Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed
Note: Had to reduce what is quoted due to exceeding character limit. I did try and respond to everything that you said though.
1) You are talking about harm to commerce......
Discrimination once did cause harm to commerce across the US. It no longer does. There are far too many businesses and people for that to happen anymore. Not to mention the change in society.
And zoning laws are not about protecting the environment
Yes it is. Or would you really want a coal power plant sitting right next to your house? How about a garbage dump that is privately ran? Or how about a steel factory? Bet you'd highly object to the harmful chemicals being spewed out right next to your house for health issues...and rightly so.
When it comes to the US you would be wrong where it concerns the federal government. When the Constitution was originally written the only power the Feds had was to basically be an arbiter between states when it came to interstate commerce. That changed when the Constitution started to be re-interpreted.
As far as the States goes, only so far as it concerns harm.
And I don't want to derail this into a discussion about MJ but allowing the sale of it does not inhibit commerce. It has the opposite effect.
That wasn't the point of what I said. The whole "no harm no foul" in regards to your stance on MJ had to do with your belief that the government should not be regulating it because it doesn't harm anyone. Is that stance only applicable to something that you are for?
Regulating consumers in such a way has never been considered a legitimate exercise of govt power in this country (nor in many others) which is why the constitution does not give the govt such a power.
Yet that is exactly what's happening by you wanting the government to enforce the affirmative action laws when it comes to forcing businesses to provide a service to someone that they do not want to.
I'm not sure that is true.
Which means that any business that could have been conducted as a result of that traveling (such as renting a hotel room) cannot be conducted. But hey, lets use another example. Same question only in place of CT input the businesses that threatened to pull out of Indiana. Or those businesses that pulled their ads from Rush Limbaugh show due to his perceived racism? I could use many many MANY more examples. It all ends the same.
My business is interstate, not intrastate, but my point is.......
Sorry, meant interstate in that one part.
As for your point. It doesn't apply to today's society anymore. There are far too many businesses and people in this country. You very easily could go/call the next autoshop on the next street corner which has a probability of helping you that outweighs them not helping you. It wouldn't even apply to a town that only has 200 people living in it. For the simple fact that your cell phone can call someone in the next town that is bigger and only, at most, a few hours away. For instance I once lived in a town that held 150 people. One autoshop, one restaurant, one gas station, one bar, one mom and pop grocery store. The next nearest towns was exactly the same distance away from it going in opposite directions. Those towns both had over 10-20 thousand people living in it. The drive to AND from those towns was 1 hour total (30 mins one way). The chances of you not finding someone that could help you were next to 0.
I personally believe that every business that is open to the public should be required to serve the entire public.
So....force servitude. No thanks. Some inconveniences are worth the Right to association. No matter what impact it may or may not have.