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Tsarnaev guilty in Boston bombing

Lursa said:
There are some that cannot be rehabilitated and some that can never be trusted in society again.

You are welcome to your opinion but in my opinion, for the protection of society, of course there should be prison sentences that are 'for the remainder' of someone's life.
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Perhaps, but if its impossible to create a system where they can be implemented fairly, reasonably, and efficiently, I would rather just release the dangerous people back into the herd. Life imprisonment should be reluctantly employed for the sake of public safety. It isn't a tool of justice in and of itself. In general, you do a bad crime, you die or get the 20.

The entire idea behind lengthening prison sentences in the United States was the government could be trusted to release rehabilitated people through the parole system when the time was right, but the process has been hyper politicized and bureaucratized so that this 'justice' happens in fits and starts.
 
Morality Games said:
Perhaps, but if its impossible to create a system where they can be implemented fairly, reasonably, and efficiently, I would rather just release the dangerous people back into the herd. Life imprisonment should be reluctantly employed for the sake of public safety. It isn't a tool of justice in and of itself. In general, you do a bad crime, you die or get the 20.

The entire idea behind lengthening prison sentences in the United States was the government could be trusted to release rehabilitated people through the parole system when the time was right, but the process has been hyper politicized and bureaucratized so that this 'justice' happens in fits and starts.
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Well, I would not want that. Public safety comes first and if one has transgressed (the convicted) and one has not (members of society), then IMO certainly society shouldnt be the one penalized and put at risk.
 
Morality Games said:
I might be, although not for Tsarnev specifically. No prison sentence should last longer than 20 years, and if you can't get someone executed in 20 years let them out.
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What utter rubbish, I am opposed to the death penalty due to the risks of executing someone later to be found innocent by exculpatory evidence, and in states without the death penalty the assertion that serial killers should be released after 20 years is almost as insane as they are.
 
Blemonds said:
Twenty years from now there'll be liberals marching in the streets with signs that say, "Free Tsarnev ".
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Not sure if they were "liberal" but I remember that he had protesters and twitter users calling for exactly that, I believe it is because they thought he was cute.
 
Those saying that they should have skipped the trial because the guy confesed should remember these cases

Guildford Four and Maguire Seven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the case of the Guildford four , (in which a confession was beaten out of the defendants) the judge expressed dissapointment with the prosecution that the defendants had not been charged with 'high treason against the crown' which at that point still carried the death penalty. So we got very close to executing 4 innocent people.
 
Forget the death penalty as it will take years of appeals and money and march his ass straight to general population.

I would only be for the death penalty if after the guilty verdict was announced of the 30 charges in the courtroom the judge would have said " Bailiff shoot him".
 
Blemonds said:
Twenty years from now there'll be liberals marching in the streets with signs that say, "Free Tsarnev ".
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I always thoroughly enjoy the fact that the anonymous nature of the internet allows morons to flourish.
 
Kobie said:
What the hell is the matter with you?
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What's the matter with me? No, what's the matter with you? It's your side that likes to lobby to release the violent criminals
 
Blemonds said:
What's the matter with me? No, what's the matter with you? It's your side that likes to lobby to release the violent criminals
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Please find this list of "liberals" clamoring for his release.
 
SMTA said:
I always thoroughly enjoy the fact that the anonymous nature of the internet allows morons to flourish.
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That's the beauty of the Internet, it allows even liberals to say whatever they wish to display their high and lofty tolerance
 
Blemonds said:
Did you miss the part where I said 20 YEARS FROM NOW
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Oh, so you're slandering the liberals from the future.

What violent criminals are "my side" attempting to free?
 
Charles P Pierce and Masha Gessen point out that there are unanswered questions in the Boston Marathon bombing case

. . . two critical questions have not been answered. Where were the bombs built? Investigators have testified that they were not built at the older brother's apartment or in the younger brother's dorm room. <snip> The other big question is: Why did the F.B.I. fail to identify Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the older brother, who had been fingered as a potential terrorist risk two years before the bombing and interviewed by field agents?
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Kobie said:
Oh, so you're slandering the liberals from the future.

What violent criminals are "my side" attempting to free?
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Mumia for one, Tsarnev is on the list for the future
 
Blemonds said:
Mumia for one, Tsarnev is on the list for the future
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Ah yes, Mumia. You can almost hear the groundswell of liberal support for him from the moon.
 
Kobie said:
Ah yes, Mumia. You can almost hear the groundswell of liberal support for him from the moon.
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Tsarnev's turn will come. No telling how many more will be in between then and now
 
Somerville said:
I agree, but at this time Tsarnaev is the only one who might be able to answer the questions
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It'll take years to kill him if they give him the death penalty. Given a little time inside, I'm sure they'll be able to offer him something worthwhile to get answers, *if* that is the case.
 
Kobie said:
Oh, so you're slandering the liberals from the future.

What violent criminals are "my side" attempting to free?
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Lol...

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Kobie said:
Oh, so you're slandering the liberals from the future.

What violent criminals are "my side" attempting to free?
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Really?

Seriously?

Joe Biden is personally working on getting Charles Manson and Ted Kaczynski released before Christmas.

Have you not you heard? :mrgreen:
 
face said:
What utter rubbish, I am opposed to the death penalty due to the risks of executing someone later to be found innocent by exculpatory evidence, and in states without the death penalty the assertion that serial killers should be released after 20 years is almost as insane as they are.
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The system that attitude maintain isn't a good or healthy justice system.

Serial killers might be an exception to the "not more than 20 years" thing. It depends.
 
Morality Games said:
The system that attitude maintain isn't a good or healthy justice system.

Serial killers might be an exception to the "not more than 20 years" thing. It depends.
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might be the exception? Supermax 23/7 lockdown forever.
 
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