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Wal-Mart workers allege layoffs, store closings were retaliatory

What are the job markets in those areas? :) Paid vacation? Lol. I'm sure they're rolling in the deep with that money.
They'll have the same amount of money as if they were working, for two months. And after that they're eligible for severance if they haven't found work. That's more than fair
 
Here's what Walmart has said:

"Walmart hasn't applied for any permits there yet because they first need to determine what repairs are needed, Sutton said. "

I thought that is what I said. You need to know the scope of the project and the location in order to address the required permits and inspections.
 
Do you have any evidence that those opportunities won't be available? Nope
What do you think "try to apply at other stores" means? Are these other stores seriously understaffed that they can absorb all these extra-employees? Or maybe Walmart is not an efficient operation that I've heard and that various stores in other areas can easily absorb dozens, and possibly hundreds of extra employees without affecting profitability/efficiency.

Strangely you don't seem to have much doubt about "we need to close the store for up to six months but we don't know what repairs are needed". This is a situation that makes smart business sense to you?

Yes, you are someone who is easily fooled.
 
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Up to six months

Again they closed the stores down without knowing what needed to be done in the first place? Surely the people who run walmart must have hired some building inspectors to inspect the walmarts in question in order to know that these stores needed repairs and on what. Because how else would they have know that these stores needed to be closed up to six months for plumbing repair. I can't imagine any walmart store managers, supervisors, cashiers, greeters, cart gatherers and other people working at those walmarts being able to make that determination.Sure some of the walmart greeters might be retired plumbers or water and sewer department guys but I seriously doubt they would spend their free time looking all over a huge store for plumbing problems for free.
 
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What do you think "try to apply at other stores" means? Are these other stores seriously understaffed that they can absorb all these extra-employees? Or maybe Walmart is not an efficient operation that I've heard and that various stores in other areas can easily absorb dozens, and possibly hundreds of extra employees without affecting profitability/efficiency.

Strangely you don't seem to have much doubt about "we need to close the store for up to six months but we don't know what repairs are needed". This is a situation that makes smart business sense to you?

Yes, you are someone who is easily fooled.
Again, do you have any evidence that they won't be able to transfer? Nope
 
Again they closed the stores down without knowing what needed to be done in the first place? Surely the people who run walmart must have hired some building inspectors to inspect the walmarts in question in order to know that these stores needed repairs and on what. Because how else would they have know that these stores needed to be closed up to six months for plumbing repair. I can't imagine any walmart store managers, supervisors, cashiers, greeters, cart gatherers and other people working at those walmarts being able to make that determination.Sure some of the walmart greeters might be retired plumbers or water and sewer department guys but I seriously doubt they would spend their free time looking all over a huge store for plumbing problems for free.
I would imagine they're doing that now
 
I would imagine they're doing that now

Wouldn't they do that before closing the store down? How else would they have came to the decision to close down the store for up to 6 months if they have yet to inspect the store? I seriously doubt on april 12 they said they needed to close down the walmarts for 6 months and april 13 closed the stores down at 7 pm. They had to think about this decision for awhile,meaning they had plenty of time for inspectors and plenty of time to get the necessary permits.
 
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Do these walmarts have the permits for the plumbing work and why would it it take six months for plumbing? I do not know about the walmarts in other states but I do know that the walmart closed in Tulsa was built only around 20 years ago.The store was built from the ground up instead of a remodel or expansion of an existing store. I can't picture plumbing work back then being so shotty it would warrant closing the store for six months.Nor can I imagine it taking 6 months to fix plumbing problems.

never done construction have you?
 
They'll have the same amount of money as if they were working, for two months. And after that they're eligible for severance if they haven't found work. That's more than fair

The two months is severance.

Workers are not 'eligible' for severene pay, it is voluntary from employers, and rarely occurs for non-exempt employees.
 
They just closed one I Houston and are blaming the plumbing on that one as well. Odd, how plumbing is a problem so wide spread and the fix appears to be the same time span for all stores. Perhaps "Mo money" is not working as planned by the $15/hr. raise folks as you have to ask,................ how much are they making now?
 
never done construction have you?

No kidding - nothing is done without permits, which require detailed blueprints and must exactly meet building codes.
 
So they had to close these stores down for 6 months without knowing what repairs are even needed?

From what I have read, no permit applications have taken place for any of the stores.

Common business sense entails securing permits beforehand, and approvals, to minimize down time and reduce lost revenue.
 
never done construction have you?

I've just finished construction on a small kitchen addition to a bar in North Carolina. The design and plans took the architect a month. The plans were submitted to the building department and plan review took a month. The construction cost was about sixty grand plus equipment and it's taken a month. This was three months for a kitchen which was roughly three hundred square feet.

That doesn't mean that I know how long it takes to work on a Walmart, especially since all I know about the scope of work is people bitching about it on the internet.
 
Wouldn't they do that before closing the store down? How else would they have came to the decision to close down the store for up to 6 months if they have yet to inspect the store? I seriously doubt on april 12 they said they needed to close down the walmarts for 6 months and april 13 closed the stores down at 7 pm. They had to think about this decision for awhile,meaning they had plenty of time for inspectors and plenty of time to get the necessary permits.
They came to the decision based on repeated plumbing problems
 
The two months is severance.

Workers are not 'eligible' for severene pay, it is voluntary from employers, and rarely occurs for non-exempt employees.
They are getting two months pay and then become eligible for the severance package
 
I make no judgments on the merits of the complaint, but such a complaint itself would be far from "non-provable." The NLRB could seek documents, electronic communications, and interviews with key personnel. That discovery process could yield evidence as to whether the complaint has merit or lacks it.

Wow....just wow....(shakes head) first they want every Walmart closed, and the Walton's stoned to death....Now they close a couple of stores, and OMG! THEY CAN'T DO THAT!!!! Really?

The stupidity abounds.
 
Wow....just wow....(shakes head) first they want every Walmart closed, and the Walton's stoned to death....Now they close a couple of stores, and OMG! THEY CAN'T DO THAT!!!! Really?

The stupidity abounds.

Just so there's no confusion, I'm not criticizing or supporting Walmart's decision. My point was that the discovery process can yield information rebutting the view that the matter in question is "unprovable." Nothing more.

IMO, perceptions notwithstanding, I don't believe one should automatically assume that Walmart is engaging in an unfair labor practice. Furthermore, even as Walmart is a popular target for criticism, the other side of the story in which the retail chain has made a wide range of goods available to people who might not otherwise have been able to afford them (improving lives), is also important. In short, if the retailer did not provide value to the marketplace, it is unlikely that it would have grown as it did since its establishment, much less survived for as long as it has.
 
They came to the decision based on repeated plumbing problems

But didn't you just post they did not know what needed to be fixed?
 
But didn't you just post they did not know what needed to be fixed?
They don't know specifically what will have to be fixed. They generally that it's a plumbing problem. Hope that helps
 
They don't know specifically what will have to be fixed. They generally that it's a plumbing problem. Hope that helps

They did not just come to the conclusion that they needed to close these walmarts on the 12th and closed them on the 13 at 7pm.So the "They generally that it's a plumbing problem" is a bull **** answer.
 
They did not just come to the conclusion that they needed to close these walmarts on the 12th and closed them on the 13 at 7pm.So the "They generally that it's a plumbing problem" is a bull **** answer.
Of course not. The stores have ongoing plumbing problems leading up to the store closings
 
They did not just come to the conclusion that they needed to close these walmarts on the 12th and closed them on the 13 at 7pm.So the "They generally that it's a plumbing problem" is a bull **** answer.

Who gives a flying crap....? It's their store....They can close any one of them they wish....Or all of them if they wish....They don't need to clear their operations decisions with you do they?
 
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