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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

The pizza there sucked. In many years of business, they only got two, countem two Yelp reviews.

I doubt anyone would ever buy their pizza for a wedding (who has pizza for a wedding anyhow?)

They don't cater, and they've never served weddings.

Changing the subject is a clear sign of a weak or failed position of argument.
 
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That sounds like a good description of the bigoted christians.

Unfortunately, to you anyone that doesnt buy into gay marriage is 'bigoted Christian'. Regardless of their love for you personally.
 
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Indentured servants or slavery...neither is good.


"Treatment of indentured servants differed greatly from one master to another. In some areas, slaves were treated more humanely because they were regarded as lifetime investments, while the servant would be gone in a few years. The length of servitude could legally be lengthened in cases of bad behavior, especially for those workers who ran away or became pregnant.

~~Snip~~

One variant of this labor system was the use of "enforced servitude." Vagrants, war prisoners, and minor criminals were shipped to America by English authorities, then sold into bondage.

~~Snip~~

The servants of this era were often uneducated and could be cheated by unscrupulous masters, who could forge new contracts with terms more favorable to themselves."

Indentured Servitude

There's a lot of history where indentured servants were treated less than slaves. Slaves were cash cows over the span of their lives. "SUPPOSEDLY" indentured servants were only for 5 to 7 years. Consequently, slaves were more valuable over the long haul.

And a lot of people exploited Indentured Servants by changing their agreements and the servants could never pay off their debts - so essentially they were slaves.

It was at least volentary with hopes of a better life elsewhere.
 
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Sometimes, yes, tyranny of the majority, mob rule; these things do exist. Do you deny that?

IOW, people are free to agree to anything they want


as long as the libertarian authoritarians approve.
 
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IOW, people are free to agree to anything they want


as long as the libertarian authoritarians approve.

there's no such thing as a libertarian authoritarian.... sorry.
 
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What is it now, over half a million?

The moment this story broke, as I expected, the left didn't hesitate to label the owners of that restaurant bigots and haters. At least this time there's no need for me to waste my time disagreeing with them, because folks from all over the country took care of that for me.

All those donation that keep pouring in make a hell of a lot better argument than I, or anyone else ever could. Just as every one of you know, the American people don't open their checkbooks and pour their hearts out to those who are intolerant, hateful or mistreat others... They're making it quite clear who the victims of hatred and intolerance are, as well as the ones who are inflicting it.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

What is it now, over half a million?

The moment this story broke, as I expected, the left didn't hesitate to label the owners of that restaurant bigots and haters. At least this time there's no need for me to waste my time disagreeing with them, because folks from all over the country took care of that for me.

All those donation that keep pouring in make a hell of a lot better argument than I, or anyone else ever could. Just as every one of you know, the American people don't open their checkbooks and pour their hearts out to those who are intolerant, hateful or mistreat others... They're making it quite clear who are the victims of hatred and intolerance, and who are the ones inflicting it.

Well, if you're denying service to someone based on their sexuality, you are a bigot.
 
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Well, if you're denying service to someone based on their sexuality, you are a bigot.

Do you hear that?

Cha-Ching!

I'm sure the fund for religious freedom appreciates your contribution.

p.s. they did no such thing.
 
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Do you hear that?

Cha-Ching!

I'm sure the fund for religious freedom appreciates your contribution.

Really? You are literally a bigot if you deny service to someone based on their sexuality.
 
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Really? You are literally a bigot if you deny service to someone based on their sexuality.

I totally agree... But that isn't what that restaurant did.
 
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I totally agree... But that isn't what that restaurant did.

It's not? This is new to me. Refusing to cater pizza at gay weddings isn't bigoted/intolerant? Hm, interesting.
 
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What is it now, over half a million?

The moment this story broke, as I expected, the left didn't hesitate to label the owners of that restaurant bigots and haters. At least this time there's no need for me to waste my time disagreeing with them, because folks from all over the country took care of that for me.

All those donation that keep pouring in make a hell of a lot better argument than I, or anyone else ever could. Just as every one of you know, the American people don't open their checkbooks and pour their hearts out to those who are intolerant, hateful or mistreat others... They're making it quite clear who the victims of hatred and intolerance are, as well as the ones who are inflicting it.

Greetings, Grim17. :2wave:

Great post! Haven't talked with you in a while. Hope all is well with you and yours.

I think I read earlier that they had been given over $877,000 dollars before those handling the collections stopped accepting donations. Thousands of people from all over the country took part. :thumbs:
 
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Greetings, Grim17. :2wave:

Great post! Haven't talked with you in a while. Hope all is well with you and yours.

I think I read earlier that they had been given over $877,000 dollars before those handling the collections stopped accepting donations. Thousands of people from all over the country took part. :thumbs:

Update: I checked back through lots of posts, and what was collected was $842,327.
 
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Well, if you're denying service to someone based on their sexuality, you are a bigot.
Bigot:
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

:: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)


denying service based on sexuality might indeed be bigotry ( not inherently, but it probably is, nonetheless)... throwing the word "bigot" around.

unfortunately, bigots calling bigots bigots doesn't leave a lot of room for much moral or ethical high ground. <shrug>
 
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Really? You are literally a bigot if you deny service to someone based on their sexuality.

Do you think your targets even care about being called a bigot?
 
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It's not? This is new to me. Refusing to cater pizza at gay weddings isn't bigoted/intolerant? Hm, interesting.

they didn't deny service to anyone on any basis....

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Do you think your targets even care about being called a bigot?

Maybe, maybe not, doesn't change the fact they are bigots.
 
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Maybe, maybe not, doesn't change the fact they are bigots.

If they don't care about your attack there is really no point in making it.
 
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Owner said he wouldn't serve pizza at a gay wedding reception.

With the implication being he WOULD serve pizza at a non gay wedding reception.


I got that right? Do you require a cliffs notes to keep up? No shame in that, lots of people do, you know...
He also said he would serve homosexuals who came in to order a pizza. Was that page missing from your Cliff's Notes?
 
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Bigot:
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

:: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)


denying service based on sexuality might indeed be bigotry ( not inherently, but it probably is, nonetheless)... throwing the word "bigot" around.

unfortunately, bigots calling bigots bigots doesn't leave a lot of room for much moral or ethical high ground. <shrug>
Wait, I'm a bigot? I'm not intolerant towards others, I'm open to all opinions and people, doesn't mean I can't PERSONALLY dislike something, I wouldn't go as far as to deny a fundamentalist christian a pizza for their wedding. Call me a bigot if you want.
 
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If they don't care about your attack there is really no point in making it.

Why not? FREE SPEECH :cool:
 
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Wait, I'm a bigot? I'm not intolerant towards others, I'm open to all opinions and people, doesn't mean I can't PERSONALLY dislike something, I wouldn't go as far as to deny a fundamentalist christian a pizza for their wedding. Call me a bigot if you want.

You could also just make your own pizza or get it from somewhere else. No one is denying you pizza, but denying you the pizza they made.
 
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You seem not to understand that anarchism has a social aspect and is about abolishing all oppressive social structures such as racism, homophobia, and the like. You should do yourself a favor and read up on anarchism so you can actually know what you are talking about.



Yes, however public accommodation is not it.
Forcing people to act against their consciences, however, is
 
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99.9% of adult human beings are bigots.... of one stripe or another.

You know what form of bigotry I'm referring to, yes, all humans are bigots to a degree, heck, I dislike religious fundamentalists, doesn't mean I'd deny to serve them something for their wedding.
 
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