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Baltimore on edge after arrestee's fatal spine injury[W:216]

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Lursa said:
Some people believe 'it could never happen to them' and the ones it happens to 'deserve it.'

Like the guy late on his child support payments that ran from the cop and was shot in the back. Apparently, he 'deserved it.'

It would be lot cheaper tho, huh? To have alot less costs for prisons and courts? I hear that stoning in the Middle East is cheap AND good exercise.
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Yikes!! :shock:
 
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WCH said:
So you're just going to make some up?

Me thinks the media and the race baitors have made you hysterical.
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What have I made up? You are the one who sounds hysterical! We were talking stats, weren't we?
 
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csbrown28 said:
I think there are a lot of factors that are at play. The media, the rate of poverty among African Americans, the rate of crime among the poor, and popular culture to name a few. I think it's quite possible, even probable that black men are the victims of unjustified police violence at a much higher rate than white men given the fact that African Americans (men and women) make up about 12% of the population. What I'm not ready to say is that the prevailing attitude among police is that it's ok to shoot black men.
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What you forgot to name is technology and the fact that the brutality is being videoed on an almost daily basis these days for the world to finally see, altho your other observations are relevant also.
 
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Lursa said:
We do disagree and I said nothing about 'street punks.' That seems to assume a previous record.
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No, I'm sure this kid was a choir boy....
 
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Juanita said:
Having an outstanding warrant or a criminal record does not justify a death sentence, or do you think it does?
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Nice bumper sticker...Maybe it will fit next to the "Coexist" one on your Prius.
 
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csbrown28 said:
I think there are a lot of factors that are at play. The media, the rate of poverty among African Americans, the rate of crime among the poor, and popular culture to name a few. I think it's quite possible, even probable that black men are the victims of unjustified police violence at a much higher rate than white men given the fact that African Americans (men and women) make up about 12% of the population. What I'm not ready to say is that the prevailing attitude among police is that it's ok to shoot black men.
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So why are they killing twice as many white people????? In all of this time of race bating we have seen only one police shooting that seems to be excessive.

In this case the criminal was being belligerent and uncooperative and got his back broke.
 
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Morality Games said:
:2razz:

Let me google that for you

Like 20 recent articles about how it is almost impossible to get a grand jury to indict a cop for a crime.

But I guess I'll supplement that with an explanation.

Mayors, judges, and prosecutors are generally ambitious career orientated people that want legacies and and promotions. The mayor wants to be governor, the judge wants to be chief justice, and the prosecutor wants to be a the district attorney. All of them depending on a working relationship with the police to make ends meet, in particular to maintain the all important illusion that everything is working as intended. Even private law firms rely on the police to develop and argue their cases; police, due to the nature of their work, monopolize a lot of the resources and currencies of legal and political power at the municipal, state, and even national level.

While ostensibly under most legal systems police aren't really allowed to show favoritism in their relations with public figures, in reality the scale of the work that needs to be done always exceeds the amount of available man power and resources, meaning the police as both organizations and individuals enjoy a certain amount of control over how much effort they are willingness to invest into a particular legal or criminal matter. And the amount of bureaucracy and legal knowledge and right at the disposal of a police department and their union always exceeds the ability of any individual figure to hold police accountable for lack of investment or cooperation in Random Legal Matter/Crime Exhibit A. The mayor doesn't really have the power to just fire a public official like a police officer for being uncooperative or under invested in matters that affect the mayor; mayors have elections, police have unions, so its not hard to predict which one of them is going to survive past a spike in unpopularity due to an erosion of civil stability and an increase in crime.

It's not difficult to predict the results of such a climate.
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Yes, I know what they do. But you said that they are "suppose" to do that. No, they are not suppose to do that.
 
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Juanita said:
Excuse me, but my understanding is that their are no reliable stats on civilian shootings by police.
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Exactly, who would want to keep trac of that.
 
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j-mac said:
Nice bumper sticker...Maybe it will fit next to the "Coexist" one on your Prius.
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Right, because living peaceably amongst your neighbors and 52MPG, are bad things.
 
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Iron River said:
So why are they killing twice as many white people????? In all of this time of race bating we have seen only one police shooting that seems to be excessive.

In this case the criminal was being belligerent and uncooperative and got his back broke.
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So wait, your asking me why they are killing 2 times as many whites as blacks when there are 9 times more whites than blacks in the US?
 
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Montecresto said:
Right, because living peaceably amongst your neighbors and 52MPG, are bad things.
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Ah, it's really, really, really stupid....Platitudes and catch phrases are not debate.
 
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j-mac said:
Ah, it's really, really, really stupid....Platitudes and catch phrases are not debate.
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It's true, I own a Prius, it gets 52 MPG, and I'm much happier at peace with my neighbors, both realities.
 
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annata said:
i'm from Baltimore..that's because Inner Harbor is a tourist attraction - go up Charles St, or west over Franklin Street
it's like any other city..
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I always saw the heavily policed area as a square in Baltimore. 40 and 95 to South MLK to North Broadway which basically covers the traffic areas for tourist and visitors. Fells Point, Fort McHenry, John Hopkins, Camden Yards and the Casino.
 
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csbrown28 said:
Yea, I lived in Frederick for 10 years and spent a lot of time in my youth parting there. I just don't remember that many cops....Oh well....
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LOL, we've probably crossed paths at some point...Cascade and Blue Ridge Summit is where I grew up. FSK Mall and Valley Mall is where I did my shopping.
 
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j-mac said:
yeah, I lived in Bel Air, and worked driving from Frederick to Rockville every day...Lived there for twenty years....You want real Baltimore, head on down the Alameda, or on over to Charles hights....I am sure you will get a great education on what its like to deal with unpredictable people.
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Ewww... Alameda.
 
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austrianecon said:
LOL, we've probably crossed paths at some point...Cascade and Blue Ridge Summit is where I grew up. FSK Mall and Valley Mall is where I did my shopping.
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Wow, that's freeky. My parents lived right over the bridge in MD right off 340, Keep Tryst Rd (after moving from Willowdale Drive, right off 40 near Frederick Towne Mall). My Ex Wife and I looked at a house in BRS once. Picked up my first date after moving to MD at FSK (old Anderson Little Store before the facelift)...lol I was 20 at the time, spent a lot of time there. I lived in Hagerstown too, worked at First Data for a few years...Small world man. :mrgreen:
 
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csbrown28 said:
Wow, that's freeky. My parents lived right over the bridge in MD right off 340, Keep Tryst Rd (after moving from Willowdale Drive, right off 40 near Frederick Towne Mall). My Ex Wife and I looked at a house in BRS once. Picked up my first date after moving to MD at FSK (old Anderson Little Store before the facelift)...lol I was 20 at the time, spent a lot of time there. I lived in Hagerstown too, worked at First Data for a few years...Small world man. :mrgreen:
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Well it's actually a small world. Willowdale Drive, as in Willowcrest area? You missed nothing by passing on an house in BRS (cheap prices and good snow) but other then that.. pretty damn boring area. Lived on Church street in BRS/Cascade. The house sat right on the border. Then Carrosmar Farm Rd. Hagerstown.. geez as close as it was, only time I ever set foot in Hagerstown was when the O's owned the Minor league team and to go to the Valley Mall area (to eat out or something) or The Schmankerl Stube.. best damn german food in the area.

My wife is from Southie. She's a west 3rd ave girl. Her dad was a cop too.

So yeah.. crazy ****.
 
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Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake actually asked police to “give those who wished to destroy space to do that.”

A mayor said that. Incredible.
 
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Juanita said:
Excuse me, but my understanding is that their are no reliable stats on civilian shootings by police.
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2012 and after the FBI compiles them. Before that the state DOJs kept them individually and you had to do some math.
 
If you get a chance, see if can catch the video and/or interview with Robert Valentine. Was telling some kids to run off when they were taunting the police about 30-40 minutes ago. His interview and why doing it was great too, if anyone needs to gain something out of this ****ed up situation, it's him imo.
 
Johns Hopkins is now under lock-down as the mob heads towards the hospital. Shelter-in-place has been ordered for staff and patients and entrances and exits have been secured.
 
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Iron River said:
So why are they killing twice as many white people????? In all of this time of race bating we have seen only one police shooting that seems to be excessive.

In this case the criminal was being belligerent and uncooperative and got his back broke.
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Have you been off the planet on vacation or something?
 
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Montecresto said:
Exactly, who would want to keep trac of that.
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They -- government agencies and private institutes--keep track of everything else, why not something as important as how many citizens are killed by police!
 
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