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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

They're not being compelled to participate in anything.

They aren't? You mean that by refusing to participate in a gay wedding, they won't face possible legal action being taken against them, nor will they face threats of violence and financial boycotts from those ever-so-tolerant liberals and gay activists?

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The pizza place hasn't been sued, hasn't been fined, hasn't been boycotted, hasn't been threatened or picketed or anything that would actually force them to close. They're just milking this controversy for more attention and trying to play the victim. And apparently it's working. The article said that people giving these jerks money.
 
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OK, there are more than a few Christians that weep and wail and gnash their teeth at the thought of SSM or gay rights, or having to...GASP!!!!.... serve at their weddings. There is a large audience for anti-homosexual Bryan Fisher who has said we ought to treat homosexuality like drug addiction - forced treatment and if that doesn't work incarceration or more forced treatment. Conservative political candidates routinely kiss his ring and appeal to that audience by appearing in friendly chats on his show. Etc.

And if you think there aren't a large number assigning their hatred to ALL gays, you've not been paying attention.

Etc.
Do you believe it is possible to disagree with a lifestyle choice, believe that gay marriage is wrong, yet still manage to love care and hope for the other persons happiness...even if their beliefs do not agree with yours?
 
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Man, you mob mentality people just have to stick with hypotheticals because anything relating to actual events or facts just goes right over your addled little heads.

Dodge noted.
 
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We have all been to catered events. The food is not just dropped off. In a catered event the staff of the restaurant stays and serves the food and that is what these people said they would not want to be a part of.

If, as you say, somebody came in and ordered 50 pizzas, she would make them, just as she said.

If the customer said "I'd like to order 50 pizzas for my gay wedding?"
 
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$1 million dollars sends a message there are many who respect a people have a right to their faith against those who would destroy them for it.

History has recorded this type of attack over and over again. It's good to see there are many who recognize it for what it is and are doing something about it.


Many? Probably about 20K or so. Not much in a country of 300 million or so. But good for them. They played this perfectly and are laughing all the way to the bank.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

The law itself discriminate against gays. As per the rest of your post: tl/dr.


Insulting is a sign of desperation and weakness.

The "screaming" began when the left completely mis-interpreted an already stupid law, and incited an internet frenzy. For once accept responsibility for the bigoted and hateful response against these innocent people.

Condoning with silence the death threats received only reveals the innate dishonesty that created the concept of "tortured language" to fool the nation. This shows no signs of that abject dishonesty fading any time soon
 
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That's false... I've never said any such thing.
I am not sure, are you lying now or do not know what you said before. Your words: "If I owned a restaurant, I sure as hell wouldn't cater to them..."
 
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Yes, that's the argument. Not that I find it of any merit, but that is indeed the argument your side presents.
You mean you have no valid rebuttal.
 
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You mean you have no valid rebuttal.

You mean besides that is not how it works? No, I suppose I don't.
 
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I'm talking about bigoted christians in general. They do have much more in common with the taliban who hatez the gheys.

As far as the people who protested - that's what the right wingers who hate PA laws *say* should happen, let the free market decide when people discriminate.

The few idiots who made threats should be dealt with and prosecuted if they broke the law with their tweets.

There are always a few assholes in every group, by far and wide the people protesting the bigotry and calling for boycotts were lawfully and reasonably doing just what we are told is the rightful reaction to people who discriminate on the basis of race, sex, creed, ethnicity, etc...absent PA laws.

Embrace the free market, Blemmy. It werks.
And I was talking about the bigoted leftists in general. They bear greater resemblance to the Taliban who seek punish and harm people with whom they disagree, just like leftists.. And for the record, threats and interference with business such as placing phony orders and lies on Yelp are not the free market. Don't like the business owner, don't buy a pizza, but when interfering with the business is more bigoted than what the owner said. Just like the name calling in your post which you probably think is cute and clever
 
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Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

No, that is civilized society, absent of ignorance and bigotry.
There's nothing civilized about forcing people to act contrary to their conscience
 
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There's nothing civilized about forcing people to act contrary to their conscience

It's pretty amazing that has to be pointed out.
 
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It's pretty amazing that has to be pointed out.
Some people are too indoctrinated to see it
 
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That's false... I've never said any such thing.
My sincere apologies, I made a mistake, I misunderstood one of your earlier posts. So sorry about that.
 
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And I was talking about the bigoted leftists in general. They bear greater resemblance to the Taliban who seek punish and harm people with whom they disagree, just like leftists.. And for the record, threats and interference with business such as placing phony orders and lies on Yelp are not the free market. Don't like the business owner, don't buy a pizza, but when interfering with the business is more bigoted than what the owner said. Just like the name calling in your post which you probably think is cute and clever


neither is a condition where people are prohibited from engaging in commerce they would like to.
 
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There's nothing civilized about forcing people to act contrary to their conscience
I remind you that no one is forcing anyone. In a civilized society, people are expected to live up to the obligations they take on while drawing benefits from said civilized society. Perhaps you are not familiar with the many aspects of what makes up a civilized society and thus are in favor of the chaos that bigotry and ignorance would bring to society.
 
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They aren't? You mean that by refusing to participate in a gay wedding, they won't face possible legal action being taken against them,

There are plenty of business regulations that if I don't follow I'll lose my business license. It's life. Also, in the extreme if a KKK client wanted to hire me, I could not legally turn him away on the basis of him being KKK. Against, it's life.

nor will they face threats of violence

Threats of violence or harassment are illegal. Anybody caught doing those things can be prosecuted.

and financial boycotts

Boycotts are time-honored, American forms of protest. If your pr is so bad that you're starting boycotts against your company, perhaps you should get better pr.

from those ever-so-tolerant liberals and gay activists?
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

neither is a condition where people are prohibited from engaging in commerce they would like to.

Actually, if your patronage is turned down, that is indeed the free market
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

I remind you that no one is forcing anyone. In a civilized society, people are expected to live up to the obligations they take on while drawing benefits from said civilized society. Perhaps you are not familiar with the many aspects of what makes up a civilized society and thus are in favor of the chaos that bigotry and ignorance would bring to society.
Again, a civilized society does not force people to act against their consciences. And yes, people are forced to engage in commerce to which they object or be forced out of the marketplace. Frankly, that's bigotry sanctioned by the government, no different than the Jim Crow Laws
 
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Again, a civilized society does not force people to act against their consciences.

Bull ****, I have to deal with people of extreme faith all the time. Ayn Radian libertarians are the worst with the Jesus freaks coming in as a close second.
 
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Actually, if your patronage is turned down, that is indeed the free market

Interesting. Taking the intent of that particular message to its logical conclusion, what the free market is signaling to lgbt's is "We don't like your kind 'round here."
 
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Again, a civilized society does not force people to act against their consciences. And yes, people are forced to engage in commerce to which they object or be forced out of the marketplace. Frankly, that's bigotry sanctioned by the government, no different than the Jim Crow Laws

Sometimes, a person's conscience is no better than dog****, as in the case of people who so terribly want to discriminate against the demographic of their ire.
 
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