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Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port, Raising Fears Of Escalating Conflict With Saudi Arabia

April 18 2015

Iran is sending a small armada of naval vessels toward Yemen, sparking concern among U.S. defense officials that a naval conflict between Iran and Saudi Arabia could escalate the Yemen conflict from a proxy war into a full-scale international conflict, according to media reports.
The convoy of nine ships which reportedly includes an Iranian destroyer, could be attempting to ferry weapons to the Houthi rebels in Yemen. Iran says this convoy is part of an anti-piracy campaign. On April 1, a US Navy warship consenually boarded a Panamanian cargo ship bound for Yemen. An Iranian ship currently docked in Oman is being watched for signs of weapons-transfer. There are Egyptian and Pakistani warships patrolling the waters off Yemen. It is unknown what may happens if the Iranian convoy attempts to dock in Yemen.
 
Simpleχity;1064540809 said:
Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port, Raising Fears Of Escalating Conflict With Saudi Arabia


The convoy of nine ships which reportedly includes an Iranian destroyer, could be attempting to ferry weapons to the Houthi rebels in Yemen. Iran says this convoy is part of an anti-piracy campaign. On April 1, a US Navy warship consenually boarded a Panamanian cargo ship bound for Yemen. An Iranian ship currently docked in Oman is being watched for signs of weapons-transfer. There are Egyptian and Pakistani warships patrolling the waters off Yemen. It is unknown what may happens if the Iranian convoy attempts to dock in Yemen.

This might make some understand why the Iranian bomb is of such interest to others.
 
Simpleχity;1064540809 said:
Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port, Raising Fears Of Escalating Conflict With Saudi Arabia


The convoy of nine ships which reportedly includes an Iranian destroyer, could be attempting to ferry weapons to the Houthi rebels in Yemen. Iran says this convoy is part of an anti-piracy campaign. On April 1, a US Navy warship consenually boarded a Panamanian cargo ship bound for Yemen. An Iranian ship currently docked in Oman is being watched for signs of weapons-transfer. There are Egyptian and Pakistani warships patrolling the waters off Yemen. It is unknown what may happens if the Iranian convoy attempts to dock in Yemen.


Mornin Simplexity. :2wave: The Destroyer was seen Wednesday with another ship.....having it there Iran is flexing some muscle. In the meantime we joined in by refueling the Saud's Coalition of planes. Egypt has offered to put troops on the ground and AQ has become vocal too.



SANAA, Yemen (AP) — Iran dispatched a destroyer and another naval ship to waters off Yemen on Wednesday, raising the stakes amid a Saudi-led air campaign targeting Iranian-backed Shiite rebels fighting forces loyal to the country's embattled president.

On Wednesday, al-Qaida in Yemen, a staunch rival of the Houthis, posted a video offering a bounty of 44 pounds (20 kilograms) of gold for whoever captures or kills the rebel leader and his prime ally in Yemen, ousted president Saleh.

Along with the ongoing military campaign, Arab countries have lobbied members of the U.N. Security Council to adopt a draft resolution that would ban arms shipments to the rebels and their allies. The draft calls on all parties to resolve their differences through dialogue and accelerate U.N.-brokered negotiations on a political transition.....snip~

Iran sends navy vessels to waters off Yemen, raising stakes - The Killeen Daily Herald: Associated Press
 
The Saudi coalition has severely degraded or destroyed most major airports in Yemen. To resupply her proxy Houthi forces, the only viable option remaining to Iran is via ships.

This could get ugly fast if the Iranian ships attempt to break the coalition blockade.
 
Simpleχity;1064541096 said:
The Saudi coalition has severely degraded or destroyed most major airports in Yemen. To resupply her proxy Houthi forces, the only viable option remaining to Iran is via ships.

This could get ugly fast if the Iranian ships attempt to break the coalition blockade.



The Saud has responded back.....the Pakistani will help hold the blockade, as they already had two ships in the area. The Egyptians have ships as well.

AQ putting a bounty on Selah's head was the other twist to the story.




Pakistan agrees to send ships to block arms shipments to Yemen rebels.....

Yielding to pressure from staunch ally Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has agreed to help an Arab military coalition enforce an arms embargo against Houthi rebels in Yemen and is expected to announce the deployment of navy warships to the busy commercial shipping lanes off Yemen’s coast. In a statement posted late Thursday, the office of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said a high-powered Pakistani delegation had “affirmed to the Saudi leadership that Pakistan would fully participate and contribute to the implementation” of the arms embargo, which was set in place Wednesday by a United Nations Security Council resolution.

The U.N. Security Council approved the resolution, proposed by Qatar, a member of the Saudi-led coalition, after Russia, an ally of Iran in Middle East politics, abstained.

Pakistan’s naval contribution to the arms embargo against Houthi rebels in Yemen is an easy option, because two warships already are deployed in Indian Ocean waters near Yemen as part of multinational task forces patrolling the area to interdict al Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula militants and pirates based in the Horn of Africa.

Read more here: ISLAMABAD: Pakistan agrees to send ships to block arms shipments to Yemen rebels | Afghanistan & Pakistan | McClatchy DC
 
Smelling like a full blown proxy war.

Our "allies" in the region need live fire training just as much as we do. Actually, having worked with the Saudi's before, they need it a lot more than we do.

If anyone has an interest in the Region, then having them actively participate is a good thing. It is their region after all. Even third string players need playing time and considering the level of the competition, why should we put in the 1st team players?
 
Proxy? We could hardly let the Saudis stand alone.

sure we can. they leave us standing alone all of the time when there are conflicts in the Americas. what are they doing to help us with the drug gangs that have taken over large areas in Mexico?
 
Our "allies" in the region need live fire training just as much as we do. Actually, having worked with the Saudi's before, they need it a lot more than we do.

If anyone has an interest in the Region, then having them actively participate is a good thing. It is their region after all. Even third string players need playing time and considering the level of the competition, why should we put in the 1st team players?

Air time to where the ports /ships are from Saudi should not take long, if needed.
 
Air time to where the ports /ships are from Saudi should not take long, if needed.

Yeah I was thinking of that to, JF. :2wave: The Iranians won't have no Air Cover for their ships.
 
Air time to where the ports /ships are from Saudi should not take long, if needed.

It's not just the Iranians that they have to worry about. That Irish Bastard Murphy can be a real pain in the ass too. The experience should do them good.
 
It's not just the Iranians that they have to worry about. That Irish Bastard Murphy can be a real pain in the ass too. The experience should do them good.
Took a minute to catch that one. lol
Yes, Murphy's law is everywhere.
 
Yeah I was thinking of that to, JF. :2wave: The Iranians won't have no Air Cover for their ships.

Saudi's buy the best kit but no experience.
Taking the battle to Yemen in certain areas they will do fine.
Now city block to block, no experience.
And stay away from the mountains.

Detailed Terrain Map of Yemen
 
Saudi's buy the best kit but no experience.
Taking the battle to Yemen in certain areas they will do fine.
Now city block to block, no experience.
And stay away from the mountains.

Detailed Terrain Map of Yemen



Well the Egyptians know how to mop up, a little bit. And I don't think they will back down from any Iranian ships. They have said they will put troops on the Ground in Yemen.
 
Yeah I was thinking of that to, JF. :2wave: The Iranians won't have no Air Cover for their ships.

Looks like that destroyer probably carries four anti-aircraft missiles that are a copy of the early version of our Standard. Considering that U.S. destroyers carry something like 60-80 of the much more advanced version, that is awfully thin air defense. And Iran's destroyer probably has even less defense against advanced anti-ship missiles and torpedos. Iran would not have dared deploy ships like this if we had a real president. Even conspicuously diverting a single U.S. attack submarine to the waters near Yemen might have made it seem too risky. But the Islamist thugs in Tehran know they have nothing to fear from President Neville.
 
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Looks like that destroyer probably carries four anti-aircraft missiles that are a copy of the early version of our Standard. Considering that U.S. destroyers carry something like 60-80 of the much more advanced version, that is awfully thin air defense. And Iran's destroyer probably has even less defense against advanced anti-ship missiles and torpedos. Iran would not have dared deploy ships like this if we had a real president. Even conspicuously diverting a single U.S. attack submarine to the waters near Yemen might have made it seem too risky. But the Islamist thugs in Tehran know they have nothing to fear from President Neville.


Heya Matchlight. :2wave: Was there a pic of it being shown? I think we could pick it up and let whoever know where it is at.
 
sure we can. they leave us standing alone all of the time when there are conflicts in the Americas. what are they doing to help us with the drug gangs that have taken over large areas in Mexico?

The Saudis have both the Egyptians and the Pakistanis helping them. They shouldn't need us.
 
Looks like that destroyer probably carries four anti-aircraft missiles that are a copy of the early version of our Standard. Considering that U.S. destroyers carry something like 60-80 of the much more advanced version, that is awfully thin air defense. And Iran's destroyer probably has even less defense against advanced anti-ship missiles and torpedos. Iran would not have dared deploy ships like this if we had a real president. Even conspicuously diverting a single U.S. attack submarine to the waters near Yemen might have made it seem too risky. But the Islamist thugs in Tehran know they have nothing to fear from President Neville.

Do we have to get involved in every frickin' dispute in the Middle East? Why is this our problem and why is it Barack Obama's job to put American service people in harm's way? To satisfy the egos of the Chicken Hawks?
 
The Saudis have both the Egyptians and the Pakistanis helping them. They shouldn't need us.

Heya Wiggen :2wave: We have jumped in to help with some refueling of their planes and some Recon. BO is sending some aid to them. That's about as far as he is going to go.
 
Heya Wiggen :2wave: We have jumped in to help with some refueling of their planes and some Recon. BO is sending some aid to them. That's about as far as he is going to go.

And as far as he should.
Yemen has been a crap hole for how many decades.
Let them kill each other, and we stay away.
 
sure we can. they leave us standing alone all of the time when there are conflicts in the Americas. what are they doing to help us with the drug gangs that have taken over large areas in Mexico?

You want the Saudis to help the US with drug cartels in Mexico and South America?



Are the drug cartels as much a threat to them as terrorism is to the US?
 
And as far as he should.
Yemen has been a crap hole for how many decades.
Let them kill each other, and we stay away.


Well he has enough to deal with already and can't handle that let alone much anything else. Moreover he has his own Sec of Def saying we don't have intel ops running like we use to.

There is also that issue of us giving Selah immunity. I don't think BO wants to remind others of that.
 
And as far as he should.
Yemen has been a crap hole for how many decades.
Let them kill each other, and we stay away.

Here in Vancouver the police have developed a very effective way of eliminating occupations: put a fence around them, let anyone out, and no one and nothing in.


The US, France, Canada, Britain and NATO should create a air/naval corridor around the middle east, if it flies or floats and has weapons, shoot it.

Then let Allah sort it out.
 
Proxy? We could hardly let the Saudis stand alone.

Russia and maybe China supporting Iran while we support the Saudis. Lots of interested parties here.
 
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