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Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

The EU can't afford to lose business with the US. Moreover this isn't giving the Iranians a chance to not make a bomb.

The Iranians are doing the same thing as NKorea did with Bill Clinton. Which is why the Iranians are using the NKoreas same end run play. No discussion on their Military Programs and their ballistics.

Do you think the Iranians can be set up, and made so angry that they would do the Stupid and utter those 7 words we want to hear? That would be.....We Declare War on the United States.

As then there is Only one response and Iran will no longer be a problem in the world anymore.

At least you admit that you only want war with Iran. So many are claiming there are other alternatives to this agreement. Let the Israeli's do it since they are trying to kill the talks.
 
At least you admit that you only want war with Iran. So many are claiming there are other alternatives to this agreement. Let the Israeli's do it since they are trying to kill the talks.

Well not really, after I said there could still be a political negotiation and that the last resort that all are looking to avoid. Still might take place.

All it takes is the Iranians to not agree or keep doing what they have been. Its a consideration that can't be taken off the table.....Correct?
 
Well not really, after I said there could still be a political negotiation and that the last resort that all are looking to avoid. Still might take place.

All it takes is the Iranians to not agree or keep doing what they have been. Its a consideration that can't be taken off the table.....Correct?

No I don't think we will invade Iran EVEN if they continue to make a bomb. We might try to bomb them but it will only delay the inevitable and cause even more unrest inthe area. The best hope is to make it better for Iran to not make a bomb. Threatening invasion will only harden their resolve.
 
This is all about Obama's legacy.

You mean the legacy of being a relatively moderate president, who makes pragmatic policy decisions in the best strategic and economic interest of his country. Sounds like a legacy Obama should continue to pursue.
 
Is he right?

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Washington (CNN)—A key Senate Democrat is throwing his weight behind a proposal that would allow Congress to reject the Iran nuclear deal, complicating President Barack Obama's efforts to dodge Republican opposition and lock in the pact on his own.

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer said Monday that he is backing legislation introduced by Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) to give Congress the ability to halt the implementation of the deal once the United States and five other world powers finalize the details in the coming months.

"This is a very serious issue that deserves careful consideration, and I expect to have a classified briefing in the near future. I strongly believe Congress should have the right to disapprove any agreement and I support the Corker bill which would allow that to occur," Schumer told Politico on Monday.


Schumer: Congress should OK Iran deal - CNN.com

The problem is Obama is extremely narcissistic and working with others is out of the question. Even his own party. Harry Reid and Pelosi did everthing Obama asked them to do. Robert Menendez was the only one that spoke out against Obama now hopefully Schumer will stand up when they see this narcissist running off crazy.

However in the end, there will never be a deal that will include "free and immediate inspections anytime anywhere". Without this there is no verification and the deal that Obama will accept is useless.
 
No I don't think we will invade Iran EVEN if they continue to make a bomb. We might try to bomb them but it will only delay the inevitable and cause even more unrest inthe area. The best hope is to make it better for Iran to not make a bomb. Threatening invasion will only harden their resolve.



Well who said anything about invading.....also do you think some others might be in on that action if Iran, decided they didn't want to play anymore. Again, I doubt any has taken it off the table. That Iran may not agree to anything if they don't get what they want.
 
The problem is Obama is extremely narcissistic and working with others is out of the question. Even his own party. Harry Reid and Pelosi did everthing Obama asked them to do. Robert Menendez was the only one that spoke out against Obama now hopefully Schumer will stand up when they see this narcissist running off crazy.

However in the end, there will never be a deal that will include "free and immediate inspections anytime anywhere". Without this there is no verification and the deal that Obama will accept is useless.

This agreement is a joint exercise which all parties must agree to. Your comments about Obama are not relevant or truthful. They make me think that the only thing you care about is that it will be a victory of Obama which you can't abide. That is also not true or relevant. A successful agreement will benefit all the world.
 
Schumer is an idiot- according to the treaty clause it is the POTUS that negotiates with foreign powers, not Congress. What exactly has Schumer done in all his years in Congress anyway? He's a career politician who sits on the fence on everything and only gets on TV so he can get reelected.

False. By the treaty clause the President needs the consent of the Senate.
 
This agreement is a joint exercise which all parties must agree to. Your comments about Obama are not relevant or truthful. They make me think that the only thing you care about is that it will be a victory of Obama which you can't abide. That is also not true or relevant. A successful agreement will benefit all the world.

Any agreement with Iran will be useless unless the agreement contains "free and immediate inspections anytime anywhere", I don't give a damn who's is in office. Without that clause in place there is no true verification. Period
 
Is he right?

<snip>


Washington (CNN)—A key Senate Democrat is throwing his weight behind a proposal that would allow Congress to reject the Iran nuclear deal, complicating President Barack Obama's efforts to dodge Republican opposition and lock in the pact on his own.

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer said Monday that he is backing legislation introduced by Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) to give Congress the ability to halt the implementation of the deal once the United States and five other world powers finalize the details in the coming months.

"This is a very serious issue that deserves careful consideration, and I expect to have a classified briefing in the near future. I strongly believe Congress should have the right to disapprove any agreement and I support the Corker bill which would allow that to occur," Schumer told Politico on Monday.


Schumer: Congress should OK Iran deal - CNN.com

It is refreshing to see the left finally stand-up to King Hussein for his reckless lawless unconstitutional behavior.
 
This agreement is a joint exercise which all parties must agree to. Your comments about Obama are not relevant or truthful. They make me think that the only thing you care about is that it will be a victory of Obama which you can't abide. That is also not true or relevant. A successful agreement will benefit all the world.

You do know that any party can agree to a really bad deal. And Obama is on a path of agreeing to a really bad deal. Further that deal will not include "free and immediate inspections anytime anywhere" thus the deal that Obama will agree too is useless. Without true verification you have nothing.
 
That is true. I just hope that the US is not the reason that Iran makes a nuclear weapon in the near future. Since I don't believe we will invade that means Iran will quite possibly ignite an nuclear arms race in the M.E. Just what that region needs and it could again be our fault.

If Iran intends to build nuclear weapons, they are going to do so unless stopped. Blaming the US for Iran building nukes is ludicrous. If we are to be blamed for anything, it's not stopping them in that quest. Barack "Neville Chamberlain" Obama does not seem to care whether Iran gets nukes as long as one is not produced on his watch.
 
At least you admit that you only want war with Iran. So many are claiming there are other alternatives to this agreement. Let the Israeli's do it since they are trying to kill the talks.

An all out war with Iran is not needed to stop them from producing nukes We do not need a ground invasion. A few well placed bunker buster bombs and stealth bomber runs could set them back decades.
 
You mean the legacy of being a relatively moderate president, who makes pragmatic policy decisions in the best strategic and economic interest of his country. Sounds like a legacy Obama should continue to pursue.

Another moron president by the name of Jimmuh Carter made a similar agreement with North Korea. They were cheating before the ink was dry on the signed agreement. It's foolish to assume that we can trust the Iranians will not behave similarly.
 
The problem is Obama is extremely narcissistic and working with others is out of the question. Even his own party. Harry Reid and Pelosi did everthing Obama asked them to do. Robert Menendez was the only one that spoke out against Obama now hopefully Schumer will stand up when they see this narcissist running off crazy.

However in the end, there will never be a deal that will include "free and immediate inspections anytime anywhere". Without this there is no verification and the deal that Obama will accept is useless.

And Obama will respond with a shrug.
 
An all out war with Iran is not needed to stop them from producing nukes We do not need a ground invasion. A few well placed bunker buster bombs and stealth bomber runs could set them back decades.

How do you know how long bombs will set them back? Do you think they will retaliate on ships in the Straights of Hormuz?
 
If Iran intends to build nuclear weapons, they are going to do so unless stopped. Blaming the US for Iran building nukes is ludicrous. If we are to be blamed for anything, it's not stopping them in that quest. Barack "Neville Chamberlain" Obama does not seem to care whether Iran gets nukes as long as one is not produced on his watch.

So it is just like N. Korea then. We will back out of negotiations that might make it advantageous for them to halt their nuclear program and threaten them with attack. That worked so well for GW Bush and N. Korea. I guess he didn't even care if they got nukes on his watch. You have no clue what Obama wants either.
 
Another moron president by the name of Jimmuh Carter made a similar agreement with North Korea.

Jimmy Carter is the only US president to have achieved a semblance of peace in the Middle East. Compared to Reagan, Carter was a monumental success.
 
Jimmy Carter is the only US president to have achieved a semblance of peace in the Middle East. Compared to Reagan, Carter was a monumental success.

I guess you forgot the Iran Hostage Crisis, 52 Americans held for 444 days under Carter's watch. I think those 52 Americans will tell you it was no peaceful time.
 
I guess you forgot the Iran Hostage Crisis, 52 Americans held for 444 days under Carter's watch. I think those 52 Americans will tell you it was no peaceful time.

I bet the nearly 3000 Americans who died on Bush's watch would tell you he wasn't the greatest defense against Islamic terrorism.
 
I bet the nearly 3000 Americans who died on Bush's watch would tell you he wasn't the greatest defense against Islamic terrorism.

First you were comparing spineless Carter to Reagan. And 9-11 was after spineless Carter was kicked out of office. I quote.

"Jimmy Carter is the only US president to have achieved a semblance of peace in the Middle East. Compared to Reagan, Carter was a monumental succes"

Yeah well if Clinton was not spineless he would have taken out OBL before Bush was president.
 
Did Congress have to ratify our nuclear agreements with North Korea, Libya, etc?

If not, then there's no reason to require it now.
 
Did Congress have to ratify our nuclear agreements with North Korea, Libya, etc?

If not, then there's no reason to require it now.



To late now.....Corker will push the bill. Shumer will vote for it.....and he just gave BO the message. You will come before Congress with any deal over Iran.
 
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