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Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

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Chris Christie vows crackdown on marijuana as president - CNN.com

Christie: Marijuana is a gateway drug. We have an enormous addiction problem in this country. And we need to send very clear leadership from the White House on down through the federal law enforcement. Marijuana is an illegal drug under federal law. And the states should not be permitted to sell it and profit from it.
The governor has long opposed both medicinal and recreational marijuana and only allowed tightly restricted use of medical marijuana in New Jersey after a very public lobbying campaign that pitted him against the father of a little girl.

I like Chris Christie, but a guy the size of a refrigerator shouldn't be talking about addiction. I'm guessing he only complains about 'big government' if Cola-Cola is what is being restricted. :lol:
 
Lol...what's next?

Bringing back prohibition?

It's 2015, not 1985...get with the times.
 
The smart thing for the Republican candidates to do is to stay away from this topic, or say it should be a state issue.
 
The feds should decriminalize marijuana and leave it up to the states to pass referendums. Right now there is a conflict though with federal laws saying it's illegal and state laws permitting it. Him trying to crack down on pot legalization really isn't much different from what Obama did with AZ when they passed the immigration bill that went against fed law (and was struck down in court when brought to trial).
 
There was a time I'd have considered voting for Christie. The bridge debacle, where he threw his staff under the bus and pretended he didn't know what was going on outside his office door, pretty much quashed that. This bit of extremist idiocy solidifies it.
 
He is a wanker, he wouldn't even OK the "Charlotte's Web" cannibis oil that helps kids with seizures, it has no THC, can't get you high, but has helped so many kids.
 
He is a wanker, he wouldn't even OK the "Charlotte's Web" cannibis oil that helps kids with seizures, it has no THC, can't get you high, but has helped so many kids.

Exactly. He's just pandering at the cost of people's health and lives. Medicinal uses for cannabis is finally being studied in earnest, and what they are discovering is nothing short of miraculous... PTSD, Multiple Sclerosis, Alzheimer's, physical brain trauma, epilepsy... amazing stuff.
 
I always love it when these clowns support barbaric laws on us. It makes him look stupid, didn't her pass the law in his own state. Is nationally THC is different then the THC in his state . This reminds me of Obama Romney care and how that clown made a stand against Obama care. What do they think it is different in a state then it is nationally. They are fools and panderers and they have no opinion that isn't created by what other people think. Democrats are controlled by conscience , regressives are controlled by the 1% and anything to do with Bible thumping and Flag waving although is bot these examples , they say it but don't live it or believe it. They just pander.
 
The feds should decriminalize marijuana and leave it up to the states to pass referendums. Right now there is a conflict though with federal laws saying it's illegal and state laws permitting it. Him trying to crack down on pot legalization really isn't much different from what Obama did with AZ when they passed the immigration bill that went against fed law (and was struck down in court when brought to trial).

He took it to court and waited until the courts decided whose power belonged to who?
 
He took it to court and waited until the courts decided whose power belonged to who?

With the AZ law? If I remember right the court said AZ law went beyond federal law and fed law trumps state law, therefore it was overturned. I could be wrong though.
 
With the AZ law? If I remember right the court said AZ law went beyond federal law and fed law trumps state law, therefore it was overturned. I could be wrong though.

Yes, I know what happened. But are you just suggesting that Christie do that? I don't think he has much of a case. Besides, Congress REALLY isn't going to back him up on this one. They've already decriminalized medical marijuana.
 
I really don't understand why he would support such a thing. Pot being illegal has been quite silly and an embarrassment for a long time and now that it's being broken down and solved I don't see why he'd plant a flag in keeping this mistake alive and campaigning on it. Perhaps this is what he thinks will differentiate him from the competition?

The war on drugs is such an ugly failure that just makes things worse I really hope Christie goes nowhere with this because if he is successful he is just going to further promote these draconian policies.
 
With the AZ law? If I remember right the court said AZ law went beyond federal law and fed law trumps state law, therefore it was overturned. I could be wrong though.

You are correct.

Over the last 10 or 12 years in fact, the Arizona legislature and former Governor Jan Brewer often thumbed their nose at Washington saying that Arizona will do as it damn well pleases and DC can kiss their butts. Their FU attitude has cost the state millions. We even have recent laws on the books declaring state's rights over several issues. Everyone except the state legislature and Brewer knew all of it was/bluster, but they did it anyway.

Of course on issues where state legislature disagrees with the public the legislature is quick to cite the state's need to adhere to federal law.

If I'm not mistaken we voted and approved medicinal marijuana three times (I think it was 3) before the state was finally forced to implement the law. The most recent time Brewer and the AG and the ultra-right legislators all claimed that the state couldn't or shouldn't implement the law because they were afraid the state employees who would oversee the program would be in grave danger of being arrested by the federal agents. Finally a judge ordered the state to cut the horsesh*t and do the People's bidding. The State finally implemented the state medicinal marijuana program a couple of years ago and there hasn't been any problem with it at all other than ultra-right politicians occasionally questioning the value of medicinal marijuana.
 
Lol...what's next?

Bringing back prohibition?

It's 2015, not 1985...get with the times.
The war on alcohol gave us organized crime.
The war on drugs has given us the international drug cartels.

What's next? Not a clue - but I'm sure some "well meaning" politician needing a platform big enough to support their massive ego will find some new vice to demonize into legislation... and votes.

One can only imagine what manner of criminal entity THAT will spawn.
 
If this is the hill on which Christie wants to plant his flag, be my guest.
 
The war on alcohol gave us organized crime.
The war on drugs has given us the international drug cartels.

What's next? Not a clue - but I'm sure some "well meaning" politician needing a platform big enough to support their massive ego will find some new vice to demonize into legislation... and votes.

One can only imagine what manner of criminal entity THAT will spawn.

I could not agree more.

One might think that politicians would not be so monumentally ignorant so as to realize that whatever helps organized crime is bad...but no.

America could virtually end organized crime overnight by federally legalizing drugs, gambling and prostitution and removing excessive taxes on all sin items (like the above plus tobacco).

As a bonus, police forces could allocate far more monies to more serious crimes, drug addicts could actually support their habits while holding a legitimate job (and paying taxes - since drugs would be SO much cheaper if legalized) AND could freely and openly admit their problem if they want help with it.

But all ignorant people just echo Mr. Garrison 'Drugs are bad, nkay' and refuse to even consider legalizing them...even though those same people think legalized alcohol (which can often be just as addicting and destructive) is great.
 
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I could not agree more.

One might think that politicians would not be so monumentally ignorant so as to realize that whatever helps organized crime is bad...but no.

America could virtually end organized crime overnight by federally legalizing drugs, gambling and prostitution and removing excessive taxes on all sin items (like the above plus tobacco).
And I didn't even mention all the black markets federal legislation has created for numerous vices the federal government doesn't like. Tobacco being one of the biggest.

It is rather ironic how this administration is doing everything in its power to make lives living hell for those states that have legalized it. Problem is, these laws represent big money for the federal government.

It's time we quit pretending this world is a utopia (let alone that it can be) and start dealing with these vices differently, with strategies that don't involve legislation, and tactics that don't involve paramilitary forces and prisons.
 
And I didn't even mention all the black markets federal legislation has created for numerous vices the federal government doesn't like. Tobacco being one of the biggest.

It is rather ironic how this administration is doing everything in its power to make lives living hell for those states that have legalized it. Problem is, these laws represent big money for the federal government.

It's time we quit pretending this world is a utopia (let alone that it can be) and start dealing with these vices differently, with strategies that don't involve legislation, and tactics that don't involve paramilitary forces and prisons.

It's a nice thought, but I now believe that most people are too stupid/weak to think for themselves on most political matters...they just think what they are told to (but convince themselves it was their idea).

Throw in religion...which is a bastion for social stagnation...and humanity is probably doomed to centuries more (at least) of staggering ignorance (assuming it survives that long).
 
It's a nice thought, but I now believe that most people are too stupid/weak to think for themselves on most political matters...they just think what they are told to (but convince themselves it was their idea).

Throw in religion...which is a bastion for social stagnation...and humanity is probably doomed to centuries more (at least) of staggering ignorance (assuming it survives that long).
Religion isn't the problem. We have these people in religion too - we call them "legalists" and their approach to religion "legalistic." They believe that as long as you follow all the rules, and there are rules for everything, then you are, or can become righteous. It's no different in the secular world; in fact the philosophy is precisely the same.
 
You cannot argue the philosophy behind legalizing booze and reefer is people will consume it so make it legal. So, taking that to the next step why legalize 100% of all stimulants, depressants mood boosters, crack, etc.? The logic is the same. It parallels making poverty against the law or out lawing not sex but the sex drive itself. Until we adopts the "shoot on site" policy for drug use it will never, never, never change.
 
Religion isn't the problem. We have these people in religion too - we call them "legalists" and their approach to religion "legalistic." They believe that as long as you follow all the rules, and there are rules for everything, then you are, or can become righteous. It's no different in the secular world; in fact the philosophy is precisely the same.

I didn't say religion IS the problem, but it supports the problem.

Religion is nothing...it's just a bunch of clubs set up by people who like to feel superior and like power. And their members are those that like to be told what to do...it make them feel safer and cozier.

Fortunately, those members (at least in the West) are slowly 'seeing the light' and leaving these clubs...but FAR too slowly, I am afraid.
 
I really haven't had much of a problem with Christie until now. Bridgegate didn't even bug me much.

I can only think this is positioning, trying to drum up support amongst his base and folks who still buy into Reefer Madness.

It's not going to work, and whoever's idea it was gave Christie bad advice.
 
You cannot argue the philosophy behind legalizing booze and reefer is people will consume it so make it legal. So, taking that to the next step why legalize 100% of all stimulants, depressants mood boosters, crack, etc.? The logic is the same. It parallels making poverty against the law or out lawing not sex but the sex drive itself. Until we adopts the "shoot on site" policy for drug use it will never, never, never change.

Lol. That's nice.
 
He's a gun banner, how the hell did he ever even get to the Red party?
 
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