunfire over it?
 
Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

blarg said:
Pretty sure you should be free from getting shot at for drawling Mohamed
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Pretty sure I should be free from getting mugged or shot because I have $100 in my pocket, too. What's your point?
 
Re: Shooting at Muhammad Art Exhibit in Texas

Kobie said:
There is nothing "brave" about intentionally pissing people off under the guise of "free speech."
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It is a very dangerous point of view.When I look at these pictures I see brave Afghan women fighting for their rights.Are they brave or stupid,what do you think?Is there anything brave about it?

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Let me tell you what Muslims don't find offensive : NOTHING.

You are clueless about the Islamic culture.You can easily get beaten for drinking water in the middle of summer,in an Anatolian town in Turkey during Ramadan.You can get harassed for not dressing moderately.The list goes on and on...
 
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Anglo-scot said:
Respect is a two way street and, thanks to Charlie Hebdo and this stupid stunt, the entire Muslim world knows more than ever that their religion is not respected by a good portion of Westerners.
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The entire Muslim world should be told that respect comes when Muslims stop murdering cartoonists, then....
 
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