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Deal Reached on Fast-Track Authority for Obama on Trade Pact

Centrist???!?!??! ^^^^LOL^^^^.

Obama is the whiny sniveling American apologist and chief, bowing to and sucking up to the worlds worst scum bag dictators and ruling bodies. He is a globalist that is embarrassed, shamed and resentful of US supremacy and success. This is part of his active policy to knock America down to the same level other countries..........and he is willing to achieve his goal on the backs of the American worker.

PS, quit whining, you voted for this.

Yes a centrist. A very big centrist. Just because your views are either so far right, or much of the republican party has moved so far right does not mean Obama is some "far left wing leftist" as many in the Tea Party have made him out to be. I mean for ****s sake he promotes many of the policies of ****ing Reagan...
 
Yes a centrist. A very big centrist. Just because your views are either so far right, or much of the republican party has moved so far right does not mean Obama is some "far left wing leftist" as many in the Tea Party have made him out to be. I mean for ****s sake he promotes many of the policies of ****ing Reagan...

Name ONE President who has been left of Obama? And supporting data and examples.

You are obviously just ashamed and embarrassed for having supported and voted for that worthless narcissistic lying empty suit.....TWICE
 
Yes a centrist. A very big centrist. Just because your views are either so far right, or much of the republican party has moved so far right does not mean Obama is some "far left wing leftist" as many in the Tea Party have made him out to be. I mean for ****s sake he promotes many of the policies of ****ing Reagan...

I think Chomsky says it best.

 
Name ONE President who has been left of Obama? And supporting data and examples.
Easy FDR. Massive publics works program, introducing one of the most progressive VP's of all time Henry Wallace, introduced a second bill of rights which essentially promoted social democracy in America but unfortunately died before it had a chance.

You are obviously just ashamed and embarrassed for having supported and voted for that worthless narcissistic lying empty suit.....TWICE
Meh. I would say I voted for Obama. Never really been impressed with him, or "excited". If you mean "ashamed" as I will criticize the man, I mean either way I would be criticizing if McCain won or Romney won. They are clear corporatists.

I mean for ****s sake, if Obama is some "far left" President, then ****, Eisenhower might as well be "far left" as well.
 
Easy FDR. Massive publics works program, introducing one of the most progressive VP's of all time Henry Wallace, introduced a second bill of rights which essentially promoted social democracy in America but unfortunately died before it had a chance.

Hhhhhmmmmmmm....ssssuuuurrrrreeeee. Was FDR 'left' enough for you?
 
Ahh yea loss of jobs for Americans, and specifically American manufacturing. Damn "lefties"! Those damn "leftie" jobs are off to China, Vietnam, and Malaysia, because those places are known to make such great, high quality products! Its not like in 2007 millions of product items were recalled. Such great products made there, from the finest 12 year olds!

I never said China made high quality manufactured products, only that they we of comparable quality to those products built by high cost unionised US Labor. In the end, I would rather support those trying to recover from Socialism than those trying to force Socialism down my throat.

The only reason for anyone in the US to fear competition is because they know they are losers who cannot compete. Those who support Liberalism and other forms of socialism in the US fear competition because they are losers. Others simply accept the challenge and work to meet it.
 
sorry, i don't agree. before environmental regulations, creeks were catching on fire. **** that.

Apparently you don't understand that when I speak against the greenie-weenies and environmentalist political agenda that I am not against reasonable and firmly provable environmental protections. However, there is nothing "reasonable" about the EPA.

Not dumping chemicals into the water is reasonable. However, many of their agendas are not reasonable but socialistic in intention. Such as the clean air act and the EPAs push for government control of all fresh water.

The clean air act is so screwed up that it is illegal to change your vehicle to cleaner fuels or even to electric because it "alters the fuel system" and associated environmental equipment. It gives a means to enforce a "government knows best" ideology and cripples individual efforts of innovation.

If you ever worked in a safety office, then you would also realise that OSHA doesn't just enforce reasonable, common sense safety but creates metric tons of useless paperwork to show that a company has trained stupid people not to be stupid and to hold companies responsible should someone stupid do something stupid on the companies properties. In other words, it is not about safety, but about exerting greater government control.
 
there should be no free trade agreements with countries that don't adopt the OSHA and pollution controls that our own businesses are saddled with. if we're exporting those jobs, we should be exporting first world labor rights along with them. otherwise, it just isn't fair.

Agree and we should also require a right to organize labor and a reasonably representative/democratic government.
 
Why is Obama championing it?

Because in the end on most things, there's a dimes thickness in difference between the elephant and the ass. You do know that the GOP is all about TPP, right?
 
Global trade deals are the first step in that direction. If American see depressed wages because jobs are being farmed out to the global poor who are living on less a couple dollars a day, yeah that will really suck for us Americans, but that goes a long way to fixing the global wealth disparity, and it's far better than living in an isolated world of haves and have-nots who are at each other's throats fighting over scarcity.

That's all fine and good and sounds great, but the fact is the people negotiating these trade deals don't give the slightest damn about any of that. These are agreements negotiated by global behemoths and their representatives, in secret, to serve their interests, period. These are deals by and for the top 1/10th of 1%. Bottom line is I don't believe a word of any of the lofty goals. We'll pass TPP because the people who own the country and the politicians want it and it helps the elites capture a growing share of the global income and wealth. That's all anyone needs to really know. And that this whole process has been done behind closed means we won't like what comes out of it.

For that reason, I'm asking those who represent me to vote against this deal. They're job is to represent us here in the U.S. Other countries have leadership that serves THEIR interests.


Foreign firms should not be using stolen intellectual rights in the first place. Just because they're protected right now by being outside the jurisdiction of certain courts doesn't put them in the right.

Regardless I believe I read the pharmaceuticals were given a exemption in certain cases.

The problem is we don't really know since this is all in secret and even our own Congress isn't allowed to see the details. Parts have been leaked but that's about it.
 
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