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Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384]

Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

You continue to repeat what the OFFICER wrote and not what Donta Allan actually said.

That you continue to confuse this simple issue... just sad, really.
And again. You are assuming.
The article attributed the quote to the witness. Period. You can not get around that.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

and again. You are assuming.
The article attributed the quote to the witness. Period. You can not get around that.

Which quote???

Specifically - quote the quote.
 
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Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

Which quote???

Specifically - quote the quote.
Stop with the game.
We have already been through this over and over again.

You are making an assumption and ignoring that the author attributed the quote to the witness. Period.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

Stop with the game.
We have already been through this over and over again.

You are making an assumption and ignoring that the author attributed the quote to the witness. Period.

WHAT QUOTE???


You keep using that word like you have access to Donta Allen's words! If that is the case.... provide them.

Otherwise, you should stop using the word "quote" since it's not the correct word for what you actually mean. You are either unintentionally using that word because you don't know what it means, or you are intentionally using it because you are lying.

So, which is it? Are you stupid, or are you a liar?
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

Gonzo Rodeo​;1064649105 said:
stupid, [...] liar
While I have no problem with you demeaning yourself like that, you should really avoid harming your ego like that.



Gonzo Rodeo​;1064649105 said:

WHAT QUOTE???


You keep using that word like you have access to Donta Allen's words! If that is the case.... provide them.

Otherwise, you should stop using the word "quote" since it's not the correct word for what you actually mean. You are either unintentionally using that word because you don't know what it means, or you are intentionally using it because you are lying.

So, which is it? Are you stupid, or are you a liar?
I see you are talking about yourself again.

It has already been provided.
The author attributed the quote to the witness. No one else. "His statements" Do you not understand that?

But of course you are still going to ignore reality. What a shame.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384


WHAT QUOTE???


You keep using that word like you have access to Donta Allen's words! If that is the case.... provide them.

Otherwise, you should stop using the word "quote" since it's not the correct word for what you actually mean. You are either unintentionally using that word because you don't know what it means, or you are intentionally using it because you are lying.

So, which is it? Are you stupid, or are you a liar?

He can't. He's doing what he always does. Spin and lie about what was posted. He'll just keep deflecting. Somehow I think you already picked up on this however. :lol:

Same crap different thread of excon rushing to the defense of authoritarianism.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

He can't. He's doing what he always does. Spin and lie about what was posted. He'll just keep deflecting. Somehow I think you already picked up on this however. :lol:

Same crap different thread of excon rushing to the defense of authoritarianism.
1. Wrong.
He has already been address multiple times. He refuses to acknowledge it.

2. This isn't about me, which you are wrong about as well.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

1. Wrong.
He has already been address multiple times. He refuses to acknowledge it.

2. This isn't about me, which you are wrong about as well.

He asked you to quote the other prisoner. You haven't. You've quoted a cop who claims to be quoting that prisoner. You keep lying. I'm not surprised.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

poweRob​;1064649174 said:
You keep lying. I'm not surprised.
Knock off the personal attacks and making false claims.


poweRob​;1064649174 said:
He asked you to quote the other prisoner. You haven't. You've quoted a cop who claims to be quoting that prisoner.
You are wrong and assuming.
The author attributed the quote to the witness. No one else.


But instead of paying attention to what has already been provided you choose to spout off your untruths. Figures.

Read the OP, what is in the link, and then the following. Everything and every angle has already been addressed.
So stop your nonsense.


Excon​;1064646149 said:
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Yay!
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And around and around we go with you playing your silly game.


Wrong. You are the one assuming here.

I am pointing out that the author attributed the quote to the witness.
The author did. Period. That is not an assumption, but fact.
You can't get around that.

What I also did was acknowledge that the author may have badly worded his report, wrongly but still attributing the quote to the witness.
So even if you "were correct that it was only the Officer relaying what he was told, your interpretation of how it was written is still wrong."



Based on the information in the OP, this is your assumption.
What we had was the author attributing the quote to the witness.


Holy ****. Still lost I see.

We have what has been attributed to him.
Not just what was in the affidavit, but by the Commissioner as well.
There is no indication that his recorded statement or the information revealed from it was tainted by any reason to lie.


Wrong.
Especially in the light of him proffering reason why he is saying what he is now (a reason to lie | tainted).
That makes what he has said now far more suspect.

So lets show everybody how you like going in circles.
Everything above had already been addressed previously.

The most recent post that addresses all of it was made in post #544.

Excon​;1064613045 said:
No. It doesn't say that at all.

The only correct interpretation of those words, because of the actual wording, paragraph construction and quotations, was that the author was quoting the prisoner's words.

The quotes were attributed to the witness. "His statements". Not anyone else's.
But of course you do not want to recognize that.

Your argument based on the information in the OP is 100% wrong, and it is you who can't get around that fact.

It wouldn't even matter if what you say turns out to be factual correct. Based on the wording, paragraph construction and quotations, the author was attributing the quotes to the witness.
I even acknowledged that it may have been badly written, but the attribution was still to the witness. Not anyone else.


1. Irrelevant argument in regards to whom the author attributed the quotes.
2. An assumption on your part which is not consistent with the way the article was written.

And as already pointed out, an Officer's sworn statement has far more credibility that the contrary statements the witness is now making. Just another thing that you can not get around.

[...]

The witness made it known why he was now saying what he was. It was to protect himself and that taints his denial.
Contrasted with what he said earlier having no reason shown that he could be making it up, one is far more believable than the other.

Whether you realize it or not, that is a clear distinction, which has nothing to do with anyone's skin color.

And as I previously said, "if that information is ever given to a jury they will have far more reason to trust it than anything he says now".
Absent information to the contrary, thinking otherwise is sheer lunacy.


But please, continue with your silly silly game.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

Knock off the personal attacks and making false claims.


You are wrong and assuming.
The author attributed the quote to the witness. No one else.


But instead of paying attention to what has already been provided you choose to spout off your untruths. Figures.

Read the OP, what is in the link, and then the following. Everything and every angle has already been addressed.
So stop your nonsense.



So now you are lying AND playing the victim. same crap, different thread.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

poweRob​;1064649203 said:
So now you are lying AND playing the victim. same crap, different thread.
Wrong.
Stop telling untruths.
Even the prosecutor acknowledged that those were snippets of his statements.
Address what was presented or push on.
 
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Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

While I have no problem with you demeaning yourself like that, you should really avoid harming your ego like that.



I see you are talking about yourself again.

It has already been provided.
The author attributed the quote to the witness. No one else. "His statements" Do you not understand that?

But of course you are still going to ignore reality. What a shame.

Why can't you provide the quote?
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

So now you are lying AND playing the victim. same crap, different thread.

He is also doing some sort of trickery where it doesn't notify me when he quotes me. Almost as if he doesn't want me to see that it happened..... Scared, perhaps?
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

Gonzo Rodeo​;1064649526 said:
Why can't you provide the quote?
Still acting like it wasn't and refusing to address what has already been provided.
Typical.
Everything and every angle has already been addressed.
So stop your silly game.

The only problem here is htat you do not want to admit you are assuming and that the author attributed the quote to the witness.
Again: "His statement", not anyone else's.
Even the prosecutor has acknowledged that those were snippets of the witness's statement.


Gonzo Rodeo​;1064649528 said:
He is also doing some sort of trickery where it doesn't notify me when he quotes me. Almost as if he doesn't want me to see that it happened..... Scared, perhaps?
:lamo
Given that you are responding; What a lame and illogical thing to say.
 
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Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

Still acting like it wasn't and refusing to address what has already been provided.
Typical.
Everything and every angle has already been addressed.
So stop your silly game.

The only problem here is htat you do not want to admit you are assuming and that the author attributed the quote to the witness.
Again: "His statement", not anyone else's.
Even the prosecutor has acknowledged that those were snippets of the witness's statement.


:lamo
Given that you are responding; What a lame and illogical thing to say.

It's not showing up as a notification. I don't know how you're doing it, but it's only you. I see that someone has responded to a subscribed thread, but you are doing something to make it not notify. That trick probably works in busy threads.

This thread is pretty much dead, however, because no one else has the stomach to deal with your bull ****. You cannot provide a quote from Allen. All you have is an officer's word for it. Allen repudiated the statement. These are called facts.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

It's not showing up as a notification.
Tissue?


This thread is pretty much dead, however, because no one else has the stomach to deal with your bull ****.
There you go making more false assumptions.


You cannot provide a quote from Allen. All you have is an officer's word for it. Allen repudiated the statement. These are called facts.
All relevant information has been provided.
Everything you have brought up, and every angle, has already been addressed.
You choose to ignore it.

Stop playing your game and address what has been provided.

The author attributed the quote to the witness.
[highlight]What do you not understand about that?[/highlight]​

"His statement", not anyone else's.
[highlight]What about this do you not understand?[/highlight]​

Even the prosecutor has acknowledged that those were snippets of the witness's statement.
[highlight]What do you not understand about this as well?[/highlight]​
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

The author lied in his statement. You are obviously unwilling to accept this.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

The author lied in his statement.
Prove it.

You are obviously unwilling to accept this.
Clearly you know not of what you speak.
I have already acknowledged that the author may have badly worded his report.
But he clearly attributed the quote to the witness, not anyone else. Which just shows you have not paid attention to what has been provided. :doh
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

It would be nice if they had an ignore function. Whenever i see ANY of excons posts i purposely zoom past them and dont read a word. He is just way too annoying to try to comprehend. Ive never seen 1 single post by him that seemed useful or sincere.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

It would be nice if they had an ignore function. Whenever i see ANY of excons posts i purposely zoom past them and dont read a word. He is just way too annoying to try to comprehend. Ive never seen 1 single post by him that seemed useful or sincere.
That is becasue of your own convoluted thoughts.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

He is also doing some sort of trickery where it doesn't notify me when he quotes me. Almost as if he doesn't want me to see that it happened..... Scared, perhaps?

Same here. I get no notification that he replied. I just have to trip across the reply.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

So now we have a source close to the case telling Megyn Kelly that the witness is on video telling the investigators that he was repeatedly banging his head against the van and that he sounded like a mad man.


Start @ the 0:54 mark.


 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

Cool.

Let's see the tape. Perhaps a person close to the case could provide it.

I mean, none of the three people featured on that panel - neither Megyn Kelly nor her two guests - have seen the alleged tape. One guest says yeah, sure, it makes sense that there would be a tape, but none of them have seen it.

Kind of a shame, isn't it? That there hasn't been a single first-hand source to corroborate?
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

Kind of a shame, isn't it? That there hasn't been a single first-hand source to corroborate?

The prosecutor has already acknowledged to the Court that the witness made the previous statements that were reported on. You know, those that he denied making.

But she is also trying to control the narrative. When she stops, the first hand information will be made available.
 
Re: Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document [W:384

The defense also has a vested interest in controlling the narrative. They could do so pretty easily if they released the video.
 
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