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Rubio tells donors he is running for White House

humbolt said:
Give it a break. You've been busy claiming the right views Bill as a victim throughout the past several pages. Move along now and pretend you didn't say something else you surely did.
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All Bill was ever a victim of was his own uncontrollable libido. The man is hornier than a 3-balled tomcat.
 
humbolt said:
Give it a break. You've been busy claiming the right views Bill as a victim throughout the past several pages. Move along now and pretend you didn't say something else you surely did.
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You're free to quote me, specifically. And if you don't I'm calling you a liar.
 
vesper said:
You couldn't even quote me accurately. geesh
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Besides not agreeing with Hillary ideologically, what I find most troubling about her is how she stayed with Bill after all his promiscuous behavior. And her closest confidant is the wife of that Weiner character who was a congressman that used social media to share pictures of his private parts with strange women also stayed with him after that. I don't get that one and find it rather bizarre and creepy. Not exactly a swell choice to have as a potential first woman president.
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There you go.
 
Amadeus said:
There you go.
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And what? you accused me of blaming her. I did no such thing. From a woman's point of view I don't see how it could be healthy to remain in a relationship with a serial cheater. Some say women do out of insecurity. Others say some women blame themselves for it happening. Another cause can be low-self esteem. Another being possessive, like "he might be a cheater but he's my cheater". None of these reasons sound healthy.
 
vesper said:
And what? you accused me of blaming her. I did no such thing. From a woman's point of view I don't see how it could be healthy to remain in a relationship with a serial cheater. Some say women do out of insecurity. Others say some women blame themselves for it happening. Another cause can be low-self esteem. Another being possessive, like "he might be a cheater but he's my cheater". None of these reasons sound healthy.
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You said I didn't quote you properly. I just quoted you properly. People are free to read into your words what they will. I think I read them correctly, including the part where you allocate responsibility to Hillary for her friend's husband's adultery.
 
humbolt said:
Heh. It's not worth the trouble, and I don't care what you call me.
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I guess you looked back and realized I said nothing resembling what you claim. Good on you for realizing it.
 
Amadeus said:
I guess you looked back and realized I said nothing resembling what you claim. Good on you for realizing it.
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No, I didn't. I looked back this morning and verified that you claim the right is blaming Hillary for Bill's infidelity. If you think you were cute in the manner you used, you weren't. I'm not interested in victimhood. People with hundreds of millions of dollars are hardly victims of anything worth discussing.
 
tres borrachos said:
All Bill was ever a victim of was his own uncontrollable libido. The man is hornier than a 3-balled tomcat.
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It's called sexual addiction and it is a disease..one that can destroy a lot of lives. I am sure Monica Lewinski can fill you in on the price one pays for being taken in by it.
 
Amadeus said:
You said I didn't quote you properly. I just quoted you properly. People are free to read into your words what they will. I think I read them correctly, including the part where you allocate responsibility to Hillary for her friend's husband's adultery.
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I did no such thing.
What I did do is point out both women Hillary and her closet confidante Huma Abedin remained married to their spouses after they were found to continue in cheating and sometimes lewd behavior. That's not something I see as a strong attribute in a woman but troubling one. You have a reading comprehension problem.
 
humbolt said:
No, I didn't. I looked back this morning and verified that you claim the right is blaming Hillary for Bill's infidelity.
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That's not what you accused me of saying. Want me to quote you? Here you go:

humbolt: You're busy claiming the right calls Bill a victim.
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Then you went around in circles claiming I said this. I didn't. You either lied or you were mistaken.

And I never said the right is blaming Hillary for Bill's actions. One poster said this, and you implied that it takes two people to contribute to an infidelity.
 
vesper said:
I did no such thing.
What I did do is point out both women Hillary and her closet confidante Huma Abedin remained married to their spouses after they were found to continue in cheating and sometimes lewd behavior. That's not something I see as a strong attribute in a woman but troubling one. You have a reading comprehension problem.
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It's a distinction without a difference. Hillary gets cheated on, her friend gets cheated on, it's Hillary's fault for reconciling her relationship and living her own private life and being happy. Glad you live a perfect existence without bumps in the road.
 
Amadeus said:
It's a distinction without a difference. Hillary gets cheated on, her friend gets cheated on, it's Hillary's fault for reconciling her relationship and living her own private life and being happy. Glad you live a perfect existence without bumps in the road.
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A person's behavior in dealing with their own not so private problems in the public eye that show troubling trends and that person wants to be president, it becomes relevant.
 
vesper said:
A person's behavior in dealing with their own not so private problems in the public eye that show troubling trends and that person wants to be president, it becomes relevant.
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Objective Voice said:
I think the issue goes beyond school unions. It's more about access to affordable education. Right now, our public school system is available to all comers. The fear is that charter schools or a school voucher program will pull kids from public schools leaving those who can't afford to make the transition behind. That IS a problem for society as a whole. Look at where we are today with so many students coming out of college unprepared to meet the demands of the labor force today. Same could be said of students graduating from high school unprepared for college.
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A school voucher, also called an education voucher, with the system overall being called the voucher system, is a certificate of funding issued by the government, which the parents of a schoolchild have control of and are able to direct towards the public or private school of their own choosing to fully or partially pay for the tuition of their child at that school for that year, term or semester.

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With the voucher system, every one would get a voucher and can choose which school to go too. If they choose to go to a public school fine and if not enough students want to go to a public school then that school should be shut down. And why would it be shut down, because of poor performance.

There's a lot that goes into this one issue of educating our children, but I'm beginning to see that there are benefits to charter schools and/or voucher programs that if done right could change the way our education system works and leave no child behind.
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Agreed

But let's table this debate for another time, another thread and turn the discussion back over to Sen. Marco Rubio: Is he ready to be the next POTUS?

Let the discussion continue...:)
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Agree with this also. Along that line I like Rubio. But I also like Scott Walker and Jeb Bush, so the jury is out on these for me. Scott Walker and Jeb Bush have been both successful governors who actually ran a state. Rubio was the speaker of the house in Florida, he's got talent.
 
Not sure if this was asked.
But what is his position, today on illegal aliens?
 
vesper said:
Did Gingrich get the nomination? No. Have a nice day.
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It certainly wasn't a disqualifier for him, nor was it troubling to most Republicans. Because he asked Jesus for forgiveness. Unfortunately, there's no forgiveness if you've been cheated on. That stain lasts forever.
 
disneydude said:
Just wait NP......Hillary is going to select Julian Castro as her running mate and he will energize the young vote in much the same way that Hillary energizes a large proportion of the population. People don't just vote for people that match their own demographics....I'm sorry that your old white male mind can't comprehend that.
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So you call NP a racist in one post, then expose your racism in the next.. niiice
 
Born Free said:
I would suggest to start with the very basic of basics, school vouchers allows a student to pick the school of his/her choice. Thus parents will be looking for teachers with results rather than union teachers dedicated to the benefit of the teacher first over the student.
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Nope. That should be up to the states. A president should have no say in that.
 
Amadeus said:
That's not what you accused me of saying. Want me to quote you? Here you go:
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Which is exactly what you implied, and you know it.

Then you went around in circles claiming I said this. I didn't. You either lied or you were mistaken.
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No, I did neither. Just because you went on and on without uttering the precise words doesn't mean you didn't mean exactly what I said.

And I never said the right is blaming Hillary for Bill's actions. One poster said this, and you implied that it takes two people to contribute to an infidelity.
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I didn't imply it. I said it. That's not categorically true, but generally so. In the Clinton's case, it's very likely true. Hillary certainly knew about Bill's previous transgressions when Lewinsky became known. In some respects I think she behaved admirably and somewhat stoically. However, when political ambition runs headlong into such scandals, Hillary threw certain things overboard for political considerations. Seems this was more than a one-time event, but this was the only one on the national stage, front and center.
 
tres borrachos said:
Rubio tells donors he is running for White House

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MIAMI (AP) — Sen. Marco Rubio is telling his top donors that he is running for president because he feels "uniquely qualified" to pitch his Republican Party as one that will defend the American Dream.

The first-term Republican from Florida told his biggest backers on a conference call on Monday that he sees the coming presidential campaign as a choice between the past and the future. In a swipe at Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, Rubio said the former first lady "is a leader from yesterday."

Rubio says he has always felt the United States is about tomorrow.


Does he have a chance?
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No frigging chance whatsoever. The donors putting their money on Rubio are throwing their money down the drain because he will never be the republican candidate for the presidency and he will never ever (at least not this time around) defeat Hillary or whomever is chosen by the democrats.
 
The Man said:
Nope. That should be up to the states. A president should have no say in that.
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I would never want Obama involved with anything. And it is a state issue and they are moving in the direction of complete voucher system.
 
Born Free said:
I would never want Obama involved with anything. And it is a state issue and they are moving in the direction of complete voucher system.
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Right. A president shouldn't have any say in our education system. That should be up to the states, entirely.
 
Peter King said:
No frigging chance whatsoever. The donors putting their money on Rubio are throwing their money down the drain because he will never be the republican candidate for the presidency and he will never ever (at least not this time around) defeat Hillary or whomever is chosen by the democrats.
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Who else has no frigging chance whatsoever?
 
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