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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

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How many GAY Muslims are bakers?

Im going to say there are a ton more "Gay christian pizza shops" then " Gay Muslim Bakeries"
 
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Grim17 said:
If that's the case, then you are saying that the Muslim bakers in Dearborn are extremists, because as the video clearly depicts, they refuse to decorate a cake with any references to homosexuality at all, much less cater a gay wedding.

I thank you for your honesty though, because it isn't often a liberal will spill the beans on their true feelings.
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so these Muslim bakers are EXTREMISTS!!!!! OHHHHH MMMYYYY!!!.. to me I had them down as "moderates or even on the more docile side"... but yes.. we see the tolerance of Islam ...

Wheres Barack Hussein Obama?
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
So, does a black baker have to make a klan cake?

Does a northern Irish protestant have to make a pizza for a irish unification event?

Does a jewish baker have to bake a cake for a holocost denier?


I've been asking questions like this for days, but none of you seem to want to answer. ;)
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I've answered these questions a billion times. So long as the business owner is offering the same service and product as he does to everyone else, yes, yes and yes.
 
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Cardinal said:
I've answered these questions a billion times. Yes, yes and yes.
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I missed yours, thanks for you honestly but that's insane.


If I walked into a potential customer and they had klan **** all over the walls, I'd tell them to go **** themselves, We don't serve thier kind. That is, or should be my right.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I missed yours, thanks for you honestly but that's insane.


If I walked into a potential customer and they had klan **** all over the walls, I'd tell them to go **** themselves, We don't serve thier kind. That is, or should be my right.
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All you could really hope for is that the product/service they're requesting is different than the one you offer everyone else. Them's the breaks.
 
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Travis007 said:
so these Muslim bakers are EXTREMISTS!!!!! OHHHHH MMMYYYY!!!.. to me I had them down as "moderates or even on the more docile side"... but yes.. we see the tolerance of Islam ...

Wheres Barack Hussein Obama?
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Moderator's Warning:
Knock this off.

To everyone:

Stick to the topic and leave out the baiting and personal comments.
 
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Cardinal said:
All you could really hope for is that the product/service they're requesting is different than the one you offer everyone else. Them's the breaks.
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See, this is coercion, and it's wrong.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
See, this is coercion, and it's wrong.
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Since when have liberals cared about that? Ok, when it comes to abortion they care, but since when have they cared about that besides abortion? :D
 
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Wiggen said:
No, I'm saying Evangelical Christians have the same attitude towards homosexuality as do Muslim extremists. Fortunately for the rest of us, we haven't yet let them take over the country.
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Well, that's just nonsense....I'm not so sure that Evangelical Christians really give it much, if any thought in their day to day lives....And what exactly do you mean by "take over the country"? You mean be able to live their own lives according to their own beliefs even if you disagree with them? or what?
 
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Gina said:
Moderator's Warning:
Knock this off.

To everyone:

Stick to the topic and leave out the baiting and personal comments.
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The post was tongue in cheek ( if that had to be explained...geezus)
and it was on topic and to prove the absurdity of it all....
 
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Travis007 said:
The post was tongue in cheek ( if that had to be explained...geezus)
and it was on topic and to prove the absurdity of it all....
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Ruh roh...
 
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j-mac said:
Well, that's just nonsense....I'm not so sure that Evangelical Christians really give it much, if any thought in their day to day lives....And what exactly do you mean by "take over the country"? You mean be able to live their own lives according to their own beliefs even if you disagree with them? or what?
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yes by "taking over " he meant " he wants them "rolled over by the liberal agenda"...
my point is look at the narrative here? the liberals are on dangerous slippery slope.. but we know they are the biggest hypocrites and do not want any freedoms from the tyranny
 
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Cardinal said:
Ruh roh...
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what happened ... you tried to order the Muslim gay wedding cake?

get the gay Pizza.. much better..and safer
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
So, does a black baker have to make a klan cake?

Does a northern Irish protestant have to make a pizza for a irish unification event?

Does a jewish baker have to bake a cake for a holocost denier?


I've been asking questions like this for days, but none of you seem to want to answer. ;)
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It's actually pretty simple. A business has complete control to decide what services they will and what services they will not perform, they just can't discriminate as to who they will perform them for.

If a baker doesn't want to make a type of cake, if a singer doesn't want to sing a particular song, if a photographer doesn't want to photograph a type of event, that's fine. And no one is insisting that this should be any other way. However that business can't pick and choose, providing the exact same service to one person, but refusing to provide that service to another.

For example, a baker that makes a penis shaped cake for a bachelorette party can't refuse to make that same cake for a gay persons birthday. But if you went to a second baker and asked for penis shaped cake which they had never made for anyone, then they'd be 100% within their rights to refuse to make it.
 
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Mithros said:
It's actually pretty simple. A business has complete control to decide what services they will and what services they will not perform, they just can't discriminate as to who they will perform them for.

If a baker doesn't want to make a type of cake, if a singer doesn't want to sing a particular song, if a photographer doesn't want to photograph a type of event, that's fine. And no one is insisting that this should be any other way. However that business can't pick and choose, providing the exact same service to one person, but refusing to provide that service to another.

For example, a baker that makes a penis shaped cake for a bachelorette party can't refuse to make that same cake for a gay persons birthday. But if you went to a second baker and asked for penis shaped cake which they had never made for anyone, then they'd be 100% within their rights to refuse to make it.
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So, if I make a cake once, I have to make it again, period? Let's add to that, can I charge one person more, or are my prices being set as well by external forces?
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
So, if I make a cake once, I have to make it again, period? Let's add to that, can I charge one person more, or are my prices being set as well by external forces?
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You don't have to stay in business. But if you want to sell your cakes to the public, your focus should be on business and not religion. A "Christian business model" is an oxymoron.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Protected classes are wrong.
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I disagree. If certain members of the majority didn't feel the compulsion to discriminate against minorities protected classes wouldn't be necessary in the first place.
 
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Kushinator said:
You don't have to stay in business. But if you want to sell your cakes to the public, your focus should be on business and not religion. A "Christian business model" is an oxymoron.
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Not seeing the relevancy to my post, sorry.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
So, if I make a cake once, I have to make it again, period? Let's add to that, can I charge one person more, or are my prices being set as well by external forces?
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Most laws rely on a "reasonable person standard". It's a good idea to try and apply it here.

What would a reasonable person think of a business that made one type of product, and then decided for whatever reason, not to make it again?
What would a reasonable person think of a business that makes on type of product, except when a gay person asks for it?


Businesses are free to base what they provide on any moral standard they wish. They don't get to make any moral judgements on the people they're providing their goods or services to.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Not seeing the relevancy to my post, sorry.
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That might have to do with the inherent irrelevance of your comment. I was just pointing it out.
 
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Cardinal said:
I disagree. If certain members of the majority didn't feel the compulsion to discriminate against minorities protected classes wouldn't be necessary in the first place.
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Protected classes keep a division, one that is often subconsciously or not, designed to keep that voting block/divide. Soft racism.
 
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Mithros said:
Most laws rely on a "reasonable person standard". It's a good idea to try and apply it here.

What would a reasonable person think of a business that made one type of product, and then decided for whatever reason, not to make it again?
What would a reasonable person think of a business that makes on type of product, except when a gay person asks for it?
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What if it's happenstance. Dude just don't like makin penis cakes.
 
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