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Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

Other than the propaganda that you apparently believe, perhaps you should look closer at Saudi Arabia before condemning Iran. You know, the people who actually do sponsor terrorism by Islamic Radicals.
Exactly. Saudi Arabia is the biggest sponsor of terrorism but facts will never convince our neocon and Isreal propagandist contingent of that.
 
Simpleχity;1064543284 said:
Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine


Well now. Vlad has had no qualms about supplying lethal arms to the pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine which has resulted in well over 6,000 dead and over 1,000,000 displaced.

Considering also that Putin is beginning to supply Israel arch-foe Iran with high-tech weapons systems ... the pinnacle of audacity and hypocrisy.



LOL

And Obama and his idiot advisers and lick spittle didn't see this coming.....


That says all you need to know about Obama's place in the world
 
Other than the propaganda that you apparently believe, perhaps you should look closer at Saudi Arabia before condemning Iran. You know, the people who actually do sponsor terrorism by Islamic Radicals.



You are going to have to provide a link. Many posters have made the claim in here, some have said Saudi Arabia is the "biggest sponsor" of terrorism, a highly dubious claim.

Now, if you are saying some wealthy Saudi's are independently sponsoring terrorism, maybe true. But since the claims have never been backed up by facts and been provided by less than believable posters we will need more than some dildo's blog. CIA or better.
 
Exactly. Saudi Arabia is the biggest sponsor of terrorism but facts will never convince our neocon and Isreal propagandist contingent of that.



Mornin Pos. :2wave: Both Sunni and Shia sponsor terrorism.....both follow Sharia. One is slightly more modernized than the other. One is more inclined to work with those in the West and around the rest of the planet. Iran is not that one.

While I do not stick up for the Saud and their ways. They are a bit more tolerant of those in Democracies than the Shia of Iran is. Can you say otherwise?
 
Other than the propaganda that you apparently believe, perhaps you should look closer at Saudi Arabia before condemning Iran. You know, the people who actually do sponsor terrorism by Islamic Radicals.

Ironic that you talk about propaganda, you're the only one here who is denying reality - that Iran is sponsoring terrorism.

You do it once more by referring to Saudi Arabia as "the people who actually do sponsor terrorism by Islamic Radicals", showing once more that you're in denial with Iran being the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet, or sponsoring any terrorism at all. You're essentially engaging in propaganda for the dark and backwards Iranian regime, yourself. Awesome.
 
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Exactly. Saudi Arabia is the biggest sponsor of terrorism but facts will never convince our neocon and Isreal propagandist contingent of that.

What facts are you mumbling about?
Both the Sunni Saudis and the Shiite Iranians are sponsoring terrorism, but as to the question on who is sponsoring more the answer is obvious - it's Iran.
That of course is if we go by actual facts and not the mumbo-jumbo of some declared devotees of Shiite terrorism.

US: Iran Remains Leading State Sponsor of Terrorism
 
You mean the hypocrisy of you focusing on supposed Israeli and American aggression and ignoring Russian aggression. Yeah that does happen a lot.

Heya Fletch. :2wave: Russian, Iranian, North Korean, Chinese, Terrorists.....haven't you noticed. Its always our fault. Were the Big meanies out and about the planet. All we do is cause everybody else problems. :roll:
 
Simpleχity;1064543284 said:
Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine


Well now. Vlad has had no qualms about supplying lethal arms to the pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine which has resulted in well over 6,000 dead and over 1,000,000 displaced.

Considering also that Putin is beginning to supply Israel arch-foe Iran with high-tech weapons systems ... the pinnacle of audacity and hypocrisy.



More Putin bashing.

I think Americans hate him so much because he is what the US should have as a president.

Let's face it, he is a better president for Russia than Obama is for America. You may not like what he has done, but Americans never have had respect for their enemies. Obama is a *****, pushing a ***** agenda. Putin, a hardened political veteran who has outlasted every other leader, is stronger, wiser and calls Obama's power puff threats. You haven't had so weak a president since Carter. FFS even little Stephen Harper gets more respect from Putin than the loser with lies.
 
Since Putin was never a darling of the right, clearly you poured those drinks long before you started posting.

He most certainly was, still is with some if you read this thread.

The hatred for Obama is so great on the right that many show more respect for Putin, and Putin's lies, his invasions, his assassinations, his media and internet censorship than they do for their own POTUS. Censorship? Putin wanting to rebuild his communist empire? The right should hate him with a passion, but their hatred of Obama trumps that. So don't kid yourself, he's was, and still is admired by many on the right.
 
Simpleχity;1064543284 said:
Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine


Well now. Vlad has had no qualms about supplying lethal arms to the pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine which has resulted in well over 6,000 dead and over 1,000,000 displaced.

Considering also that Putin is beginning to supply Israel arch-foe Iran with high-tech weapons systems ... the pinnacle of audacity and hypocrisy.

Putin should shut the F-up you know, he is a source of war and violence in Ukraine and his weapons have shot down a Malaysian plane with loads of my countrymen so I am very very very anti-Putin at the moment I hope Israel does sell weapons to Ukraine so that they can defend themselves from the Russian aggression.

Also, as you said, they sell weapons to Iran so if there is one country that is not allowed to comment about weapons sales to unstable/dubious government, it is Russia and it's Czar Putin.
 
Putin should shut the F-up you know, he is a source of war and violence in Ukraine and his weapons have shot down a Malaysian plane with loads of my countrymen so I am very very very anti-Putin at the moment I hope Israel does sell weapons to Ukraine so that they can defend themselves from the Russian aggression.

Also, as you said, they sell weapons to Iran so if there is one country that is not allowed to comment about weapons sales to unstable/dubious government, it is Russia and it's Czar Putin.

Oh, no, no. He is worse than that.
 
He most certainly was, still is with some if you read this thread.

The hatred for Obama is so great on the right that many show more respect for Putin, and Putin's lies, his invasions, his assassinations, his media and internet censorship than they do for their own POTUS. Censorship? Putin wanting to rebuild his communist empire? The right should hate him with a passion, but their hatred of Obama trumps that. So don't kid yourself, he's was, and still is admired by many on the right.

What do you mean Putin was never liked on the right. How much more nationalist capitalistic can you get than he is?
 
Ironic that you talk about propaganda, you're the only one here who is denying reality - that Iran is sponsoring terrorism.

You do it once more by referring to Saudi Arabia as "the people who actually do sponsor terrorism by Islamic Radicals", showing once more that you're in denial with Iran being the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet, or sponsoring any terrorism at all. You're essentially engaging in propaganda for the dark and backwards Iranian regime, yourself. Awesome.

You mean that dark and backwards regime we put in power? You do realize we are the ones that caused their regime to rise up as it did. Hell we even bragged about killing their leaders to other world powers to keep them "in check" because they were beginning to become a sovereign nation. We all know the West, and the USSR didn't enjoy it when countries tried to assert themselves post WWII.

Wahhabism is the main export of Saudi and its radical roots are the problems we are dealing with today. Not to mention the state sanction spending for promoting this particular sect of Radical Islam. I'd highly suggest reading up more on it.

I'd start here Wahhabism and go on from there. The only reason Iran was labeled for terrorism was their support from the USSR during the late 70s and 80s. The exact same reason Cuba was listed as well.

You'd think some 40+ years later we'd know better than to assume just because someone wants to be friends with another country that we disagree with their government does not make them a terrorist.
 
You mean that dark and backwards regime we put in power? You do realize we are the ones that caused their regime to rise up as it did. Hell we even bragged about killing their leaders to other world powers to keep them "in check" because they were beginning to become a sovereign nation. We all know the West, and the USSR didn't enjoy it when countries tried to assert themselves post WWII.

Wahhabism is the main export of Saudi and its radical roots are the problems we are dealing with today. Not to mention the state sanction spending for promoting this particular sect of Radical Islam. I'd highly suggest reading up more on it.

I'd start here Wahhabism and go on from there. The only reason Iran was labeled for terrorism was their support from the USSR during the late 70s and 80s. The exact same reason Cuba was listed as well.

You'd think some 40+ years later we'd know better than to assume just because someone wants to be friends with another country that we disagree with their government does not make them a terrorist.

The "it's always the West's fault" mantra is getting tiring.
It's not the West's fault and not the US's fault that the Iranian people have decided to perform an Islamic revolution.
It was the direct result of the path the Iranian society, like many other Muslim societies on this planet, had taken.
If anything the actions of the US had delayed that.

Regardless you're not getting the point here. Your refusal to recognize that Iran is responsible for countless of acts of terror against Western and non-Western targets alike is absurd.
Hezbollah is one of the largest, most brutal terror organizations out there and it answers directly to the Iranian regime. Iran manages countless of other terror proxies in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen. This is the reality that you choose to ignore. Good luck with that.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the UN Special Tribunal for Lebanon is at the moment prosecuting four members of (the Iranian proxy) Hezbollah in absentia for the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafic Hariri and the deaths of 22 others on 14 February 2005.

Iran also directed the 1983 barracks bombing in Beirut which killed 299 American and French servicemen. Iran also had a part in the 1983 bombing of the US Embassy in Beirut which killed 63 and the 1984 bombing of the US Embassy Annex in East Beirut which killed 24.

Hezbollah also murdered CIA officer William Francis Buckley in 1985 and had a hand in the 1996 Khobar Towers attack which killed 19 US servicemen and wounded 498 others.
 
Simpleχity;1064543284 said:
Putin warns Israel against selling arms to Ukraine

Well now. Vlad has had no qualms about supplying lethal arms to the pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine which has resulted in well over 6,000 dead and over 1,000,000 displaced.

Considering also that Putin is beginning to supply Israel arch-foe Iran with high-tech weapons systems ... the pinnacle of audacity and hypocrisy.
I say the Jewish State has become over accustomed to fighting weak and powerless people so that they are in for one BIG surprise when they mess with Russia and Russia's powerful President Putin.

Stealing Palestinian land and murdering the people of Palestine using American arms has made the Jewish State into an immoral fool, and I have full confidence in Russia setting things rightfully with them.
 
Simpleχity;1064543476 said:
Russia already did. Crimea has been Ukrainian land for 60 years.

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry...
 
Only that you're drawing a comparison here between committing a preemptive strike against the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet that directly manages proxy terror organizations that carry massacres throughout the planet and aspires to gain nuclear weapons while calling for the destruction of other nations, and between committing an act of aggression against what... ****ing Denmark?

Right.



Defend themselves how, by massacring innocents around the globe in the name of Shia Islam through proxy organizations?
Perhaps by threatening to annihilate other nations?
And how exactly is the murder of innocents in the name of a sect of Islam and its geopolitical goals not terrorism, do elaborate on that since you claim that the Iranian government are not engaging in terrorism.



If you fail to recognize the irony in Putin asking Israel not to arm Ukraine when he arms Syria, Iran, and pretty much every single individual with an ill intention out there, then that's entirely your problem.

I would call it hypocrisy instead of irony, whatever.

Yes, Russia is in the arms business too, I know that already. So is Israel and so are we and so are South Africa and many of the NATO countries.
 
The "it's always the West's fault" mantra is getting tiring.
It's not the West's fault and not the US's fault that the Iranian people have decided to perform an Islamic revolution.
It was the direct result of the path the Iranian society, like many other Muslim societies on this planet, had taken.
If anything the actions of the US had delayed that.

Regardless you're not getting the point here. Your refusal to recognize that Iran is responsible for countless of acts of terror against Western and non-Western targets alike is absurd.
Hezbollah is one of the largest, most brutal terror organizations out there and it answers directly to the Iranian regime. Iran manages countless of other terror proxies in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen. This is the reality that you choose to ignore. Good luck with that.

It is getting old, I agree, but we need to stop messing with their governments. Until that happens and we actually admit we messed up over in that region for well over 60 years. We are never going to be rid of the extremists we helped create.

We choose to oust the Shah of Iran and allowed radicals to come to power. The fact you think we don't bear responsibility for what has happened over there is appalling. It shows a lack of knowledge of history and really once you realize all of the mistakes we made you'll accept that our only way to fix the problem is to remove ourselves from the situation.
 
I say the Jewish State has become over accustomed to fighting weak and powerless people so that they are in for one BIG surprise when they mess with Russia and Russia's powerful President Putin.

Stealing Palestinian land and murdering the people of Palestine using American arms has made the Jewish State into an immoral fool, and I have full confidence in Russia setting things rightfully with them.
I think its partly the US's fault, we have been enabling Isreal far too much and our Congressmen openly siding with them in the Iran nuclear talks just shows how much we are biased.
 
It is getting old, I agree, but we need to stop messing with their governments. Until that happens and we actually admit we messed up over in that region for well over 60 years. We are never going to be rid of the extremists we helped create.

How did the US help create the Islamic revolution, pray tell.

We choose to oust the Shah of Iran and allowed radicals to come to power. The fact you think we don't bear responsibility for what has happened over there is appalling.

What on Earth are you talking about? The US didn't choose to oust the Shah, the Shah was a US imposed administration and the US did not want to see it gone, but the Islamic revolution led by Khomeinei and the protests were going to see the Shah ousted and Khomeinei's regime installed regardless of whether the US had decided to abandon it or not.

It shows a lack of knowledge of history and really once you realize all of the mistakes we made you'll accept that our only way to fix the problem is to remove ourselves from the situation.

It's extremely absurd to believe that without an American involvement the region would have been rid of radical Islamists.
 
I would call it hypocrisy instead of irony, whatever.

Yes, Russia is in the arms business too, I know that already. So is Israel and so are we and so are South Africa and many of the NATO countries.

Yes and the very merit of this thread is this Russian hypocrisy that you've mentioned, so I don't see what's your point here.
 
Fury in Russia as Israel declines to send high-level official to WWII commemoration

Israel has now declined to send any high level official to Moscow for Russia's May 9 extravaganza celebrating the 70th anniversary of the defeat of the WWII Nazi regime. Attendance will be limited solely to Israel's ambassador to Russia. Many Western nations have also declined to send a high level dignitary to Moscow in protest of Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea and supporting pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine with troops, arms, and munitions.

Israel had remained neutral over Crimea and Ukraine partly due to its large ethnic-Russian Jewish community. But now that Putin has chosen to ship weapons to Iran, Israel's relationship with Russia is deteriorating.
 
That's too bad that Iranian defense is seen as a complication for Israel. It seems to me that folk are complaining about Russian opposition to NATO defense systems.

That's too bad that Ukrainian defense is seen as a complication for Russia.
 
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