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Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent [W:437]

Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

Here are 'Joe Blow's' (the author of the graph) qualifications to comment on the subject.

Roy W. Spencer received his Ph.D. in meteorology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 1981. Before becoming a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville in 2001, he was a Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, where he and Dr. John Christy received NASA’s Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal for their global temperature monitoring work with satellites. Dr. Spencer’s work with NASA continues as the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite. He has provided congressional testimony several times on the subject of global warming.

Dr. Spencer’s research has been entirely supported by U.S. government agencies: NASA, NOAA, and DOE. He has never been asked by any oil company to perform any kind of service. Not even Exxon-Mobil.

About | Roy Spencer, PhD.

Vs the real world the climate models this whole panic is entirely based on are basically sh*t by whatever real world measure you choose to judge them by. Nuff said :cool:


It's amazing you'd produce Joe Blow's creds from Joeblow.com. That bit of wanton brazen naivete aside, how do we know he hasn't gone bonkers since then?

And the bold part? CT dog-whistle, except it makes an ugly noise.
 
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How about a 6" lowering kit? :) Naa, that'd prolly be too much.
With speed, you're going to need some handling, right?
 
Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

I've been telling ya'll AGW is BS for what? 7+ YEARS. I've known this to be true since before the turn of the Century. Lot's of BS, wrapped around political grandstanding all with money flowing is not science. That's all the whole "GLOBAL WARMING" thing has been.
People worry about sea level rises? Go take a look around there world. There are port cities that are miles inland... now, and others that are submerged and lost to time. How ever did that happen if we are only just now destroying the earth with CO2?
 
Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

Some people just like being scared and having some authority take them by the hand and lead them to what they want to be the true path of righteousness. Cossetted middle class Western lifestyles are too safe for them and they need a threat. Eco panics come and go and this current one has almost run its course. Hundreds of billions being squandered in the process

Do they not understand that they're getting fleeced ? Scammed ? Taken advantage of ?

Something tells me that the Pro-AGW lobby as a percentage is far more sucseptible to those Nigerian lottery scams than the rest of us.

They would trade their hard earned money for a perception based on fraud.
 
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Perhaps you could start with avoiding the term "cons" when demanding people avoid the partisan crap. Goes to credibility. Take the time to type it out, or use a different reference. It's pretty well established what is attempting to be implied by the using the word.

But I didn't see anything partisan in that, just equality of criticism. "Lib" isn't exactly an endearing term.
 
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But I didn't see anything partisan in that, just equality of criticism. "Lib" isn't exactly an endearing term.

That's fine. However, if someone is demanding partisan responses aren't welcome, they probably shouldn't include a partisan pejorative in the request. I suggest that defeats the whole point.
 
Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

I've been telling ya'll AGW is BS for what? 7+ YEARS. I've known this to be true since before the turn of the Century. Lot's of BS, wrapped around political grandstanding all with money flowing is not science. That's all the whole "GLOBAL WARMING" thing has been.
People worry about sea level rises? Go take a look around there world. There are port cities that are miles inland... now, and others that are submerged and lost to time. How ever did that happen if we are only just now destroying the earth with CO2?

Gore made a prediction that our Coastline would be submerged within 20 years and then he went and bought a Beechhouse

You would think that the People on the left would be sick of being wrong about everything.
 
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how does posting the time of singular local records indicate anything about the trend in long term global averages?

I've already linked the long term averages from both poles too. Temperatures today are just fine and are nowhere close to being in any way abnormal. This interactive map of peer reviewed studies from around the world amply illustrates that.

http://pages.science-skeptical.de/MWP/MedievalWarmPeriod.html
 
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and some people actually have studied math and science beyond middle school.

And some people can tell fact from fiction
 
Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

It's amazing you'd produce Joe Blow's creds from Joeblow.com. That bit of wanton brazen naivete aside, how do we know he hasn't gone bonkers since then?

And the bold part? CT dog-whistle, except it makes an ugly noise.

If these credentials are false or the evidence he presented in error please give your evidence to that effect. Spencer has been one of the worlds leading climate experts for decades
 
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That's fine. However, if someone is demanding partisan responses aren't welcome, they probably shouldn't include a partisan pejorative in the request. I suggest that defeats the whole point.

But criticizing both is definitively not partisan. He referred to both liberals and conservatives with the slight, lib/con. And you picked up only on the con and accused him of partisanship, lol. I see which party you're partisan to.
 
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Gore made a prediction that our Coastline would be submerged within 20 years and then he went and bought a Beechhouse

You would think that the People on the left would be sick of being wrong about everything.

:roll: nobodies always wrong, and nobodies always right.
 
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And,
that study is but one voice in a global sea of scientific studies that collaborate the seriousness of climate change.
But besides that, I don't understand why clean air, clean water and safe food is political. Regardless of politics, all of us need it. The one thing that the two parties should easily have consensus on, and yet profit even trumps that.

What the hell does that mean?
 
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What the hell does that mean?

That there's a far greater body of scientific work documenting climate change and it's ill effects to the environment. Thought it was clear enough.
 
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That there's a far greater body of scientific work documenting climate change and it's ill effects to the environment. Thought it was clear enough.

How can you " document " something that doesn't exist, or only exist in computer models built on manipulated data ?

For the millionth time, manipulating temperate data to arrive at a pre-determined conclusion isn't Science, it's fraud.

NOAA quietly revises website after getting caught in global warming lie, admitting 1936 was hotter than 2012 - NaturalNews.com
 
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That there's a far greater body of scientific work documenting climate change and it's ill effects to the environment. Thought it was clear enough.

You did say "collaborate" and i thought that was surprising coming from a true-believer since they'd never acknowledge they are collaborators.
But don't get me wrong, I know it also.
 
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But criticizing both is definitively not partisan. He referred to both liberals and conservatives with the slight, lib/con. And you picked up only on the con and accused him of partisanship, lol. I see which party you're partisan to.

LOL.

What, so that changes the point?

Awesome.

I see which party you're partisan to.
 
Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

That there's a far greater body of scientific work documenting climate change and it's ill effects to the environment. Thought it was clear enough.
Pray tell, do you believe there is a perfect "climate" for the Earth?
 
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Pray tell, do you believe there is a perfect "climate" for the Earth?

Not likely.
 
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LOL.

What, so that changes the point?

Awesome.

I see which party you're partisan to.

Well that would be none, obviously.
 
Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

How can you " document " something that doesn't exist, or only exist in computer models built on manipulated data ?

For the millionth time, manipulating temperate data to arrive at a pre-determined conclusion isn't Science, it's fraud.

NOAA quietly revises website after getting caught in global warming lie, admitting 1936 was hotter than 2012 - NaturalNews.com

You think that all the scientists around the world that have produced work on this work for NOAA?
 
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You did say "collaborate" and i thought that was surprising coming from a true-believer since they'd never acknowledge they are collaborators.
But don't get me wrong, I know it also.

A true believer? This isn't faith based. So no, I don't believe anything. But there's far mor studies that acknowledge it then dispute it. So I accept its likelihood. What's unfortunate to me is that it's politicized to begin with. The only agenda I see is a desire to have a stable environment with clean air, water and preservation of the status quo.
 
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So, if there is no perfect climate, then it changes right?

Of course the climate changes, and would do so even if humans had never evolved, I suspect. But that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not the climate is changing for the worse due in any part to human activity. And there are plenty of scientific studies suggesting it does.
 
Re: Our climate models are WRONG: Global warming has slowed - and recent changes are

Of course the climate changes, and would do so even if humans had never evolved, I suspect. But that's not the issue. The issue is whether or not the climate is changing for the worse due in any part to human activity. And there are plenty of scientific studies suggesting it does.

No, there is a political/economic incentive to greatly exaggerate the affects of man with dubious science
 
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