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Iran Sends Ships Toward Blockaded Yemen Port...

Of course I do not want U.S. servicemen fighting anyone, anywhere. The best way to make sure they never have to is to maintain a very strong military

The US military expenditure is still the highest in the developed countries and spends more than the next 7 countries combined (this includes China and Russia)

That's $610 billion in 2014 compared to $216 billion in China and $84 billion in Russia.

make clear we will use it if necessary. The Islamist thugs in Tehran are acting aggressively exactly because of this president's weakness--he has spent six years inviting their aggression.

Do you want the US to be the World's policeman or not? I read many American posters saying no but here, you seem to be arguing for an interventionist policy.
 
Not all Iranians participate in that bull**** you mention, anymore than all Americans participate in some of the similarly stupid rallies and protests held right here. Do you not understand that the majority of Iranians are pro-American. Why is the right determined to turn the Iranian public against America, hmm? Not enough enemies to keep the MIC humming.


AND that would mean something if Iran wasn't a theocratic dictator ship
 
Oh dear! Thankfully they keep you far away from USFP.
I had a Top Secret security clearance with a background investigation which is the second highest clearance you can get so I was cleared to handle nuclear weapons but the need never came up. I was assigned to a TS program in Thailand but I can only tell you about it if you promise to kill yourself.
 
Getting the hell out of there certainly was an achievement worth touting. Bolstering a Shia/Iranian dictatorship led by an genocidal maniac is hardly worthy of American blood. Can you imagine if we were on the ground their now in the middle of that cluster****? Let them save their own asses instead of shooting at ours.

Sorry that is not what Biden or Obama was touting. As you well know. That is how stupid Obama and Biden are for pulling out of Iraq and letting it go burn in flames.

Yes I can imagine if Obama left troops in Iraq, it would surly not the cluster**** it is today.
 
Sorry that is not what Biden or Obama was touting. As you well know. That is how stupid Obama and Biden are for pulling out of Iraq and letting it go burn in flames.

Yes I can imagine if Obama left troops in Iraq, it would surly not the cluster**** it is today.

And that butcher Malliki would still be murdering Sunni's and the insurgents would be blowing off our soldiers legs daily. Sounds like heaven. How many American lives and legs would that be worth to you?
 

They were only completing what Bush started and signed an agreement to withdraw.. It was not their fault that Bush started a cluster**** in the entire M.E. I still believe that getting us out was a great achiievement and it fulfilled his promise to voters. The govt. that Bush left there was corrupt and genocidal, not worthy of any more American lives lost.
 
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This could get ugly fast if the Iranian ships attempt to break the coalition blockade.

Obungle would probably call for the coalition to stand down and let Iran resupply their proxy army.
 
And that butcher Malliki would still be murdering Sunni's and the insurgents would be blowing off our soldiers legs daily. Sounds like heaven. How many American lives and legs would that be worth to you?

Instead, we have an uber-radical terrorist group:
-executing people on video
-destroying irreplaceable historical documents/sites
-murdering untold numbers of people because they don't worship the same God or don't worship the same God the same way
-raping women and children and/or selling them off as sex toys to their horny warriors.
 
I had a Top Secret security clearance with a background investigation which is the second highest clearance you can get so I was cleared to handle nuclear weapons but the need never came up. I was assigned to a TS program in Thailand but I can only tell you about it if you promise to kill yourself.

Don't need to know that bad.
 
Instead, we have an uber-radical terrorist group:
-executing people on video
-destroying irreplaceable historical documents/sites
-murdering untold numbers of people because they don't worship the same God or don't worship the same God the same way
-raping women and children and/or selling them off as sex toys to their horny warriors.

The leaders of ISIS learned their trade fighting the U.S. occupiers in Iraq that Bush put there. You can thank him for ISIS too. They began their quest in SYRIA and we would have done nothing to stop them from rising, even if we still were losing troops in Iraq daily. The funny thing about violence is that it begets more violence.
 
Don't worry Obama will not do anything when Iran docks and unloads ships full of weapons.

Iran has claimed that they have ships in the region to protect Iranian merchant vessel lanes, something they've done since at least 2008. Guess what reason the US gave for having ships in the region? Yep, for the very same reason, to keep shipping lanes open. :roll:
 
They were only completing what Bush started and signed an agreement to withdraw.. It was not their fault that Bush started a cluster**** in the entire M.E. I still believe that getting us out was a great achiievement and it fulfilled his promise to voters. The govt. that Bush left there was corrupt and genocidal, not worthy of any more American lives lost.

Your spin is worthless, Bush left Obama a won war that both he and Biden was high five'n each other as Iraq was a great achievement for the the administration. I never heard one word that the great achievement was pulling out of Iraq. Quitting is easy, how do you call quitting and pulling out of Iraq a great achievement. In the school yard you would say I'm taking my ball and going home. Quitter. As for promises to voters he also promised you could keep your DR and your heath plan, he promised to close Club Getmo, he promised to get out of Afghanistan way before now. I could go on and on with false promises and lies by Obama.
 
Iran has claimed that they have ships in the region to protect Iranian merchant vessel lanes, something they've done since at least 2008. Guess what reason the US gave for having ships in the region? Yep, for the very same reason, to keep shipping lanes open. :roll:

Good to know that Obama has sent a fleet of our war ships to protect Iran's war ships shipping arms to Yemen. Iran should have no trouble getting to Yemen and unloading arms, now should they.
 
Your spin is worthless, Bush left Obama a won war that both he and Biden was high five'n each other as Iraq was a great achievement for the the administration. I never heard one word that the great achievement was pulling out of Iraq. Quitting is easy, how do you call quitting and pulling out of Iraq a great achievement. In the school yard you would say I'm taking my ball and going home. Quitter. As for promises to voters he also promised you could keep your DR and your heath plan, he promised to close Club Getmo, he promised to get out of Afghanistan way before now. I could go on and on with false promises and lies by Obama.

Bush left Obama a signed agreement to withdraw from Iraq and withdraw we did. You may like wasting American lives on lost causes but the majority voted for someone who would stop the bloodletting of Americans. Thank Obama for that, far too many lives were lost or destroyed by that ludicrous and illegal war. The unrest it created will plague the M.E. for generations and all we can do is say we are sorry.
 
Bush left Obama a signed agreement to withdraw from Iraq and withdraw we did. You may like wasting American lives on lost causes but the majority voted for someone who would stop the bloodletting of Americans. Thank Obama for that, far too many lives were lost or destroyed by that ludicrous and illegal war. The unrest it created will plague the M.E. for generations and all we can do is say we are sorry.

Your right that is all we can say now that we are sorry that Obama pulled out all the troops and left Iraq defenseless to be taken over by ISIS. Further we're sorry that by Obama quitting and pulling out left the entire ME become in flames.
 
Your right that is all we can say now that we are sorry that Obama pulled out all the troops and left Iraq defenseless to be taken over by ISIS. Further we're sorry that by Obama quitting and pulling out left the entire ME become in flames.

Dear Iraqi people,
Were sorry for invading you, killing 100,000 of you AND making your lives worse. That is what we got for our 2 Triilion $, 20,000 maimed and 5000 dead. We made the Iraqi's lives worse than under Saddam. I know you are proud of that. Who would have thought we were capable of such horror. Bush rewrote the book...
 
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Dear Iraqi people, Were sorry for invading you, killing 100,000 of you AND making your lives worse. That is what we got for our 2 Triilion $, 20,000 maimed and 5000 dead. We made the Iraqi's lives worse than under Saddam. I know you are proud of that. Who would have thought we were capable of such horror. Bush rewrote the book...
The only people who think that we killed 100,000 Iraqis are liberals fools who hate America so much that they will believe that our military raped and murdered every man , woman a goat that they got their hands on. Most of the dead in Iraq were killed by our Iraqis who didn't like the tribe of the other Iraqis. That happens to be the same reason that the fighting is still going on in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, etc.

We removed one of the worst tyrants of the modern age and gave the Iraqis the freed to vote but a minority still wants to use violence to control the majority.
 
The only people who think that we killed 100,000 Iraqis are liberals fools who hate America so much that they will believe that our military raped and murdered every man , woman a goat that they got their hands on. Most of the dead in Iraq were killed by our Iraqis who didn't like the tribe of the other Iraqis. That happens to be the same reason that the fighting is still going on in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, etc.

We removed one of the worst tyrants of the modern age and gave the Iraqis the freed to vote but a minority still wants to use violence to control the majority.

Wrong. Now the majority wants to eliminate the minority, and we were supposed to stand guard while they murdered them. Who cares who killed those 100,000, most would be alive if we hadn't invaded them and started a civil war.. Maliki was installed with our blessing and military help against Sadr. He was our handpicked and vetted "President" and like everything about our invasion was a total failure as a leader and a genocidal maniac to boot. He purged the Sunni's from the army and turned it into a Shia militia that would not defend Sunni areas from attack by ISIS.
 
because my country is expected to be the world's pro bono police force. most people don't even accept that it hasn't worked. meanwhile, other first world countries spend money on things like health care that actually do good. you'd be a bit pissed off, too.

****, you take tons of flak if you even suggest that we don't enter a war (unless it's in Africa.) you get compared to Neville Chamberlain, because every potential enemy is Hitler (except in Africa.) and those who want constant war aren't even willing to pay more in taxes to fund it. they want to fund it by cutting our social safety nets.

now we're expected to have a dick measuring contest with Russia while fighting IS. this will be done with no tax increases, and if we have to get in bed with Assad, we just won't talk about that part, even though he used WMDs on his own people. meanwhile, Saudi Arabia will play a minimal role in the fight, just like they always do, even though this cluster**** is in their backyard. IMO, the best thing that we can do is to pull all of our troops out of that region for thirty years and let it stabilize. let the regional hegemons do their job, while we nation build here.

am i pissed off? yes, because it's infuriating, and i don't want the next generation to be sent off to police the Middle East at the whim of some asshole politician with no skin in the game. i'd rather that my kid not have to worry about going bankrupt when his kid falls out of a tree and breaks his arm.

Not sure I agree with everything here but I think this is the most passionate I've ever seen you buddy, so

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