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Rubio tells donors he is running for White House

Amadeus said:
Your candidate of choice will be an also-ran Republican who probably can't beat Hillary.
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As I asked, what qualifications and results do Hillary have that would make her a good President. Would take any Republican over her or any other Democrat these days as most of you have no concept of personal responsibility or the foundation upon which this country was built. You buy rhetoric and ignore substance
 
Conservative said:
As I asked, what qualifications and results do Hillary have that would make her a good President. Would take any Republican over her or any other Democrat these days as most of you have no concept of personal responsibility or the foundation upon which this country was built. You buy rhetoric and ignore substance
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You are asking the wrong person. Here's the thing: She doesn't have to be qualified. She just has to be slightly less repulsive than her competitor. You may take any Republican over Hillary, but most Americans won't.

Hillary was a Goldwater Republican, is way too hawkish, she's an apologist for big banks and is not that progressive except when it is politically convenient. As I've said, you might as well get in line and support her as she's the closest to a viable conservative candidate as you're going to get.
 
Amadeus said:
You are asking the wrong person. Here's the thing: She doesn't have to be qualified. She just has to be slightly less repulsive than her competitor. You may take any Republican over Hillary, but most Americans won't.

Hillary was a Goldwater Republican, is way too hawkish, she's an apologist for big banks and is not that progressive except when it is politically convenient. As I've said, you might as well get in line and support her as she's the closest to a viable conservative candidate as you're going to get.
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Your opinion noted but your leaning disqualifies you for having any credibility. You wouldn't know a viable candidate if that candidate was standing right next to you and had a viable, accurate, and pro growth resume.

There isn't a Democrat Candidate that I have seen that isn't in the same camp as Pelosi, Reid, and Obama. Personal responsibility and pro private sector growth aren't qualities that any liberal today possesses.
 
Amadeus said:
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No, Bill is responsible for HIS OWN ACTIONS. It's called personal responsibility. Look into it. The end.
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Thank you. Hillary is also responsible for hers. Bill isn't. Works both ways. Which says that - ahhhhh - never mind. You have a good evening.
 
Amadeus said:
You are asking the wrong person. Here's the thing: She doesn't have to be qualified. She just has to be slightly less repulsive than her competitor. You may take any Republican over Hillary, but most Americans won't.

Hillary was a Goldwater Republican, is way too hawkish, she's an apologist for big banks and is not that progressive except when it is politically convenient. As I've said, you might as well get in line and support her as she's the closest to a viable conservative candidate as you're going to get.
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That's the problem. The NDP here say the same things she does, and whenever they get into office it is "convenient" they pay off friends like big labor, public sector labor with huge raises and featherbedding.

Playing to big banks is neither conservative nor original the Democrats, especially Clinton, have been riding on Wall Street money since Joe Kennedy bought Jackie the presidency. Taxing business like Obamacare or her plan is not business friendly but populist socialism, the death of much of Europe, like Greece, Spain, Italy and so forth.

And she will go down the most convenient road, she has shown no signs of thinking outside a very small box
 
Objective Voice said:
I think the issue goes beyond school unions. It's more about access to affordable education. Right now, our public school system is available to all comers. The fear is that charter schools or a school voucher program will pull kids from public schools leaving those who can't afford to make the transition behind. That IS a problem for society as a whole. Look at where we are today with so many students coming out of college unprepared to meet the demands of the labor force today. Same could be said of students graduating from high school unprepared for college.

There's a lot that goes into this one issue of educating our children, but I'm beginning to see that there are benefits to charter schools and/or voucher programs that if done right could change the way our education system works and leave no child behind.

But let's table this debate for another time, another thread and turn the discussion back over to Sen. Marco Rubio: Is he ready to be the next POTUS?

Let the discussion continue...:)
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The candidate who pushes for school choice will score favorability points with me. So Rubio is good with vouchers. Most schools get their funding via the number of kids who makes up the census for that school. If a failing school starts losing kids in favor of other schools, that school SHOULD close and parents should make other arrangements to educate their kids. The most likely scenario though is that the teachers and principal of that failing school will want to save their jobs and if the only way they can do that is to up their game and do a better job of educating, then it is a win win for all.

Rubio (and others) have made the point that competition rarely ever results in more inferior products.
 
humbolt said:
Thank you. Hillary is also responsible for hers.
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Yes, she is. And you have no idea what she did or didn't do, if anything. So you basically have nothing. Good day.
 
Rubio tells donors he is running for White House


DA60 tells debatepolitics he doesn't give a sh!t.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Has she ever accepted responsibility as hers?
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Not when it doesn't suit her political ambitions. We are expected to accept a new idea about marriage. The individuals in a marriage do nothing which affects the partner, that they operate in a marital vacuum in which responsibility is not shared, and that the responsibility for one's actions does not affect the other. Simple. If you'll just accept this ridiculous narrative, we can move on.
 
humbolt said:
Not when it doesn't suit her political ambitions. We are expected to accept a new idea about marriage. The individuals in a marriage do nothing which affects the partner, that they operate in a marital vacuum in which responsibility is not shared, and that the responsibility for one's actions does not affect the other. Simple. If you'll just accept this ridiculous narrative, we can move on.
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Greetings, humbolt. :2wave:

I guess we can be thankful they found each other, thereby inadvertently doing society a big favor! :lamo:
 
polgara said:
Greetings, humbolt. :2wave:

I guess we can be thankful they found each other, thereby inadvertently doing society a big favor! :lamo:
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They're showing us a new way - far superior to the old way. Convenience rules.
 
humbolt said:
They're showing us a new way - far superior to the old way. Convenience rules.
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I'm usually willing to try new things, but I'm gonna pass on this! It bothers me to think I might actually understand it... :mrgreen:
 
humbolt said:
I'm not finished with the second part here. You are claiming that Bill is responsible for his infidelities, and you'll get no disagreement from me on that. You will, however get strong disagreement from me regarding Hillary's role in it. Understand, Bill has been unfaithful for decades, and it is well known. Certainly known by Hillary. She willfully engaged in cover ups of this stuff. Why? Because Bill's infidelity was secondary to her political ambitions. She was an enabler. By helping to conceal such actions, she suborned truth - not to mention outright lying. There was no vast right-wing conspiracy during the Lewinsky affair unless you consider an elected congress a conspiracy. This is her willful lying and placing the sanctity of her marriage in a secondary position to her other desires, and that's enough for me and anybody else with an ounce of common sense to understand that she certainly has a role in the whole damn thing. When any person attempts to conceal or mitigate the moral failures of another, that person is an enabler. She played her part.
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Well said!

And we must not ignore the fact that Hillary was more than tacit in these escapades of adultery, she outright attacked the victims.

She claims to be the messiah of women but has for decades has engaged in middle ages techniques of blaming the woman. That's about as feminist as Osama bin Laden
 
Conservative said:
Please tell me why anyone would vote for Hillary? What exactly are her accomplishments, not the titles she has held but the results generated?
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Wife of a governor, first lady, two term senator, and horrible secretary of state.

I have to say it is a more impressive resume than Obama, but then look where the country is
 
Fearandloathing said:
Well said!

And we must not ignore the fact that Hillary was more than tacit in these escapades of adultery, she outright attacked the victims.

She claims to be the messiah of women but has for decades has engaged in middle ages techniques of blaming the woman. That's about as feminist as Osama bin Laden
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Looks for all the world to me that Hillary accepted the fact that Bill was unfaithful, and would continue to be throughout the marriage, very early in their relationship. To forgive is a requirement, but to accept the precursor routinely suggests that far more than forgiveness is involved. There is a time to walk away from a marriage such as theirs, and Hillary has stayed for reasons that betray simple, ongoing forgiveness or even the stoic steadfastness the media just loves to allude to. None of that is apparent to me.
 
Amadeus said:
What you have to worry about is why anyone would vote for your favored candidate.
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Cheap shot!

And the worst politics in the universe.

The first thing any politician does is assess the strengths and weaknesses of his opponent. That's why you are seeing so much interest in the Republican race and none in the Democrats, Dems have very little chance.

Why anyone would vote for this lying woman hater and threat to national security IS the very root of what has to done and said in the coming months.

As a Hillary lover and wanting her to succeed, you should be asking yourself why you support her and not some more viable, honest candidate. That reason is what will take the dems out of power for at least a decade.

You're backing a myth, a tainted image, as hollow as Obama. When this balloon breaks the coalition of special interests known as the Democratic Party and falsely labeled as "libera;" will be what the NDP is here, an out of touch band of losers clinging to ancient concepts trying to represent every minority and special interest in the world.

Hillary, dear self obsessed Hillary could be your doom.
 
humbolt said:
Looks for all the world to me that Hillary accepted the fact that Bill was unfaithful, and would continue to be throughout the marriage, very early in their relationship. To forgive is a requirement, but to accept the precursor routinely suggests that far more than forgiveness is involved. There is a time to walk away from a marriage such as theirs, and Hillary has stayed for reasons that betray simple, ongoing forgiveness or even the stoic steadfastness the media just loves to allude to. None of that is apparent to me.
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No way to verify but during the Lewinski affair I heard several shows about Bill's fast fly. He is said to have cheated on her with her knowledge before they were married.

That is her nature. What morals do you surrender to become a politician to deliberately seek out and stay with a sex addict in the first place, and to remain in that "marriage" for the sake of her own career?

Americans need to ask themselves not weather she is qualified to be president but whether she is qualified to be your neighbor?
 
Fearandloathing said:
Cheap shot!

And the worst politics in the universe.
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No, it's not a cheap shot. It's reality. I've repeatedly said that Hillary is not a candidate I favor, just that she's going to be far better than the competition. That's why she'll win, barring some unforeseen circumstance.

The rest of your post was borderline coherent.
 
Amadeus said:
No, it's not a cheap shot. It's reality. I've repeatedly said that Hillary is not a candidate I favor, just that she's going to be far better than the competition. That's why she'll win, barring some unforeseen circumstance.

The rest of your post was borderline coherent.
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Now did I insult you?

"bordreline coherent" means what, you didn't or you did understand it?

You take a cheap shot to prove it was not a cheap shot.

Thanks for proving my point, the left are belligerent, thin skinned and will tolerate even death threats for their shallow ends.

You will vote for her
 
Fearandloathing said:
Now did I insult you?
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You're probably incapable of insulting me. It's above your pay grade.

"bordreline coherent" means what, you didn't or you did understand it?
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It means that it was ranting and whiny and didn't convey anything other than your anti-Hillary sentiments.

You will vote for her
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I guarantee that I won't vote for her. I'm not an American citizen.
 
So anyway, back to Rubio. I'm going to be meeting him this weekend. Actually I'm going to get to meet pretty much all of them. My husband and some of our friends and i are going to the summit in Nashua where all of the candidates and possible/likely candidates are going to be. I'll see who I like.
 
Conservative said:
Exactly, Hillary? Biden? Warren? But then again the majority voted for Obama so anything can happen to continue to support the Gruber claim that the electorate is ignorant. Seems that the liberals will continue to ignore results and buy the leftwing rhetoric. Obama should be enough to make Democrats never vote again based upon emotion.
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LOL....what is pure "ignorance" is someone who relies on the opinions of one man and salivates at the mention of his name. Your obsession with this Gruber guy is unhealthy con....then again....you actually admit to voting for GWB more than once...so that's gotta tell you something as well.
 
disneydude said:
LOL....what is pure "ignorance" is someone who relies on the opinions of one man and salivates at the mention of his name. Your obsession with this Gruber guy is unhealthy con....then again....you actually admit to voting for GWB more than once...so that's gotta tell you something as well.
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It tells most people that I made the right decision because the alternative was Gore and Kerry. The fact that you want to divert from Gruber's comments is quite telling just like the fact that you love California politics and its economic conditions says a lot about you.
 
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