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Police and "Free Range" Children

Dovkan

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This is ridiculous.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...fabc310_story.html?postshare=7531429036953332
A D.C-based law firm will file suit and pursue “all legal remedies” to protect the rights of the Maryland parents whose two young children were taken into custody for more than five hours Sunday after someone reported them as they made their way home unsupervised from a Silver Spring park, the firm said Tuesday.

Danielle and Alexander Meitiv were “rightfully outraged by the irresponsible actions” of Maryland Child Protective Services and Montgomery County police, said attorney Matthew Dowd, of the firm Wiley Rein, in a written statement.

“We must ask ourselves how we reached the point where a parent’s biggest fear is that government officials will literally seize our children off the streets as they walk in our neighborhoods,” he said.

[Column: Welcome to this parenting police state]

Dowd was not immediately available for comment Tuesday, but said through a spokeswoman that the firm would file the legal action “soon.” He declined to say through the spokeswoman who the suit is being filed against. The firm is representing the family pro bono.

Md. 'free-range' parents investigated(2:19)
Danielle and Alexander Meitiv let their children, 10 and six, walk home alone from a park a mile away from their house. Now, Montgomery County is investigating the couple for child neglect. (Jorge Ribas/The Washington Post)
The Meitivs’ children were picked up by police as they walked home from Ellsworth Park at 5 p.m. Sunday. Their parents had expected them home by 6 p.m. and Danielle Meitiv said they frantically searched for Rafi, 10, and Dvora, 6, before being notified at 8 p.m. that CPS had the children.

The statement issued Tuesday said the children were three blocks from their house when they were stopped by officers in three squad cars and “subjected to a terrifying detainment that no child should have to experience.”

“Shockingly, the Meitiv children experienced this maltreatment at the hands of the very government officials who are entrusted to uphold the law and ensure that children in need are taken care of,” it said.

The Meitivs are believers in a “free range” style of parenting, which holds that children learn to be self-reliant by progressively testing limits and being allowed to roam the world without hovering adults.

The statement alleged that the pair were detained in a police car for almost three hours, kept from their parents for over six hours without access to food, and “not returned to the parents until almost midnight on the night before school.”

In an interview with The Washington Post, Danielle Meitiv said that her son told her the children were misled into believing police would take them home. Police had all the Meitivs’ contact information and did not call the parents, or allow the children to call their parents, the statement alleges.

Danielle Meitiv said that she and her husband arrived at a CPS crisis center at 8:30 p.m. and were allowed to see their children at 10:30 p.m. and take them home. Meitiv said the family had to sign papers saying the children would not be unattended while CPS followed up on the case.

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Montgomery County police said Monday that a call came in to check on the children’s welfare shortly before 5 p.m. and that an officer found the children in a parking garage. Police said an officer saw a “homeless subject” who was “eyeing the children.”

Police said the officer notified CPS, as is required in circumstances involving possible child abuse or neglect. After a series of calls, police say the children were left at CPS at 7:43 p.m. Police said the officer followed the direction of CPS in the matter.

CPS officials would not answer direct questions Monday, but issued a statement saying that “protecting children is the agency’s number one priority. We are required to follow up on all calls to Child Protective Services and will continue to work in the best interest of all children.”

The Sunday episode followed an earlier incident when the Meitiv children were picked up by police as they walked home from a different Silver Spring park, about a mile from their home. In both instances, callers reported the children to police.

In the earlier case, the parents were held responsible for “unsubstantiated neglect” and informed that CPS would keep a file on the family for at least five years.
 
Now that's a nanny state.
 
"Free range"?! It is sad we have to coin a word for something nearly every family used to do. When I was 10 and my brother was six we would take off on our own for hours at a time, going to the park, riding our bikes MUCH further than a mile, exploring the woods in our neighborhoods. We would come home dirty and sweaty and, yes, occasionally scraped up. I wouldn't trade those experiences for anything.

My younger brother wasn't allowed to take off like that by himself but he certainly could with me. Hell, I think we did it when he was 5 and I was 9 even.
 
"Free range"?! It is sad we have to coin a word for something nearly every family used to do. When I was 10 and my brother was six we would take off on our own for hours at a time, going to the park, riding our bikes MUCH further than a mile, exploring the woods in our neighborhoods. We would come home dirty and sweaty and, yes, occasionally scraped up. I wouldn't trade those experiences for anything.

My younger brother wasn't allowed to take off like that by himself but he certainly could with me. Hell, I think we did it when he was 5 and I was 9 even.

It is sad.
 
"Free range"?! It is sad we have to coin a word for something nearly every family used to do. When I was 10 and my brother was six we would take off on our own for hours at a time, going to the park, riding our bikes MUCH further than a mile, exploring the woods in our neighborhoods. We would come home dirty and sweaty and, yes, occasionally scraped up. I wouldn't trade those experiences for anything.

My younger brother wasn't allowed to take off like that by himself but he certainly could with me. Hell, I think we did it when he was 5 and I was 9 even.

Same here. We woke up, had breakfast, then headed out. Came home for lunch and headed out again. Came home for dinner then went out again until it was too dark. By the way, I ran with scissors as well.
 
Same here. We woke up, had breakfast, then headed out. Came home for lunch and headed out again. Came home for dinner then went out again until it was too dark. By the way, I ran with scissors as well.

****, I used to go miles from my house, the forest near my house leads to the highway, used to walk to the highway all the time when I was 10-11. X.D.
 
"Free range"?! It is sad we have to coin a word for something nearly every family used to do. When I was 10 and my brother was six we would take off on our own for hours at a time, going to the park, riding our bikes MUCH further than a mile, exploring the woods in our neighborhoods. We would come home dirty and sweaty and, yes, occasionally scraped up. I wouldn't trade those experiences for anything.

My younger brother wasn't allowed to take off like that by himself but he certainly could with me. Hell, I think we did it when he was 5 and I was 9 even.

Indeed Bob. Same here. About 3 miles from the house was the local elementary school, which had a playground with baseball diamonds. We'd get the gang of kids form the neighborhood together, and have a little 3 on 3 baseball, and we'd be gone until we got hungry (even in summer, the school was open and there were drinking fountains in there). All summer long, on our bikes creating jumps, cross country on trails, everywhere, all day long, pretty much.

It was also a time when another parent called your mom at your misbehavior, you got it twice. Once from the other mom, and once from your own mom when you got home.

Now, while parents helicopter and smother their kids, disciplining another's child for misbehavior is unthinkable.

Yeah, I think it significant that which has been lost.
 
Sometimes the police have to investigate innocent people, they can't read minds. I don't think anyone here is intending to do harm.
 
Sometimes the police have to investigate innocent people, they can't read minds. I don't think anyone here is intending to do harm.

Investigate children walking around? For what?
 
Same here. We woke up, had breakfast, then headed out. Came home for lunch and headed out again. Came home for dinner then went out again until it was too dark. By the way, I ran with scissors as well.

LOL. Heck. BB gun and a sandbox full of little green plastic army men. Always good for a few hours, although the BBs could get a little bit expense, but then you mowed the neighbors yard and could buy a few boxes, which were at the local K-Mart, but that meant you had to go shopping with mom to get them, and that was always boring.
 
Child protective services was a terrible idea.
 
LOL. Heck. BB gun and a sandbox full of little green plastic army men. Always good for a few hours, although the BBs could get a little bit expense, but then you mowed the neighbors yard and could buy a few boxes, which were at the local K-Mart, but that meant you had to go shopping with mom to get them, and that was always boring.

Hell, I still have all of my green army men, literally thousands of them, used to play a game where we set them up and used airsoft guns, taking turns or whatever down in the woods near this flat stone rock. Was the ****.
 
Child protective services was a terrible idea.

What does this have to do with CPS? CPS works wonderfully for the majority of children. This is about police officers.
 
Sometimes the police have to investigate innocent people, they can't read minds. I don't think anyone here is intending to do harm.

How about this exchange:

Police Officer: Hey kids, you lost?
kids: Nope.
PO: Where you going?
K: Home.
PO: You know the way?
K: Yep.
PO: Does your folks know where you are?
K: Yep.
PO: OK now, be careful.
K: Thanks Mr. policeman.

or

The police put the kids in the back seat of a cruiser for 3 hours and keep them away from their parents for 6 hours all without food.

Hmmm, which is better?
 
So now, instead, we have helicopter parents who won't let their kids out to play outside, and we have children addicted to video games and junk foods, obese with diabetes. Hmm. I think we've stepped backwards, frankly.
 
So now, instead, we have helicopter parents who won't let their kids out to play outside, and we have children addicted to video games and junk foods, obese with diabetes. Hmm. I think we've stepped backwards, frankly.

It doesn't help that junk food is cheap and constantly pushed onto children/parents.. Helicopter parenting can be justified in some cases, depending on where the child lives.
 
LOL. Heck. BB gun and a sandbox full of little green plastic army men. Always good for a few hours, although the BBs could get a little bit expense, but then you mowed the neighbors yard and could buy a few boxes, which were at the local K-Mart, but that meant you had to go shopping with mom to get them, and that was always boring.

I forgot riding in the back of trucks and drinking from sprinklers. Well, the sprinklers might explain a few things.
 
Sometimes the police have to investigate innocent people, they can't read minds. I don't think anyone here is intending to do harm.

The police picked the kids up, put them in the back of the squad car for an extended period, then took them to the child crisis center, ten Miles from their home. No, no harm done.
 
Children should be investigated for that? :shock:

No, but the state doesn't like children walking around by themselves and parents have and will continue to lose their children because of it.
 
No, but the state doesn't like children walking around by themselves and parents have and will continue to lose their children because of it.

Then we agree, they shouldn't be taken by police for walking around. That's all this is about.
 
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