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Rand Paul announces presidential run

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Expected. Rand Paul is officially in the race. Not a big announcement like Cruz, just a little posting on his website, but he is officially in the race. [/FONT][/COLOR]

The announcement is tonight in Kentucky at the Galt Hotel.


Paul is less of a nut than his dad, but he will face a hard ceiling in the Primary. This is going to be a campaign in which foreign policy matters.
 
When was the Last Constitutionalist that was in the White House?

Calvin Coolidge would be my guess, depending on how you measure.
 
Good thing a real libertarian is in the race.

Gary Johnson :usflag2:
 
He wont win because people wont take the time to understand his often complex thought processes. And really he is not representative of the majority of America which is mostly socialist or evangelical. But I cant say I disagree with most of what he stands for. I just wish he would run as an independent.

It should at least be fun debating his ideas on this forum.
 
How is Paul not a Constitutionalist, again? Seems he has trouble playing populist amongst those on the Right.

Something about being in favor of outlawing abortion Sen. Rand Paul introduces ‘fetal personhood’ bill to outlaw abortion Blocking NSA reform from even being debated Rand doesn't stand - POLITICO Pretty much saying that the constitution does not give the USSC the power to decide what is constitutional RAND PAUL: The Supreme Court Doesn't Get To Decide What's Constitutional - Business Insider ... If you ask me he talks a big game, but a lot of the actions he takes show that he doesnt live up to his talk.

I like the man on several of his stances, be it many of his foreign policy stances, but when it comes down to it, just seems like another right wing populist.
 
Something about being in favor of outlawing abortion Sen. Rand Paul introduces ‘fetal personhood’ bill to outlaw abortion Blocking NSA reform from even being debated Rand doesn't stand - POLITICO Pretty much saying that the constitution does not give the USSC the power to decide what is constitutional RAND PAUL: The Supreme Court Doesn't Get To Decide What's Constitutional - Business Insider ... If you ask me he talks a big game, but a lot of the actions he takes show that he doesnt live up to his talk.

I like the man on several of his stances, be it many of his foreign policy stances, but when it comes down to it, just seems like another right wing populist.



The truth of the matter he is far from being a populist.....even he says he is a little bit of a libertarian.

Myself, I think he can pull Iowa. But that's about as far as he goes. We don't need another model of a so called leader with hardly any experience leading the nation again.

All have learned their lesson with BO peep.....and now after the defeat of Hillary. Its going to be sometime before the Demos ever gain the WH again. Which for this country.....is a very good thing.
 



Not again? :doh

Tell Gary......NO, We all can't get a bong.
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The truth of the matter he is far from being a populist.....even he says he is a little bit of a libertarian.

Myself, I think he can pull Iowa. But that's about as far as he goes. We don't need another model of a so called leader with hardly any experience leading the nation again.

All have learned their lesson with BO peep.....and now after the defeat of Hillary. Its going to be sometime before the Demos ever gain the WH again. Which for this country.....is a very good thing.

LOL You think Jeb can defeat Hillary? That is a laugh. The GOP has given up actively seeking the Whitehouse they are far more comfortable as the Kurmudgeon party now. It fits them perfectly. A bunch of old white men keeping kids off their lawn.
 
LOL You think Jeb can defeat Hillary? That is a laugh. The GOP has given up actively seeking the Whitehouse they are far more comfortable as the Kurmudgeon party now. It fits them perfectly. A bunch of old white men keeping kids off their lawn.

What.....NO, try again. Not a Jeb nor a Jethro. Just sayin!

Oh, and you can forget about Hillary. First you have to hope she don't get charged with anything.
 
While my first choice for 2016 GOP ticket is still Cruz & Palin - I would also be very happy if the party tapped Paul to be their standard bearer.
 
I wouldn't hold my breath for a Rand Paul nomination. He has managed to alienate alot of the moderate liberals and libertarians that would have made up his base when he went full Tea Party nutter. And the Tea Partiers tend to prefer Ted Cruz. So basically he has screwed himself over.
 
The truth of the matter he is far from being a populist.....even he says he is a little bit of a libertarian.
"They thought all along that they could call me a libertarian and hang that label around my neck like an albatross, but I'm not a libertarian," " Rand Paul Leads GOP Kentucky Senate Race as Outsider - TIME

Myself, I think he can pull Iowa. But that's about as far as he goes. We don't need another model of a so called leader with hardly any experience leading the nation again.
I dont know last polls I saw Bush and Walker are polling pretty heavy...

All have learned their lesson with BO peep.....and now after the defeat of Hillary. Its going to be sometime before the Demos ever gain the WH again. Which for this country.....is a very good thing.
Meh dont play much into the hack argument.
 

He's realistic about his chances. Just because he doesn't come out guns a blazing claiming victory doesn't mean he's a terrible candidate. Also, I can imagine how running for President and having ballot access in every state yet not being invited to a major debate can be deflating. He has new fresh ideas that are actually different compared to the Republicrats, and he has no way of people to hear them because of the institutional bias against his party. I too would be slightly withdrawn when asked about running.
 
Would you prefer we anoint someone because they ****ed a president?

The first GOP debate in Ohio in August will be must-see viewing.
Paul and Cruz will be at each other's throats, as well as Rubio taking on Bush.
Walker and Kasich will look like the adults.

Paul has his Father's legendary ground game and an impressive internet force--millions of small donors like Obama in 2008.
Reaching out to non-GOP constituencies will be a plus--New Hampshire's primary is an open one.

I eventually expect to see Paul go 3rd party in 2020, when he'll be a sitting Senator and may have picked up a few billionaire bag men by then.
It will take him that long to build the 50-state structure from top-to-bottom he'll need .
 
He's realistic about his chances. Just because he doesn't come out guns a blazing claiming victory doesn't mean he's a terrible candidate. Also, I can imagine how running for President and having ballot access in every state yet not being invited to a major debate can be deflating. He has new fresh ideas that are actually different compared to the Republicrats, and he has no way of people to hear them because of the institutional bias against his party. I too would be slightly withdrawn when asked about running.

Don't get me wrong, I like the guy. hell, I voted for him last time.
 
Yes--the civil war has not gone away.
The AAN/Elites/RINOs/right-of-centers are already attacking Paul as well as TEA candidates for 2016 as well as TEA Congressmen of which they want to get rid.

So, the Freedom Caucus/Amash-Paulites/TEAs, will continue to block Boehner from approving anything of value in the House.
Unless of course John keeps going to Pelosi begging, as he did on the Cromnibus and DHS .

Looks like he will start off with some flak too.

No, not from the left or the MS Media either. Just Republicans.
 
Don't get me wrong, I like the guy. hell, I voted for him last time.

I mean its understandable to be concerned about his lack of enthusiasm, but he still gets my vote over these other clowns.
 
Especially since you have an open primary.
And his father was popular in Iowa--closed primary .

That's good. I don't think I'll be voting for him but I'll listen to what he has to say. He'll be spending a lot of time here so I'll get to meet him hopefully soon.
 
He shouldnt. He lost. Time to give someone else a shot.

Unusual News - Learning From Defeat

Learning From Defeat…31 of 43 Presidents Lost Elections before Winning Presidency

Getting to the White House means dealing with defeat. Of the 43 men who have served as president of the United States, 31 of them lost at least one race during their political career.

The list of those who overcame losing (as complied by Larry Sabato and associates at the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics) includes Thomas Jefferson, who lost the 1796 presidential election before tasting victory in 1800.

In fact, the four presidents who followed Jefferson also endured some kind of defeat before they became commander-in-chief: James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams and Andrew Jackson.

Other presidents who fall into this category are Teddy Roosevelt, who failed to be elected New York City mayor in 1886, and Richard Nixon, who suffered defeat in the 1960 presidential contest and the California gubernatorial race only two years later.

The record holders are William Henry Harrison, who was defeated five times before being elected president in 1840, and Abraham Lincoln, James Buchanan and Benjamin Harrison, who lost four elections each.

The phenomenon of pre-presidential losses is by no means ancient history. In fact, surprising as it may seem, of the last 16 presidents, going back 90 years, the only ones who didn’t lose an election were Dwight Eisenhower, who had never run for office of any kind before he was elected president in 1952, and Gerald Ford, who became U.S. president without ever having run in a national election.

All this bodes well for the current crop of Republican hopefuls, considering that Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain and Rick Santorum have all been defeated in at least one election.
 
And run for both Senator and President at the same time since Kentucky just changed their law to allow this.
His own Repubbies will prove soon enough the glass house he lives in.
In fact, the AAN has already started to bash him .

I love these "anti establishment" slogans, "Help me defeat Washington by allowing me to become Washington!"
 
Johnson will have more money since he is now a CEO in the marihuana business .

Good thing a real libertarian is in the race.

Gary Johnson :usflag2:
 
Johnson will have more money since he is now a CEO in the marihuana business .

I doubt he will spend his own money on another run.
 
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