MaggieD
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Morning Maggie :2wave:
How did you come to these "conclusions"? As far as I know, we haven't seen the autopsy, or the any of the police investigation, so the only way anyone can come to any conclusion is through their own speculation about what they think happened....Remember Ferguson? The instant 'conclusion' was that Wilson shot Brown when his hands were in the air...Which led to the totally false "hands up, don't shoot'' meme, that was proven false....
If Freddie Grey's injuries were caused by police in the apprehension after his running, and resisting arrest, then yes the evidence will show that, and they are accountable, but if they happened in the van on the way to jail, then we must look at the transport driver, as he is the only one responsible for the custody of Grey at that point...
Criminalizing policing only serves to ensure that police will not do their jobs. Do we have "bad cops" in the system? Yes, and they should be weeded out, but to use such blanket accusation in demonizing police in general I don't think is correct. We need police doing their jobs in our communities, the alternative we saw last Monday night. Those weren't images that I think make most people feel safe.
BTW, Now that leaks from the report turned over yesterday to the States atty, seem to say that Grey died from head injuries sustained in the back of the van, and NOT from the arrest, and that is consistent with the report from the other prisoner being transported, that Grey sounded like he was trying to injure himself....I personally don't know, but I haven't made any conclusions yet either.
Hi, J-Mac. Good to see you!
If we all here on DP waited for "just the facts, ma'am," it wouldn't be half as fun. Ha! With the information I have right now, I'm jumping to conclusions, true enough. But something happened to this guy, and I don't believe for one NY minute that he did it to himself in an over-zealous attempt to show police brutality. What we do know is that he wasn't properly restrained in the van and that at least one unauthorized stop was made. At least two cops put him in the van, unrestrained. I doubt the driver of the van was the lone LEO in the transport. Could have been, I suppose.
This was a horrendous incident. Society needs to make sure there's no white-washing and that at the very least! LEO mistakes made here, if any, cost jobs. And if criminal intent is found? Prosecution. We simply can't give coppers carte blanche. We talk about paying the consequences for one's behavior all the time. They must be held accountable. If big IF it's appropriate.