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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Moving the goal posts are we?

Refusing to bake pizza for a gay wedding is discrimination. Unless the pizzeria doesn't cater at all. The goal posts are where they've always been.
 
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If discrimination is ugly, then stop supporting it. The cataclysmic hypocrisy should be blinding. Why isn't it? Why do troops lie about the facts?

Why not close down the Muslim Bakeries? Why not threaten the livelihood of other people of faith by forcing them to violate their beliefs?

It's obvious what is going on.

So far, it seems people are willing to donate almost a $1 million to prove how much they are sickened by the actions of these terribly misguided people.

Nobody has closed down anything other than the owners of said businesses. You're acting as if The Gay Mafia is running around hanging "CLOSED FOREVER" signs on the doors of businesses that refuse to serve them.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Refusing to bake pizza for a gay wedding is discrimination. Unless the pizzeria doesn't cater at all. The goal posts are where they've always been.
The objection was against Gay marriage, not Gays, and that's a position most politicians have taken.
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No, Muslims must be held to the same standards as all Americans. Zero tolerance for discrimination, no exceptions.
It would be interesting to watch the law being enforced!!
 
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It would be interesting to watch the law being enforced!!

About as interesting as watching the law be enforced on Christians who insist on discriminating on the merits of their faith.
 
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Why am I wasting my time responding to this? I've heard less name calling from a third grader at recess.

You can't just look at what the man does(sit in a room, alone, for 3 hours, no guests, just his opinions) and the unbelievable success he has had. You can't even give props to him for that?
I think michael moore is the biggest load on two feet, but notice I don't name call him or say he has no talent. OBVIOUSLY he has SOME talent. My own opinions don't blind me from that. but you......you have some real problems with seeing past your own politics. If they don't agree with YOU then they MUST be morons, right? I can't think of anything more narrow minded than that. but whatever helps you sleep at night

I love you Limbaugh worshippers. He's a vicious, excrement loaded piece of trash. He appeals to low intellects. Michael Moore is just the opposite side of the same coin.
 
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yeah but there is difference in saying "I don't agree with your politics" and saying hateful crap like that about someone. At some point it becomes counterproductive to vilify your opponents to the extent that most liberals do. There are still people who think GW should be in jail for war crimes for christs sake. You call that reasonable? I don't. Its just someone trying to rationalize their own views by making demons of everyone NOT on their side. simple as that

I'm amazed at those who defend the serial womanizing dope addict and pretend he's some great source of wisdom.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

That is true. Nobody is forcing me to be a Christian.


Also true. Nobody can force a straight Christian to be, oh, a gay atheist.



Again true. Your interpretation of what this means, however, is inaccurate.

No institution should force your gay atheist to attend a religious ceremony, and no institution should force the religious to attend a secular ceremony. very simple principal.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

About as interesting as watching the law be enforced on Christians who insist on discriminating on the merits of their faith.
Do you think Muslims would turn the other cheek, as Christians do? It seems you've not heard of Muslim attitudes toward Gays.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Refusing to bake pizzas for a gay wedding, is refusing to bake pizza for gay people, what's wrong with you.

Sorry, but no it isn't.

Refusing to serve 2 gay people who came in to the restaurant, sat down and ordered a pizza, is discriminating against gay people. Refusing to cater a gay wedding is refusing to take part in a ceremony that violates the religious tenets of most Christians, Muslims and Jews. It is the event that they refuse to take part in, not the serving of gay people.

Of course you know this, just like everyone knows this, whether they admit it or not.

The reality is, this is an assault against people of faith by the anti-religious bigots on the political left. They want to force them to either renounce their faith, violate their faith, or be financially destroyed if they refuse to comply. They are demonstrating exactly what hate, bigotry and intolerance looks like.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Sorry, but no it isn't.

Refusing to serve 2 gay people who came in to the restaurant, sat down and ordered a pizza, is discriminating against gay people. Refusing to cater a gay wedding is refusing to take part in a ceremony that violates the religious tenets of most Christians, Muslims and Jews. It is the event that they refuse to take part in, not the serving of gay people.

Of course you know this, just like everyone knows this, whether they admit it or not.

The reality is, this is an assault against people of faith by the anti-religious bigots on the political left. They want to force them to either renounce their faith, violate their faith, or be financially destroyed if they refuse to comply. They are demonstrating exactly what hate, bigotry and intolerance looks like.

It's amazing to me the lengths some people will go to spin this. :lamo
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Sorry, but no it isn't.

Refusing to serve 2 gay people who came in to the restaurant, sat down and ordered a pizza, is discriminating against gay people. Refusing to cater a gay wedding is refusing to take part in a ceremony that violates the religious tenets of most Christians, Muslims and Jews. It is the event that they refuse to take part in, not the serving of gay people.

Of course you know this, just like everyone knows this, whether they admit it or not.

The reality is, this is an assault against people of faith by the anti-religious bigots on the political left. They want to force them to either renounce their faith, violate their faith, or be financially destroyed if they refuse to comply. They are demonstrating exactly what hate, bigotry and intolerance looks like.
Most leftists will probably understand this at some level but their ideological zealotry always comes first, often making rational thinking difficult or impossible..
 
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Do you think Muslims would turn the other cheek, as Christians do? It seems you've not heard of Muslim attitudes toward Gays.

No, I think that anti-discrimination laws should be enforced, period.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Sorry, but no it isn't.

Refusing to serve 2 gay people who came in to the restaurant, sat down and ordered a pizza, is discriminating against gay people. Refusing to cater a gay wedding is refusing to take part in a ceremony that violates the religious tenets of most Christians, Muslims and Jews. It is the event that they refuse to take part in, not the serving of gay people.

Of course you know this, just like everyone knows this, whether they admit it or not.

The reality is, this is an assault against people of faith by the anti-religious bigots on the political left. They want to force them to either renounce their faith, violate their faith, or be financially destroyed if they refuse to comply. They are demonstrating exactly what hate, bigotry and intolerance looks like.

They do not need to participate in a ceremony, that's ridiculous. They need to bake pizzas and then set them out on tables for the guests. What are you talking about?
 
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No, I think that anti-discrimination laws should be enforced, period.
If their is discrimination then of course the laws should be enforced, but that wasn't the question. Do you really believe the Gay activists and their followers would complain about mistreatment from Muslims??? They can hang them by the truckload in Muslim countries and the Gay lobby and their sycophants here won't make a murmur.
 
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No institution should force your gay atheist to attend a religious ceremony, and no institution should force the religious to attend a secular ceremony. very simple principal.

If a gay atheist has a problem with catering a religious ceremony (providing the same service he provides to anyone else) then he can cater to the event or he can risk a lawsuit by turning it down on the basis of the customer's religion. His choice.

Anyway, you've made your feelings clear and there's really nothing left for you to add, I suspect. You believe that discrimination is acceptable if it's supported by religious belief, but realistically speaking that's not the direction the country is heading in. Sooner than not, sexual orientation is going to be a protected class on the Federal level. At that point, Christians are going to have to make a choice: risk the government's wrath and discriminate, suck it up and stay in business, or close up shop altogether. Whichever they choose, honestly I couldn't care less. It's their problem, not mine.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

They do not need to participate in a ceremony, that's ridiculous. They need to bake pizzas and then set them out on tables for the guests. What are you talking about?
They would rather not and their right to not attend a gay wedding, or any public or private ritual, should be respected..
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

If a gay atheist has a problem with catering a religious ceremony (providing the same service he provides to anyone else) then he can cater to the event or he can risk a lawsuit by turning it down on the basis of the customer's religion. His choice.

Anyway, you've made your feelings clear and there's really nothing left for you to add, I suspect. You believe that discrimination is acceptable if it's supported by religious belief, but realistically speaking that's not the direction the country is heading in. Sooner than not, sexual orientation is going to be a protected class on the Federal level. At that point, Christians are going to have to make a choice: risk the government's wrath and discriminate, suck it up and stay in business, or close up shop altogether. Whichever they choose, honestly I couldn't care less. It's their problem, not mine.

It's not your problem until you are forced to participate in something with which you disagree. First they came for the Jews, etc.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

If their is discrimination then of course the laws should be enforced, but that wasn't the question. Do you really believe the Gay activists and their followers would complain about mistreatment from Muslims??? They can hang them by the truckload in Muslim countries and the Gay lobby and their sycophants here won't make a murmur.

Yes, they will be opposing all discrimination, not just when it's by the Christian community.

Video puts Muslim bakeries, florists in gay-rights spotlight - Washington Times
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

If their is discrimination then of course the laws should be enforced, but that wasn't the question. Do you really believe the Gay activists and their followers would complain about mistreatment from Muslims??? .

Yes I do.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

It's not your problem until you are forced to participate in something with which you disagree. First they came for the Jews, etc.

Oh yeah, this is totally the beginning of a Nazi grade holocaust. First Christians will have to sell cakes to gays, then they're going to be killed in gas in chambers. Good one.
 
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