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Boston cop shot in the face

Pathetic. What is comical is that YOU are the one placing bolding and emphasis and YOU are the one making it be about BLACK. Ironic, since your initial presentation here was 'look at me...Im such a reasonable person..." :lamo

YOU ignore the facts to try continue to support YOUR bias. You still are.

Where's the bias in anything I've posted in regards to replying to your commentary or anyone else's in this thread? I've not once said Black people shouldn't be held accountable for their irresponsible behavior or poor choices. I have, however, pointed out that sometimes cops and politicians AND White people, particularly of the past, have done things socially and/or politically that have oppressed Black people OR put themselves in a good light while taking advantage of other people's misery. But I've in no way shown bias one way or the other.

You talk about me ignoring facts, but you haven't provided any to refute. All you've done is make blanket statements inferring that Black people, Black political action groups and Black politicians only get on their soap box when Black lives are lost at the hands of White people. Well, I've got news for you, there have been plenty of candle light vigils hosted by Blacks where a Black person's life was lost by the hand of another Black person. There have been plenty of Black politicians and Black Activist who have spoken out against Black on Black crime. Problem is folks like you only come out of the wood works when you believe White authority or White superiority is being threatened. Just as you claim Blacks stop short of calling out Black on Black crime, you stop short of doing research to find out whether Black people are as one-sided in regards to Black lives as you claim.

You're very wrong in your assessment, sir.

Now, we can't help what the media picks up on but in this social media driven world we live in today, it's easy for anyone to post a YouTube video of a protest movement. But who amongst White society is willing to look at a speech given by a Black student, a Black parent, a Black teacher/college professor, a Black activist of relevance who speaks out against Black on Black crime? Are you?

Let me make myself perfectly clear: I CONDEMN ANY SENSELESS DEATH NO MATTER THE RACE, GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION. But I don't go out of my way to put White people down as you (and others) have clearly done against Blacks. I may point out an individual act I believe was wrongly committed by an individual and such person may be White, but I'd do that if the person were Black, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, Russian, Greek, French, etc., etc. It doesn't matter to me because wrong is wrong. PERIOD! And you, sir, are wrong! And just to show how wrong you are about my commentary, go back and read post #35 (page 4), as specific portion of which I've reposted below:

However, I DO believe that there are some instances where we, as Black people, bring trouble unto ourselves, i.e., driving without a valid driver's license, having outstanding warrants or just being uncooperative with police. None of those things places any person least of all a Black person in a good light with local police.

You need to stop focusing on me and check yourself!

(And BTW, that which I've placed in BOLD are YOUR WORDS, not mine.)
 
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Where's the bias in anything I've posted in regards to replying to your commentary or anyone else's in this thread? I've not once said Black people shouldn't be held accountable for their irresponsible behavior or poor choices. I have, however, pointed out that sometimes cops and politicians AND White people, particularly of the past, have done things socially and/or politically that have oppressed Black people OR put themselves in a good light while taking advantage of other people's misery. But I've in no way shown bias one way or the other.

You talk about me ignoring facts, but you haven't provided any to refute. All you've done is make blanket statements inferring that Black people, Black political action groups and Black politicians only get on their soap box when Black lives are lost at the hands of White people. Well, I've got news for you, there have been plenty of candle light vigils hosted by Blacks where a Black person's life was lost by the hand of another Black person. There have been plenty of Black politicians and Black Activist who have spoken out against Black on Black crime. Problem is folks like you only come out of the wood works when you believe White authority or White superiority is being threatened. Just as you claim Blacks stop short of calling out Black on Black crime, you stop short of doing research to find out whether Black people are as one-sided in regards to Black lives as you claim.

You're very wrong in your assessment, sir.

Now, we can't help what the media picks up on but in this social media driven world we live in today, it's easy for anyone to post a YouTube video of a protest movement. But who amongst White society is willing to look at a speech given by a Black student, a Black parent, a Black teacher/college professor, a Black activist of relevance who speaks out against Black on Black crime? Are you?

Let me make myself perfectly clear: I CONDEMN ANY SENSELESS DEATH NO MATTER THE RACE, GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION. But I don't go out of my way to put White people down as you (and others) have clearly done against Blacks. I may point out an individual act I believe was wrongly committed by an individual and such person may be White, but I'd do that if the person were Black, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, Russian, Greek, French, etc., etc. It doesn't matter to me because wrong is wrong. PERIOD! And you, sir, are wrong! And just to show how wrong you are about my commentary, go back and read post #35 (page 4), as specific portion of which I've reposted below:



You need to stop focusing on me and check yourself!

(And BTW, that which I've placed in BOLD are YOUR WORDS, not mine.)
In our exchange I very clearly stated that it was not a 'black thing'. You cant see your way out of that. Still.
 
Decorated Boston police officer shot in the face - CNN.com

This time it is hard to blame officers for being brutal. Maybe it is time to accept there is a reason behind police brutality except for deprived and immoral nature of American policemen (according to liberals). How many cases could have ended like this if officer didn't follow the instruction and shoot the suspect? I bet potential criminals' lives are less valuable than lives of law-abiding cops. Not all of them are good but attacking American police in general is a sign of anti-governmental propaganda.

No it is not - usually deranged morons.
 
In our exchange I very clearly stated that it was not a 'black thing'. You cant see your way out of that. Still.

The only post where you came close to doing as you claim was post #38, page 4:

They knew it. It didn't make a difference. Just another opportunity to bang the drum of oppression.

Why does the phrase 'black lives matter' exist? CLEARLY they don't matter. The only black lives that matter are the ones that die at the hands of cops. That's ridiculously exploitative. But that's not an exclusive club of folk. There are people that come out in droves following a school shooting. Cuz children's lives matter...right? Nah. Cute little pink chirruns matter because they can be exploited in the anti-gun cause.

But notice how you said it?

But that's not an exclusive club of folk. There are people that come out in droves following a school shooting. Cuz children's lives matter...right? Nah. Cute little pink chirruns matter because they can be exploited in the anti-gun cause.

You didn't make yourself clear at all. What you did was slip from condemning Black people for speaking out against the killing of Black men by cops to Black activist/(Black-liberal) politicians who exploit the death of "pink chirruns" to rally against anti-gun legislation. While I can agree with you that some Black people and some politicians do exploit some situations to champion their cause and cause mayhem, you made it clear that most of those people in your opinion are Blacks. I mean, what White person would use the slang dialect "pink chirruns" to describe White kids? And what "folk" were you referring to? You still haven't explained that one.

Maybe I haven't lived among southerners enough, but the only people I know who'd even use the word "chirrun" to describe kids are southern Blacks. I guess now you'll tell me your White grandmother uses that term on a regular basis. :roll: (And yes, this time I used the racial descriptive characterizing "grandmother" on purpose to make a distinctive point.)

Look, it's real simple: If you don't want to be viewed as a racist or a bigot, don't act like one...at least not in your posts. Make yourself clear! Stop relying on subtle innuendo for people to decipher your meaning.
 
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Is it my or your or someone else's fault? Many people in this country are poor yet they choose other paths in life and don't turn to crime. Afro-Americans should help themselves. Instead of living decent life it is much easier to blame cops, whites and society in general for the bitter cup.

Oh dear!
 
The only post where you came close to doing as you claim was post #38, page 4:



But notice how you said it?



You didn't make yourself clear at all. What you did was slip from condemning Black people for speaking out against the killing of Black men by cops to Black activist/(Black-liberal) politicians who exploit the death of "pink chirruns" to rally against anti-gun legislation. While I can agree with you that some Black people and some politicians do exploit some situations to champion their cause and cause mayhem, you made it clear that most of those people in your opinion are Blacks. I mean, what White person would use the slang dialect "pink chirruns" to describe White kids? And what "folk" were you referring to? You still haven't explained that one.

Maybe I haven't lived among southerners enough, but the only people I know who'd even use the word "chirrun" to describe kids are southern Blacks. I guess now you'll tell me your White grandmother uses that term on a regular basis. :roll: (And yes, this time I used the racial descriptive characterizing "grandmother" on purpose to make a distinctive point.)

Look, it's real simple: If you don't want to be viewed as a racist or a bigot, don't act like one...at least not in your posts. Make yourself clear! Stop relying on subtle innuendo for people to decipher your meaning.
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Thats right. Notice. I pointed out very clearly...exploitative douchebags are not relegated to race.

But you only see race. Cuz...well...you are 'that guy'.
 
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Thats right. Notice. I pointed out very clearly...exploitative douchebags are not relegated to race.

But you only see race. Cuz...well...you are 'that guy'.

Right...:roll:

Once again in your own words:

Nope...not hard at all to blame the officer. Hands Up Boston did just that.
Hands Up Boston....a predominately Black civil protest group...

In fact...they coordinated protests and held planning meetings to blame the cops for killing the black man. Of course...those planning meetings were 'colored people only'.

Suggesting "No Whites or Non-Blacks" allowed. And then there's this:

They knew it.

"They" here is the Boston Police Department.

It didn't make a difference. Just another opportunity to bang the drum of oppression.

A reference to Black people. You certainly weren't referring to Native American Indians.

Why does the phrase 'black lives matter' exist? CLEARLY they don't matter. The only black lives that matter are the ones that die at the hands of cops. That's ridiculously exploitative. But that's not an exclusive club of folk. There are people that come out in droves following a school shooting. Cuz children's lives matter...right? Nah. Cute little pink chirruns matter because they can be exploited in the anti-gun cause.

You did NOT refer to "exploitative douchbags" here. You said:

The only black lives that matter are the ones that die at the hands of cops. That's ridiculously exploitative.

Which is a far cry from suggesting that exploitation of such tragic events are not exclusive to Black people. Of course, while you did go on to say:

But that's not an exclusive club of folk.

You NEVER explained who those "folk" are. And even when I've asked you to clarify who you meant, you still have not done so. So, once again, what "folk" were you referring to?

Now, while you did follow that up with saying that "there are people that come out in droves following a school shooting," you quickly went into a sarcastic rant over the concern for the young lives of our nation's children. BUT you immediately went into what can only be described as a "colorful vernacular" which I can only assume was a jab at Black politicians since you used the color "pink" to describe the pigmentation of those "chirrun" whose lives apparently only matter to certain politicians when they can "exploit" a tragic event such as a school shooting for political gain.

Your words, not mine. You're just pissed 'cause I called you out. If I or anyone else am seeing racism in your words, it's because they are either the words you used or the tone you set. Either way, either own up to them or clarify exactly what you meant by them. But don't try to turn the tables on somebody else because you've been called out for your racism or bigotry.
 
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Right...:roll:

Once again in your own words:


Hands Up Boston....a predominately Black civil protest group...



Suggesting "No Whites or Non-Blacks" allowed. And then there's this:



"They" here is the Boston Police Department.



A reference to Black people. You certainly weren't referring to Native American Indians.



You did NOT refer to "exploitative douchbags" here. You said:



Which is a far cry from suggesting that exploitation of such tragic events are not exclusive to Black people. Of course, while you did go on to say:



You NEVER explained who those "folk" are. And even when I've asked you to clarify who you meant, you still have not done so. So, once again, what "folk" were you referring to?

Now, while you did follow that up with saying that "there are people that come out in droves following a school shooting," you quickly went into a sarcastic rant over the concern for the young lives of our nation's children. BUT you immediately went into what can only be described as a "colorful vernacular" which I can only assume was a jab at Black politicians since you used the color "pink" to describe the pigmentation of those "chirrun" whose lives apparently only matter to certain politicians when they can "exploit" a tragic event such as a school shooting for political gain.

Your words, not mine. You're just pissed 'cause I called you out. If I or anyone else am seeing racism in your words, it's because they are either the words you used or the tone you set. Either way, either own up to them or clarify exactly what you meant by them. But don't try to turn the tables on somebody else because you've been called out for your racism or bigotry.
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Its sad to see you are so obsessed with race and racism that you cant see anything but race and racism. Thats pretty pathetic...but not at all unexpected.

Hands Up Boston (as you said...a Black civil protest group) did some incredibly stupid things by ignoring the facts in the shooting and trying to make it be about the poor dead 'victim'. They responded just like other 'cause' groups respond...not because they are black, but because they are douchebags. But I get it. YOU want it to be because they are black. But its not because YOU are black....
 
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Its sad to see you are so obsessed with race and racism that you cant see anything but race and racism. Thats pretty pathetic...but not at all unexpected.

Hands Up Boston (as you said...a Black civil protest group) did some incredibly stupid things by ignoring the facts in the shooting and trying to make it be about the poor dead 'victim'. They responded just like other 'cause' groups respond...not because they are black, but because they are douchebags. But I get it. YOU want it to be because they are black. But its not because YOU are black....

Its your guns that are the problem not your racism which exists to a greater or lesser degree in every other developed nation.
 
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Its sad to see you are so obsessed with race and racism that you cant see anything but race and racism. Thats pretty pathetic...but not at all unexpected.

Hands Up Boston (as you said...a Black civil protest group) did some incredibly stupid things by ignoring the facts in the shooting and trying to make it be about the poor dead 'victim'. They responded just like other 'cause' groups respond...not because they are black, but because they are douchebags. But I get it. YOU want it to be because they are black. But its not because YOU are black....

No. What's sad is when given the opportunity to explain yourself and clarify your position you balked!

I've been transparent about how I feel about what happened with the police officer who is the subject of this thread, but I've also been candidate about my feelings on race baiting within this thread, as well as, expressing how I feel about those of my own race - that many of us need to get our acts together and stop being stupid when it comes to being confronted by the police. However, I've also stated quite clearly that sometimes some police officers take things too far. But you...?

I think anyone who reads your posts in this thread would likely come away with the same conclusion as I: That you mask the meaning behind your words with innuendo instead of coming out and saying what you mean. At least I had the balls to call out my own, acknowledge that in the case of the situation as addressed in the OP article that the Black man got what he deserved, agreed that sometimes Black "folks" and Black politicians can use a tragic situation to rally their cause. But I don't hide behind my words. I let my words carry my message, plain and clear. What have you done throughout this thread except mask your words, hide behind them as if to appear to be impartial when the truth is you're not.

Yes, I stood up for my own....when it comes to police brutality and wrongful police profiling. And I classified the purpose of this thread as "race baiting" same as a few others. And I believe I (we) am/are justified to do so. Are you brave enough to do the same? Or will you continue to hide behind your words?
 
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Its your guns that are the problem not your racism which exists to a greater or lesser degree in every other developed nation.
Really? Funny...but my guns are quite safe. In fact...the guns of my fellow 120 million gun owners are pretty much not the problem. At all. No...the problem is the violent criminal types that permeate society. Deal with them, you deal with the problem. The Japanese learned that. Banning guns didnt solve their problems. Passing draconian sentencing and their own version of RICO which locked up people for long long long periods of times for the commission of violent crimes using a firearm worked pretty well.

Why is it that people never want to target the people that are actually committing the crimes?
 
No. What's sad is when given the opportunity to explain yourself and clarify your position you balked!

I've been transparent about how I feel about what happened with the police officer who is the subject of this thread, but I've also been candidate about my feelings on race baiting within this thread, as well as, expressing how I feel about those of my own race - that many of us need to get our acts together and stop being stupid when it comes to being confronted by the police. However, I've also stated quite clearly that sometimes some police officers take things too far. But you...?

I think anyone who reads your post in this thread would likely come away with the same conclusion as I: That you mask the meaning behind your words with innuendo instead of coming out and saying what you mean. At least I had the balls to call out my own, acknowledge that in the case of the situation as addressed in the OP article that the Black man got what he deserved, agree that sometimes Black "folks" and Black politicians can use a tragic situation to rally their cause. But I don't hide behind my words. I let my words carry my message, plain and clear. What have you done throughout this thread except mask your words, hide behind them as if to appear to be impartial when the truth is you're not.

Yes, I stood up for my own....when it comes to police brutality and wrongful police profiling. And I classified the purpose of this thread as "race baiting" same as a few others. Are you brave enough to do the same? Or will you continue to hide behind your words?
"your own"?

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Yeah...you did. You stood up for a bunch of mindless douchebags that tried to turn a scumbag into a victim just like other cause driven douchebags have done. You continue to try to turn it into a race issue. Yes...you absolutely did stand up for 'your own'. Couldnt have said it better myself.
 
"your own"?

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Yeah...you did. You stood up for a bunch of mindless douchebags that tried to turn a scumbag into a victim just like other cause driven douchebags have done. You continue to try to turn it into a race issue. Yes...you absolutely did stand up for 'your own'. Couldnt have said it better myself.

Quote where I've stood up for the cop's assailant or the Hands Up Boston activist group?

Oh, and be careful....your true colors are beginning to show.

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Thats right. Notice. I pointed out very clearly...exploitative douchebags are not relegated to race.

But you only see race. Cuz...well...you are 'that guy'.

Who are these "mindless douchebags" and "other cause driven douchebags" you speak of? Here's your final change to make clear your meaning, sir.
 
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Really? Funny...but my guns are quite safe. In fact...the guns of my fellow 120 million gun owners are pretty much not the problem.

Denial is the first thing you need to address

At all. No...the problem is the violent criminal types that permeate society. Deal with them, you deal with the problem.

We have those too but our crime rates are at the lowest on record

The Japanese learned that. Banning guns didnt solve their problems.

Having an even lower gun crime rate than the UK would suggest otherwise

Passing draconian sentencing and their own version of RICO which locked up people for long long long periods of times for the commission of violent crimes using a firearm worked pretty well.

Your 30K + deaths per annum suggest otherwise

Why is it that people never want to target the people that are actually committing the crimes?

Why is it Americans are so in denial about the price their wider society pays for shooting them ?
 
Quote where I've stood up for the cop's assailant or the Hands Up Boston activist group?

Oh, and be careful....your true colors are beginning to show.



Who are these "mindless douchebags" and "other cause driven douchebags" you speak of? Here's your final change to make clear your meaning, sir.
Baby...my true colors are on full display. I dont have much love for douchebags. The Hands Up Boston group are a collection of douchebags. That has nothing to do with their race, but you desperately want to make it so. They are no different than the other douchebags that use tragedies to further their causes...and THAT has nothing to do with race...And you STILL want it desperately to be so.

Its rather comical you cant/wont see who the 'mindless douchebags' are since I have been quite clear about them from the very beginning. And you are jumping in...defending 'your own'.
 
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Denial is the first thing you need to address



We have those too but our crime rates are at the lowest on record



Having an even lower gun crime rate than the UK would suggest otherwise



Your 30K + deaths per annum suggest otherwise



Why is it Americans are so in denial about the price their wider society pays for shooting them ?
No denial. 120 million legal gun owners. We arent the problem. You might want to consider targeting the problem.
 
Shocking this happened in gun free boston,

Other than that, it's a good shoot. hope he's ok.
 
I cannot stand Obama, but, to say that this is on his head is ludicrous.
 
No denial. 120 million legal gun owners. We arent the problem. You might want to consider targeting the problem.

You seem to imagine that the US is the only country with crime issues. Its firearms violence thats a unique problem in the US amongst developed nations. Per capita your police are 17 times more likely to die in the line of duty than those in the UK (This Boston cop being the latest addition to that statistic). Your police forces are also over 2000 times more likely to kill a suspect than those in the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkX-UybXo_I

You can deny the problem exists all you like but that won't make the reality of it go away.
 
You seem to imagine that the US is the only country with crime issues. Its firearms violence thats a unique problem in the US amongst developed nations. Per capita your police are 17 times more likely to die in the line of duty than those in the UK (This Boston cop being the latest addition to that statistic). Your police forces are also over 2000 times more likely to kill a suspect than those in the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkX-UybXo_I

You can deny the problem exists all you like but that won't make the reality of it go away.
We do not have a firearm problem. Hell...we dont even have an illegal drug problem. We have a gang problem. We have a crime problem. You can BAN things...but how effective is that? (and if you need a hint, check out the amount of drug trafficking that occurs in the US). Until people have the balls to attack the crime problem, we will still have all those associated ills. Unfortunately...they dont. They dont have the guts to take on violent crime in this country. They dont have the guts to pass mandatory minimum sentencing laws. Instead they rush to pass pathetic laws like they did in New York following the Sandy Hook shootings which have done precisely dick. But thats OK...because they LIKE dick.
 
We do not have a firearm problem.

You've been given the figures so theres not a whole lot more I can add after that really :(

Until people have the balls to attack the crime problem, we will still have all those associated ills.

All other developed countries have crime too. They just have a lot less death associated with it
 
You've been given the figures so theres not a whole lot more I can add after that really :(



All other developed countries have crime too. They just have a lot less death associated with it
Target criminals...problems resolved. Target guns...law abiding citizens are impacted. You arent smart enough to get that, not much more I can add after that really.
 
Target criminals...problems resolved. Target guns...law abiding citizens are impacted. You arent smart enough to get that, not much more I can add after that really.

You blame the symptom not the cause and are in denial

Your criminals had to have gotten their guns from those very same 'law abiding citizens' in the first place.
 
The thug who shot this cop shouldn't even have been out on the streets. The gun-free streets, I might add. Good thing MA has such strong gun laws. :roll:
 
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