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Rubio tells donors he is running for White House

Born Free said:
Who else has no frigging chance whatsoever?
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Loads of people, Romney, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson, Donald Trump, Rick Perry, Chris Christie, Rick Santorum, Rand Paul, etc. etc.

Maybe Bush has a chance but I am not sure about that one either.
 
Peter King said:
Loads of people, Romney, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson, Donald Trump, Rick Perry, Chris Christie, Rick Santorum, Rand Paul, etc. etc.

Maybe Bush has a chance but I am not sure about that one either.
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OK so no republican can win the Republican nomination and the party then throws it's vote for Hillery. Got it.
 
Born Free said:
Because it is good for the country. That is what a good presidents does is lead.
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But education should not be a president's duty. A president shouldn't even spend a thought on education. That should be entirely up to the states.
 
The Man said:
But then why would you think Rubio should campaign on education vouchers?
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I will answer your question another way, why is Obama and the liberals against vouchers. I'll tell you why, they pander to the union teachers for their vote rather than the students getting a good education from a school that gets educational results.

Liberals are nothing but selling their soles for votes. To get those votes they give more freebies and pander to unions. Hillery is now running on yet another freebee, as always, now it's free community college. You elect me you get more free stuff. With 18 trillion in debt more freebees are on their way with Hillery and the liberals. When Obama campaigned Bush was UN-American for raising the national debt, that was all BS as Obama has raised the national debt by 8 trillion in just 6 yrs. And be damned students get a good education because the vote trumps students getting a good education.

Now tell me what are you for?????????
 
The Man said:
But education should not be a president's duty. A president shouldn't even spend a thought on education. That should be entirely up to the states.
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Then tell me why Obama is against vouchers. Of course that is an easy answer, he and the liberals support the unions over a students education. You being very liberal know exactly what I'm talking about. You are also against vouchers as you pander to the unions over student education.

[h=1]Obama's War on School Vouchers[/h]http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204883304577223290975405900

Despite giving lip service to education reform, the Obama administration has decided to put an end to the very successful D.C. school voucher program. This despite a United States Department of Education report that found students in the nation's capital that were provided with vouchers allowing them to attend private school through the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship program had made statistically significant gains in reading achievement.

Obama Wrong on D.C. School Vouchers and Hypocritical, Just Like Congress - US News

The House votes Wednesday on a bill championed by House Speaker John Boehner that would revive and expand vouchers for low-income students in the District of Columbia. The Obama administration said in a statement Tuesday it “strongly opposes” the measure. School vouchers have long been opposed by the National Education Association and Democratic allies.

David Mark's response to 'Obama vs. Boehner on school vouchers? Plus, justice in the New Black Panther case?' - The Arena | POLITICO.COM

Do I need to go on???
 
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Born Free said:
Then tell me why Obama is against vouchers. Of course that is an easy answer, he and the liberals support the unions over a students education. You being very liberal know exactly what I'm talking about. You are also against vouchers as you pander to the unions over student education.
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I'm not against vouchers at all, I actually like the idea, and I can't stand public sector unions. I just don't think any president has any business sticking their nose in education. That should be for the states to decide.

Why do you believe that a president should have any business in education?
 
The Man said:
I'm not against vouchers at all, I actually like the idea, and I can't stand public sector unions. I just don't think any president has any business sticking their nose in education. That should be for the states to decide.

Why do you believe that a president should have any business in education?
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I submit to you Obama's involvement in my post 183, he is against it. Period

Robio is for it. If Obama can reject it then Robio has the right to support it. Fairly simple for me to understand
 
Born Free said:
I submit to you Obama's involvement in my post 183, he is against it. Period

Robio is for it. If Obama can reject it then Robio has the right to support it. Fairly simple for me to understand
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No president should have any involvement in education. Why do you think that they should?

That should be left up to the states. There is no authority in our constitution that grants federal government power over education.
 
The Man said:
No president should have any involvement in education. Why do you think that they should?

That should be left up to the states. There is no authority in our constitution that grants federal government power over education.
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If there is no authority then why is Obama speaking out against vouchers.

Is also Hillery dead wrong on vote for me for fee community college?
 
The Man said:
No president should have any involvement in education. Why do you think that they should?

That should be left up to the states. There is no authority in our constitution that grants federal government power over education.
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I submit you are against any president involvement except Obama, I have yet to see you denounce Obama's involvement as dead wrong. However to counter Obama's involvement Robio has the right to counter him.

Further if you are truly for vouchers then you would denounce Obama for his involvement in speaking out against vouchers.
 
Born Free said:
If there is no authority then why is Obama speaking out against vouchers.

Is also Hillery dead wrong on vote for me for fee community college?
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I don't know why Obama speaks on anything, or Hillary. I can't stand either of them.

I'm asking you, why do YOU think that a president should have any business in education?
 
Gringo allstar said:
So you call NP a racist in one post, then expose your racism in the next.. niiice
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See...that is what you guys fail to recognize. There is nothing "racist" about latino voters being energized by a latino candidate or black voters being energized by a black candidate. What energizes them is not the color of their skin or their gender in other categories....if THAT is what energized them....it would be racist or sexist. People like NP think that latino voters or black voters are stupid and will go out and vote for someone just because of their skin color. People like NP don't understand that black voters or latino voters or women voters vote based primarily on issues. The racism/sexism lies in the belief of people like NP that only white male voters are "educated voters"....everyone else (in their minds) only vote based on skin color and/or gender. Women/Blacks/Latinos...etc.....will vote for the candidate that best matches their values. This is why white women would vote for someone like Barack Obama over Sarah Palin or why black voters will vote for someone like Biden over someone like Herman Cain. But combine someone with their demographics who also shares their values and beliefs and agrees with them on the issues...of course its going to energize them. But that isn't racist.....Now do you understand?
 
Navy Pride said:
Where will the yonger go? Surely not that old bag Hillary.
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If Hillary is an "old bag"....what does that make you NP? A Lecherous old man who can't keep his hands off another man's wife? Would you vote for Jeb Bush who is almost the same age as Hillary? And of course...I'm sure you didn't vote for Ronald Reagan who was older than Hillary....right? Or is your hypocrisy showing yet again?
 
humbolt said:
Which is exactly what you implied, and you know it.
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I said nothing of the sort, and you continuing to insist that I did shows that you're simply a blatant, delusional liar.

I didn't imply it. I said it. That's not categorically true, but generally so. In the Clinton's case, it's very likely true.
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No, everyone is responsible for his/her own actions. Bill being a horndog and seeking gratification outside the marriage is entirely on him. It's not Hillary's fault whatosever. Having marital problems is a separate issue from infidelity.
 
Born Free said:
OK so no republican can win the Republican nomination and the party then throws it's vote for Hillery. Got it.
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I am pretty sure I did not mention Jeb Bush as someone with little or no chance of winning the nomination? At least how it stands yet.

And do you really think that, for example, Rick "liar liar pants on fire" Santorum has a snowballs chance in hell of winning the republican nomination or winning the presidency? I think not.
 
Erod said:
Well, that's yet another candidate that is vastly more qualified than the clueless old bag the Democrats will put forth.
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Seriously? Two term senator and secretary of state? And don't discount the position of first lady. What are you smoking?
 
Peter King said:
No frigging chance whatsoever. The donors putting their money on Rubio are throwing their money down the drain because he will never be the republican candidate for the presidency and he will never ever (at least not this time around) defeat Hillary or whomever is chosen by the democrats.
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"never"?
 
disneydude said:
See...that is what you guys fail to recognize. There is nothing "racist" about latino voters being energized by a latino candidate or black voters being energized by a black candidate. What energizes them is not the color of their skin or their gender in other categories....if THAT is what energized them....it would be racist or sexist. People like NP think that latino voters or black voters are stupid and will go out and vote for someone just because of their skin color. People like NP don't understand that black voters or latino voters or women voters vote based primarily on issues. The racism/sexism lies in the belief of people like NP that only white male voters are "educated voters"....everyone else (in their minds) only vote based on skin color and/or gender. Women/Blacks/Latinos...etc.....will vote for the candidate that best matches their values. This is why white women would vote for someone like Barack Obama over Sarah Palin or why black voters will vote for someone like Biden over someone like Herman Cain. But combine someone with their demographics who also shares their values and beliefs and agrees with them on the issues...of course its going to energize them. But that isn't racist.....Now do you understand?
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I'm a white woman, and I never considered voting for Barack Obama. And it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. White married women vote on issues too. Luckily most of them vote against the liberals.

You say blacks & Latinos & women vote on issues. What do white men vote on? Something different?
 
tres borrachos said:
I'm a white woman, and I never considered voting for Barack Obama. And it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. White married women vote on issues too. Luckily most of them vote against the liberals.

You say blacks & Latinos & women vote on issues. What do white men vote on? Something different?
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I never said that all white women voted for Barack Obama. In fact....what you wrote supports exactly what I was saying. White women, blacks, latinos, Asians...white men.....etc....ALL PEOPLE vote based on issues. The racists/sexists like NP think that if you throw up a black person or a woman, black people and women will race to vote for them simply based on their skin color or the fact that they have a vagina. THAT is absolutely wrong. Women are not going to race to vote for ANY woman....they are going to vote for a woman who shares their values/beliefs. Same with Blacks....Latinos.....Asians......

BTW....in answer to your final question.....I think white men vote on issues as well. But again....people like NP think that ONLY white men vote on issues.....everyone else is swayed by emotions in their view.
 
disneydude said:
I never said that all white women voted for Barack Obama. In fact....what you wrote supports exactly what I was saying. White women, blacks, latinos, Asians...white men.....etc....ALL PEOPLE vote based on issues. The racists/sexists like NP think that if you throw up a black person or a woman, black people and women will race to vote for them simply based on their skin color or the fact that they have a vagina. THAT is absolutely wrong. Women are not going to race to vote for ANY woman....they are going to vote for a woman who shares their values/beliefs. Same with Blacks....Latinos.....Asians......

BTW....in answer to your final question.....I think white men vote on issues as well. But again....people like NP think that ONLY white men vote on issues.....everyone else is swayed by emotions in their view.
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Okay, I understand what you were getting out now. Thanks for clarifying.
 
disneydude said:
See...that is what you guys fail to recognize. There is nothing "racist" about latino voters being energized by a latino candidate or black voters being energized by a black candidate. What energizes them is not the color of their skin or their gender in other categories....if THAT is what energized them....it would be racist or sexist. People like NP think that latino voters or black voters are stupid and will go out and vote for someone just because of their skin color. People like NP don't understand that black voters or latino voters or women voters vote based primarily on issues. The racism/sexism lies in the belief of people like NP that only white male voters are "educated voters"....everyone else (in their minds) only vote based on skin color and/or gender. Women/Blacks/Latinos...etc.....will vote for the candidate that best matches their values. This is why white women would vote for someone like Barack Obama over Sarah Palin or why black voters will vote for someone like Biden over someone like Herman Cain. But combine someone with their demographics who also shares their values and beliefs and agrees with them on the issues...of course its going to energize them. But that isn't racist.....Now do you understand?
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Yeah we understand that the OP isn't about Navy Pride......what about you?
 
MMC said:
Yeah we understand that the OP isn't about Navy Pride......what about you?
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In case you weren't paying attention (obviously).....I was responding to his racist post. Doh!
 
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