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Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed
I've seen that argued by the social conservatives as recently as last night, but I consider it the same way I do the Orwellian redefinition of the word 'bigot.' Any law in some ways "discriminates" against someone. Drug laws discriminate against drug users and drug sellers! Etc.
So, no, I don't see a requirement that a business open to the public serves the public as discrimination. They're asked to comply with laws - they have hundreds to comply with, all of them "discriminatory" in some way.
I do get that there are tough cases, but that's true of most laws. They all have downsides, often significant downsides, so we weight the good and bad and make informed choices on them.
I guess I disagree. I'm not all that interested in whether someone, for example, approves of the "gay lifestyle." If they treat them fairly as human beings in the market, work place, employment, housing, etc. even if just because greed overwhelms their principles, fine with me. We really ARE all prejudiced/bigoted in some ways, so overcoming them in how we deal with people is a virtue all its own.
Business DNA or state government DNA or a combination of all. See one could even make an argument that by government forcing people to sell to "X" despite thier religious objections, you are discriminating against them.
I've seen that argued by the social conservatives as recently as last night, but I consider it the same way I do the Orwellian redefinition of the word 'bigot.' Any law in some ways "discriminates" against someone. Drug laws discriminate against drug users and drug sellers! Etc.
So, no, I don't see a requirement that a business open to the public serves the public as discrimination. They're asked to comply with laws - they have hundreds to comply with, all of them "discriminatory" in some way.
I do get that there are tough cases, but that's true of most laws. They all have downsides, often significant downsides, so we weight the good and bad and make informed choices on them.
I think, yelp, are more of a reflection of "who we are", than some dumb law that actually protects racists and bigots, despite themselves. I'd rather know the racist to avoid patronizing thier business than force them to sell to everyone and me not know.
I guess I disagree. I'm not all that interested in whether someone, for example, approves of the "gay lifestyle." If they treat them fairly as human beings in the market, work place, employment, housing, etc. even if just because greed overwhelms their principles, fine with me. We really ARE all prejudiced/bigoted in some ways, so overcoming them in how we deal with people is a virtue all its own.