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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

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Donations are now closed at a total of $842,387. This gave us a chance to compare conservatism in action as opposed to liberalism in action

Americans don't donate money to bigots, they donate it to people who have been wrongly abused and victimized.
 
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Also doubtful that the "donations" show what the american public thinks.

Sure, but I don't see any LBGT causes getting that kind of money in such a short time period either.
 
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Sure, but I don't see any LBGT causes getting that kind of money in such a short time period either.

Again, what does that have to do with the perception of the american public?
 
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Again, what does that have to do with the perception of the american public?

Not a thing.
 
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Not a thing.

Then why respond with it in regards to this:
Also doubtful that the "donations" show what the american public thinks.
 
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Is discrimination based on another's sexuality ok?

Hey, if god says yes, who are you to complain. ;)
 
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Americans don't donate money to bigots, they donate it to people who have been wrongly abused and victimized.

I don't think the money was donated to LGBT in Indiana.
 
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There is a fundamental difference between a organization advocating pedophilia and 2 homosexual individuals.

You are correct, but what does that have to do with this topic?

I was showing that refusing to cater a NAMBLA party is a moral objection to pedophilia, not discriminatory action against homosexuals....the same way the Pizzeria not wanting to cater a gay wedding is a religious objection to same-sex marriage, not discriminatory action against homosexuals... Neither of those discriminates against gay people.
 
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You are correct, but what does that have to do with this topic?

I was showing that refusing to cater a NAMBLA party is a moral objection to pedophilia, not discriminatory action against homosexuals....the same way the Pizzeria not wanting to cater a gay wedding is a religious objection to same-sex marriage, not discriminatory action against homosexuals... Neither of those discriminates against gay people.

It has quite a lot to do with this topic, I would say NAMBLA shouldn't be denied either unless it's a party to molest children.. If you object to gay marriage, good for you (Though you really should get out of the past..) but it won't harm you to cater and give pizza to a gay couple's wedding, if you want to be a business that does that, well, luckily the public won't deal with it.
 
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That's correct... Now connect the dots... I know you can do it.

But you said the money was donated to the victims of discrimination?:shrug:
 
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But you said the money was donated to the victims of discrimination?:shrug:

Shh, they're victims of people that are pointing out that they are bigots, which makes those people bigots. Wat.
 
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Is discrimination based on another's sexuality ok?

as an immutable attribute... I don't believe it is.


though with the ability to change sex and gender by elective surgery, even that can get a lil muddy, depending on circumstance.
 
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as an immutable attribute... I don't believe it is.


though with the ability to change sex and gender by elective surgery, even that can get a lil muddy, depending on circumstance.

Wait, what does this:
though with the ability to change sex and gender by elective surgery, even that can get a lil muddy, depending on circumstance.
have to do with this thread?
 
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Shh, they're victims of people that are pointing out that they are bigots, which makes those people bigots. Wat.

the pizza parlor folks were in fact victims in this whole thing... they did absolutely nothing illegal, yet they were run out of business by those whom levied death threats, arson threats, made false orders by phone, and basically bullied them all over hell and back...... all with the open support of people who pretend to oppose intolerance, bullying, and bigotry.
 
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If you object to gay marriage, good for you (Though you really should get out of the past..) but it won't harm you to cater and give pizza to a gay couple's wedding....

That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but I disagree. I would never, never cater a pro-abortion event or support it in any way. Principles are just words unless you live by them. And if you have to die by them, well, there's that too.
 
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That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but I disagree. I would never, never cater a pro-abortion event or support it in any way. Principles are just words unless you live by them. And if you have to die by them, well, there's that too.

that sort of discrimination is perfectly legal....for now.
 
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Discriminating against someone for something that is natural is not forcing tyranny on you.
Sorry, but that comment doesn't seem to apply. Discrimination is part of freedom. Forcing someone to engage in an activity that violates their conscience is tyranny
 
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Yes, and what kind of precadent are we going to be setting again with these so called "religious freedom" laws?

The precedent for religious freedom was set in the Constitution. It is in fact the first freedom the founders thought to guarantee for us
 
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Sorry, but that comment doesn't seem to apply. Discrimination is part of freedom. Forcing someone to engage in an activity that violates their conscience is tyranny

Can't very well have freedom without it really.
 
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What I'm getting at is that we can't allow businesses to have the option to discriminate at all.
That's tyranny indeed
 
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Is discrimination based on another's sexuality ok?
Whether it's OK or not is not the issue. Thge issue is whether people should have the freedom to discriminate or not
 
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Also doubtful that the "donations" show what the american public thinks.
The actions against the pizza shop owners show us what the liberal public thinks
 
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the pizza parlor folks were in fact victims in this whole thing... they did absolutely nothing illegal, yet they were run out of business by those whom levied death threats, arson threats, made false orders by phone, and basically bullied them all over hell and back...... all with the open support of people who pretend to oppose intolerance, bullying, and bigotry.

And then they were accused of manipulating the whole thing just to get the donations
 
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