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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Oh ffs does it really tax your imagination to think that you and I could both agree on a type of person being objectively terrible?
Yes, it does, I believe the pizza shop owner was doing the right thing whereas you don't
 
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Yes, it does, I believe the pizza shop owner was doing the right thing whereas you don't

So if I said "A Nazi is a bad person," you'd be forced to disagree? Before you immediately smash the "reply" button, think on why I asked that. It will require you go back a couple posts.
 
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Again, a civilized society does not force people to act against their consciences. And yes, people are forced to engage in commerce to which they object or be forced out of the marketplace. Frankly, that's bigotry sanctioned by the government, no different than the Jim Crow Laws
You are confused on purposely obtuse or perhaps simply lack the capacity to grasp this issue.
People are not forced to engage in commerce. Those who do through an establishment open to the public are expected to live up to the obligation of serving the public. That is what they take on they they open a business to the public. If they want to remain ignorant bigots they can do that too by opening their business only to certain clientele. Behavior in civilized society includes living up to obligations one takes on. Why is this so very difficult for yo and many others here to grasp?
 
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I find your tactic of acting deliberately obtuse boring. Go troll someone else if that's how you want to play it.

And you deliberately don't want to see what is on the video.

No surprise though.
 
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Sorry, but that comment doesn't seem to apply. Discrimination is part of freedom. Forcing someone to engage in an activity that violates their conscience is tyranny

No, you want to engage in business and interact with the public, therefore you have to be open to everyone.

So forcing someone to provide someone else their labor is not tyranny?
Forcing someone to give up their property in trade to another person is not tyranny?
Forcing someone to provide service to someone else is not tyranny?

Well, we have a very different view on tyranny, mister anarchist.

Like I said, you don't know what tyranny is. If you want to have an exclusive club, go do it on private property.
 
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Yes, in your mind. If you're a caterer you're not being asked to "take part in," "approve of" or "condone" a gay marriage. You're being asked to cater food which, if it is a service you offer to other customers, then you should be able to offer them.

Really? So catering an event is not taking part in it? Exactly how does that makes sense?
 
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So if I said "A Nazi is a bad person," you'd be forced to disagree? Before you immediately smash the "reply" button, think on why I asked that. It will require you go back a couple posts.
What does that have to do with commerce?
 
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Like I said, you don't know what tyranny is. If you want to have an exclusive club, go do it on private property.


I take it you don't realize the property is private property.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

You are confused on purposely obtuse or perhaps simply lack the capacity to grasp this issue.
People are not forced to engage in commerce. Those who do through an establishment open to the public are expected to live up to the obligation of serving the public. That is what they take on they they open a business to the public. If they want to remain ignorant bigots they can do that too by opening their business only to certain clientele. Behavior in civilized society includes living up to obligations one takes on. Why is this so very difficult for yo and many others here to grasp?
Oh the irony. I'm not aware of any business that serves the entire public. But if government forces a business to do business with a customer he does not want to do business, it's tyranny, not liberty
 
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No, you want to engage in business and interact with the public, therefore you have to be open to everyone.



Like I said, you don't know what tyranny is. If you want to have an exclusive club, go do it on private property.
That's tyranny
 
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Oh the irony.
Yes, the irony of someone like you who clearly lacks the knowledge and understanding the issue so vehemently defends bigotry.

I'm not aware of any business that serves the entire public.
You are not aware of many other things also. No one said the entire public, but once an establishment is open to the public that means ANY segment of it.

But if government forces a business to do business with a customer he does not want to do business, it's tyranny, not liberty
Seems you needle is stuck in the same ignorant groove. I assure you that by repeating ad nauseam the same ignorance it will neither become fact or relevant.
 
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I take it you don't realize the property is private property.
That's tyranny

No, it is not. If you want to operate in a town and interact with the public, you also agree to obey by the town's rules. Therefore, you cannot discriminate against people.
 
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Are you saying that the Muslim Deli should be able to make every known sandwich on earth?

We can do this all day long.

And where did you get the idea that it was a Muslim deli? Was it all the cakes?
 
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No, it is not. If you want to operate in a town and interact with the public, you also agree to obey by the town's rules. Therefore, you cannot discriminate against people.

Again, the property is private. You can argue it's not all day, but the fact will remain that what we are talking about is private property.
 
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And where did you get the idea that it was a Muslim deli? Was it all the cakes?

You mean the trucks?
 
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Yes, the irony of someone like you who clearly lacks the knowledge and understanding the issue so vehemently defends bigotry.
Oh the irony
You are not aware of many other things also. No one said the entire public, but once an establishment is open to the public that means ANY segment of it.
The customer base should be determined by the merchant. Anything forced by the government is nothing short of tyranny

Seems you needle is stuck in the same ignorant groove. I assure you that by repeating ad nauseam the same ignorance it will neither become fact or relevant.
Those who support such tyranny will either not recognize it as such, or not admit it
 
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No, it is not. If you want to operate in a town and interact with the public, you also agree to obey by the town's rules. Therefore, you cannot discriminate against people.
You only "agree" because you are forced to agree. We've seen that in countries like, oh say, North Korea
 
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Now a baker who refused to make an anti gay cake is getting death threats. Who wants to donate to them for practicing their freedom of conscience?

Feuerstein encouraged viewers to call the bakery and and help “expose the hypocrisy” they’re supposedly engaging in. Well, in a parallel of what happened to Memories Pizza in Indiana, Cut the Cake ended up receiving quite a lot of angry messages, including death threats.

Cut the Cake Getting Threats over Refusal to Make Anti-Gay Cake | Mediaite
 
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The customer base should be determined by the merchant.
They are free to do that when they establish or open the business. That you are still unable to grasp that is just astounding.
 
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They are free to do that when they establish or open the business. That you are still unable to grasp that is just astounding.
There seems to be a disconnect in that statement, as evidence by the topic here, a pizza parlor stating it would choose to decline certain business
 
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She's already got $5000. Go for it

Amen. Should be a lot of fun seeing the twists and turns people take in the defense of one and the attack of the other.
 
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Amen. Should be a lot of fun seeing the twists and turns people take in the defense of one and the attack of the other.
It is interesting that in 2 days the Christian pizza shop owner got Well over $800,000 at a site set up by someone else whereas this florist raised $5000 at a site set up by herself? It seems that conservatives are ready to put their money where their mouths are
 
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You mean the trucks?

You mean the signs that say "Bakery"?

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Or all the cakes in the one shop?

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Or the book of cakes that he goes through with the other shop?

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Yeah, I think you need your eyes checked.

It is amazing how willfully ignorant you can be in order to excuse non-Christians of doing something you supposedly abhor. :roll:
 
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