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Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

MildSteel said:
Any rate, there are people in Iran that are happy as a result of this framework agreement. I am happy for them and wish them the best.

Hats off to Obama for having the courage to push this thing through.
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Not just the courage, but the patience and form to endure all republican attempts to derail it. It would appear that the republicans are opposed to the P5+1 preventing an Iranian nuclear weapons program. A missed opportunity for another ME war!
 
Montecresto said:
Not just the courage, but the patience and form to endure all republican attempts to derail it. It would appear that the republicans are opposed to the P5+1 preventing an Iranian nuclear weapons program. A missed opportunity for another ME war!
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Yeah, which gives the appearance that Republicans have not seen a war that they do not like.
 
Phys251 said:
Hardliners in both Iran and the United States will not be happy. Civilized people will be happy.

Obama has proven yet again that good diplomacy works. Just think about what this man has done now: In less than one year, he has helped to thaw relations with two nations with whom we have had next to zero diplomatic ties for decades. Compare this progress with that of his predecessor!
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Obama has done nothing good at all. His policies have destablized the region, and now ISIS is tearing all over the fertile crescent and taking heads. Yemen has fallen. Libya is a haven for international terrorists. Israel has been alienated. Iraq is falling into Iranian hands. Iran is still going to get a bomb and has taken control over more territory than ever.
 
LowDown said:
Obama has done nothing good at all. His policies have destablized the region, and now ISIS is tearing all over the fertile crescent and taking heads. Yemen has fallen. Libya is a haven for international terrorists. Israel has been alienated. Iraq is falling into Iranian hands. Iran is still going to get a bomb and has taken control over more territory than ever.
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Decades of USFP have destabilised the ME. From the 2006 NIE!!

WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 — A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/world/middleeast/24terror.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
 
MildSteel said:
Any rate, there are people in Iran that are happy as a result of this framework agreement. I am happy for them and wish them the best.

Hats off to Obama for having the courage to push this thing through.
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lol, and when Iran gets the bomb, what will you say then? or will you blame it on the republican in office?
 
Phys251 said:
Hardliners in both Iran and the United States will not be happy. Civilized people will be happy.

Obama has proven yet again that good diplomacy works. Just think about what this man has done now: In less than one year, he has helped to thaw relations with two nations with whom we have had next to zero diplomatic ties for decades. Compare this progress with that of his predecessor!
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Indeed. Warmongers think that good diplomacy is weakness.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
lol, and when Iran gets the bomb, what will you say then? or will you blame it on the republican in office?
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This effort will help prevent Iran from getting a bomb. Bombing will make it more likely that they will want to have one.
 
This is a MASSIVE victory to Iran. They are getting an entire huge modern Air Force and Army out of this deal, the government can declare they broke the will of the United States, and can laugh at every USA ally in the region.
 
MildSteel said:
Obama has engaged in good diplomacy, not war mongering.
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Obama has become the greatest military and expansionism ally Iran has.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
His drone and bombing victims would disagree.
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Democrats don't count those. Besides, the drones are dropping only large bundles of money, like Obama is dropping on Iran now.
 
j-mac said:
Amazing what one can get when they bend over and take it without expecting anything in return isn't it?
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And how is it that the framework for a deal that prevents Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, is bending over and taking it, hmm?
 
Montecresto said:
And how is it that the framework for a deal that prevents Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, is bending over and taking it, hmm?
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Let me ask you. One of the key components is that Iran has to give up thousands of pounds of enriched uranium, we want them to export it, they amd this is a sticking point to them, want to "dilute it" themselves.



Why? if their program was "peaceful", then why spend money on something we were willing to take care of for free?
 
j-mac said:
Amazing what one can get when they bend over and take it without expecting anything in return isn't it?
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The U.S. got something in return.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
lol, and when Iran gets the bomb, what will you say then? or will you blame it on the republican in office?
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It is known the answer is yes. But read this forum. A large percentage of Democrats WANT Iran to have nuclear weapons because they claim this is only fair.

That is what foreign policy is supposed to be about, being fair to our adversaries.

With all the money - tens of billions - the deal is worth to Iran really we should sell Iran our best aircraft, anti-air missiles, ballistic missiles, heavy tanks and nuclear submarines - rather than Iran buying them from Russia and China. Then Obama can also boast that the deal is an American jobs program.

And putting more Iranian oil on the International also boasted of as environmentalism being an alternative to planet-killing Keystone pipeline plan.

This is a really nice deal, so very fair to the wonderfully enlightened and civil rights loving Iranian Shia theocracy re-establishing the Persian Empire as a Shia law superpower. It's the only fair thing to do.

Homosexuals, Jews, Christians, women and anyone else who doesn't like it should get out of their rather than being malcontents. And, with open borders they can all come to the USA. We should offer free airline tickets.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
His drone and bombing victims would disagree.
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With regards to the nuclear negotiations with Iran, it was not warmongering. Since you approve of warmongering, I would think you would be happy about Obama's use of drones and bombs. It appears that is what strength is about to you.
 
MildSteel said:
North Korea did not get a bomb until after it kicked out the inspectors.
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So, we give them all this ****, let them do all thier nuclear stuff, then we trust they won't kick out inspectors as they have done in the past?
 
MildSteel said:
With regards to the nuclear negotiations with Iran, it was not warmongering. Since you approve of warmongering, I would think you would be happy about Obama's use of drones and bombs. It appears that is what strength is about to you.
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I'm a pacifist, bro.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
So, we give them all this ****, let them do all thier nuclear stuff, then we trust they won't kick out inspectors as they have done in the past?
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Iran knows how to enrich uranium, that is the bottom line. You will not change the fact that they know exactly how to enrich uranium by bombing them. As such, they way forward is inspections and integrating them into the international community that minimizes the chances that Iran will develop a bomb. We fought a terrible war with both Germany and Japan. Although both are capable, neither country is developing nuclear weapons because they have been integrated into the international community.
 
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