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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

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Paperview said:
Without a doubt, the bigoted Christians have much more in common with the Taliban Muslims.
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Let's see. The Christians in this case threatened no one. They merely said they would decline to provide pizzas to a certain type of event. On the other hand, the liberals harassed the pizza shop owners, forced them to shut down their business at least temporarily, made up lies about them and threatened them with violence to their persons and property. Now tell us again who has more in common with the Taliban?
 
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Montecresto said:
Why are you splitting hairs with this. She said she wouldn't bake a pizza for gay people. What's the difference if its in house, or her catering service, hmm?
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She said she wouldn't provide pizzas for a homosexual wedding. There is no need to lie about what she said
 
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Montecresto said:
I don't understand what your talking about!
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Really?

Someone speaks of their faith and they are attacked, their personal safety is put in doubt, and their business is ruined. That is called persecution and destruction, and it illustrates how the followers of the agenda plan to operate.

It also illustrates how those pushing the agenda will claim "bigots are being rescued by bigots" rather than understand that people are reaching out to those who have been targeted purely because of their religion.
 
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Blemonds said:
She said she wouldn't provide pizzas for a homosexual wedding. There is no need to lie about what she said
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Who's lying. And that's not bigoted discrimination?
 
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Blemonds said:
Let's see. The Christians in this case threatened no one. ...
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I'm talking about bigoted christians in general. They do have much more in common with the taliban who hatez the gheys.

As far as the people who protested - that's what the right wingers who hate PA laws *say* should happen, let the free market decide when people discriminate.

The few idiots who made threats should be dealt with and prosecuted if they broke the law with their tweets.

There are always a few assholes in every group, by far and wide the people protesting the bigotry and calling for boycotts were lawfully and reasonably doing just what we are told is the rightful reaction to people who discriminate on the basis of race, sex, creed, ethnicity, etc...absent PA laws.

Embrace the free market, Blemmy. It werks.
 
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ocean515 said:
Really?

Someone speaks of their faith and they are attacked, their personal safety is put in doubt, and their business is ruined. That is called persecution and destruction, and it illustrates how the followers of the agenda plan to operate.

It also illustrates how those pushing the agenda will claim "bigots are being rescued by bigots" rather than understand that people are reaching out to those who have been targeted purely because of their religion.
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Oh, those people suck. But they don't represent the majority view of Americans opposed to tolerance of Christians discrimination. And since when is advocating equal rights pushing an agenda. You may not like it but gay people are human, with all the same needs and wants as you, their sexual orientation is none of your god damn business, nor hers, bake the ****ing pizzas, or take your million dollar dirty money and go retire.
 
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Paperview said:
Both hatez the gheys.

"Own it" -- in your words.
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The history of mankind is full of examples of groups who seek to destroy those who don't bow down to their demands. It's quite revealing to see modern day members of groups who share these tactics expose this connection through their persecution of people who simply expressed their resistance to participating in something that goes against their religious views.

Own that.
 
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Paperview said:
The true winners in all this: The gays and lesbians in Indiana.

Because of the viscous Indiana law bigots passed last week -- and the abhorrence with which people reacted to it nationwide

now --

for the first time in Indiana history: codified into law now are protections based on sexual orientation!

Pizza pop and kid hit the RW cult lottery and won buckos, but their cause is lost.

Indiana gay and lesbian citizens won by a far wider margin and are the happy recipients of a much richer moral battle.
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"viscous" :lamo

If that word is anything like "vicious" it shows just how pathetic gays and lesbians in Indiana are. Their response similarly demonstrates the point as to how pathetic they are.
 
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ocean515 said:
The history of mankind is full of examples of groups who seek to destroy those who don't bow down to their demands. It's quite revealing to see modern day members of groups who share these tactics expose this connection through their persecution of people who simply expressed their resistance to participating in something that goes against their religious views.

Own that.
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What if there were a radical religious group that said their beliefs required them to ritually sacrifice christian children on a nightly basis. Would you be so adamant to defend their views and so forth? Where do you draw the line ?
 
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Paperview said:
The true winners in all this: The gays and lesbians in Indiana.

Because of the viscous Indiana law bigots passed last week -- and the abhorrence with which people reacted to it nationwide

now --

for the first time in Indiana history: codified into law now are protections based on sexual orientation!

Pizza pop and kid hit the RW cult lottery and won buckos, but their cause is lost.

Indiana gay and lesbian citizens won by a far wider margin and are the happy recipients of a much richer moral battle.
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So the owners were scam artist huh?

The American people pulled out their checkbooks and spoke loud and clear about who the victims of intolerance and bigotry were, so save the speech for your next Jon Lovitz impersonation.

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SlevinKelevra said:
What if there were a radical religious group that said their beliefs required them to ritually sacrifice christian children on a nightly basis. Would you be so adamant to defend their views and so forth? Where do you draw the line ?
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What if it rained Hershey Kisses and lollipops grew on trees?

The American people pulled out their checkbooks and spoke loud and clear about who the victims of intolerance and bigotry were... Let me give you a hint: I hear they also make a great calzone.
 
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JoeTrumps said:
so your argument against it should be simple. what is it exactly? this is a debate forum, not an "I'm so smart I don't have to debate" forum....genius
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I do not argue against stupidity, it is futile. I only pointed it out. Clearly it evades your grasp.
 
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VanceMack said:
Many Christians...MOST Christians treat homosexuals with love. We care, we hope for their happiness, and we love them.
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Yet enough of so called Christians have managed to get lawmakers to pass laws that would allow them, the so called Christians, to deny service to gays. Tough love eh?

We don't change our personal beliefs with regard to the act of homosexuality or gay marriage
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Has anyone asked you to?

We simply don't condone.
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Have you been asked to officiate a gay wedding, be the best man, or hold a candle at the nuptials? So what is it exactly that you do not want to do?

and that makes a whole lot of bitter angry hate filled people gay lose their sad ****ing little minds.
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And here you are doing the very thing you accuse gays of doing. Hypocrisy at its finest.
 
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Grim17 said:
What if it rained Hershey Kisses and lollipops grew on trees?

The American people pulled out their checkbooks and spoke loud and clear about who the victims of intolerance and bigotry were... Let me give you a hint: I hear they also make a great calzone.
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A comparatively few Americans pulled out their money. Supporters of discrimination at their finest.
 
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sangha said:
Surprised?

It was written by the poster who defended Limbaugh by confusing Plato with Socrates :lamo
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Moreover the genius defends that stupidity by calling Plato a secretary.
 
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Grim17 said:
So the owners were scam artist huh?

The American people pulled out their checkbooks and spoke loud and clear about who the victims of intolerance and bigotry were, so save the speech for your next Jon Lovitz impersonation.
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Didn't say they were scam artists. What I did say was this:

The true winners in all this: The gays and lesbians in Indiana.

Because of the viscous Indiana law bigots passed last week -- and the abhorrence with which people reacted to it nationwide

now --

for the first time in Indiana history: codified into law now are protections based on sexual orientation!


Indiana gay and lesbian citizens won by a far wider margin and are the happy recipients of a much richer moral battle.

Kin I get a Hally-lou-ya!
 
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Henrin said:
So what? This a law that forces people to serve others.
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BS. No law has ever forced anyone to serve anyone else. People take it on themselves to serve others when they open a business that is open to the public. It they want to exercise bigotry they are free to do so and there are ways to do it, just not in a business open to the public.
 
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Blemonds said:
Forcing people to act against their consciences, however, is
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No one is forcing anyone to do anything, just expecting people to live to the obligations they freely take on.
 
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Montecresto said:
Oh, those people suck. But they don't represent the majority view of Americans opposed to tolerance of Christians discrimination. And since when is advocating equal rights pushing an agenda. You may not like it but gay people are human, with all the same needs and wants as you, their sexual orientation is none of your god damn business, nor hers, bake the ****ing pizzas, or take your million dollar dirty money and go retire.
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Lost to those pushing this agenda of persecution and destruction of anyone who doesn't bow down is the fact the owners stated on video they did not discriminate against anyone in the course of doing business. What they did say is their religious beliefs would preclude them from participating in an event that goes against their faith.

Why not demand a Jew cater an event during Passover? How about demanding a Jewish Bakery cater a SSM last night?

There was no bigotry in the statements of the owners. They didn't pass judgment on gays, in fact they said the exact opposite. But that is lost on the pushers of the agenda.

Even your statement about me not liking the fact gays are human points to the BS tripe that pervades the agenda pushers. Where in anything I've ever written have I even inferred gays are not human. But that doesn't stop the storm troops from claiming it.

Pathetic.
 
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SlevinKelevra said:
What if there were a radical religious group that said their beliefs required them to ritually sacrifice christian children on a nightly basis. Would you be so adamant to defend their views and so forth? Where do you draw the line ?
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What a lame and pathetic analogy. They would and should be put in jail.

What if a gay couple want's to sacrifice Christian children at the stake as part of their wedding vows? Can a business refuse to participate, or would that be discrimination?

There is absolutely no equivalence to your hypothetical, but it does speak volumes about the mind set and viewpoint of those who persecute and seek to destroy anyone for their religious beliefs.
 
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prometeus said:
No, that is civilized society, absent of ignorance and bigotry.
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No, it's still bigotry. Your kind of thinking -- that you can expunge bigotry through bigotry -- has always escalated quickly throughout history.
 
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SlevinKelevra said:
What if there were a radical religious group that said their beliefs required them to ritually sacrifice christian children on a nightly basis. Would you be so adamant to defend their views and so forth? Where do you draw the line ?
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So, in your world, not baking a cake for a gay wedding is equivalent to murder?

And what should be done to the owners of these bakeries?

 
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