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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Thanks. You've proven my point.

well name one thing of value religion contributes in the 21st century

and i'm talking the bronze age book of fables known as the bible - what these small town yokels cling to - not pantheism, deism, jainism or hell, even nihilism might have more utility
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Ive never heard of pizza being served at wedding receptions and if someone ever invited me to a wedding in which I knew pizza would be served I probably would decline to go. :peace
 
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Remember, every time you point the finger at someone you have 3 more fingers pointing right back at you.

let me take another shot so i can interpret this...

nope, most americans in 2015 agree they are bigots. Take it up with 200 million others
 
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I didn't say it that is the definition of the word tolerance. so if you have a problem with the word tolerance then you need to take it up with people that write the dictionary not me.

Tolerance - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
willingness to accept feelings, habits, or beliefs that are different from your own

the fact that you have been misusing the word in order to try and claim some moral high ground in a discussion is not my problem.
the fact is if you are only tolerant of people that believe like you do then you are not tolerant at all.



ummm, lie much? didn't you post this? there's nothing about the "something" being only 1 thing. it's absolutely implied
from your comment below that all things must be tolerated to be "tolerant".
Then you don't know the meaning of the word tolerance. here I will post it for you.

the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with


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Maybe they really are that hateful and pathetic and they just stumbled onto a goldmine completely unwittingly.

A+B =/ A is usually a step too much for bigots to grasp, after all

Oh yeah. That's very possible. Maybe they mentioned weddings because heard about the florist issue in other states. But now that it's turned into a goldmine they're going to play it up with the we're closed, and we're afraid stuff. If someone is really afraid they lay low, they don't go on a national show and broadcast where they are and what they're doing. Hey we're afraid for our lives and BTW we're not working anymore so we're home all day. Come get us.

And keep that money coming in.
 
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There is a contradiction between reality and what they're claiming

and oh yeah, won't someone think of the poor homophobes ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

How is there a contradiction? They have literally been threatened with harm. In fact that person that tweeted that...was suspended from her job for doing so.

High school coach suspended after Tweet about pizzeria
 
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The regulation is valid when its meant to prevent harm. No other time is it valid.

Wrong. We have all sorts of regulations that are not meant to prevent harm to individuals but instead, to protect commerce. Take zoning regulations, for example.

The power to regulate the market in order to promote commerce has been considered a sovereign and legitimate power of govt for centuries.

Because it has the possibility of causing harm. Whether someone reacts or not is not relevant because there was no way to tell if someone is going to react or not before someone yells "fire". The odds and statistics however are that people WILL react and someone WILL get harmed.

And discrimination has the possibility of causing harm....to commerce. And that harms the nation and all of us.

The Federal government may only regulate interstate commerce. A business denying someone a service intrastate does not fall with in their purview and does not affect the entire nation as a whole.

Discrimination affects interstate commerce. I'm a distributor. I sell and deliver my product to customers in at least four different states. If one of my trucks breaks down in Podunk, PA and the local repair shop won't fix it because they have some BS "religious" objection to the driver, it most certainly does harm my business. And if I decide not to service certain areas because such discrimination is too common there, then not only is my business harmed, but all of the businesses in that area that can no longer purchase my product are also harmed.

This so-called "right" to discriminate is extremely disruptive to commerce. It should be banned.
 
Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

Ive never heard of pizza being served at wedding receptions and if someone ever invited me to a wedding in which I knew pizza would be served I probably would decline to go. :peace




depends on who's making the pizza.



I'd show up anyway, it's not about the pizza.
 
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ummm, lie much?

not at all different dictionaries have different definitions as in added words but the meanings are the same.
this came from google dictionary when I typed it in.

tol·er·ance


/ˈtäl(ə)rəns/


noun

noun: tolerance



1.


the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with


you are just trying to split hairs. there is no difference in the meanings. poor argument to try and make.
so there is no lie.

fact is you just don't like the fact that you are not the tolerant person you think you are.
 
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Don't forget to take a good look at the 9th Amendment.

However if you want to read it all strictly like so many that are against SSM then....Gays don't have a Right to Marry.....But of course we both know that going that route is BS huh?

You really don't read well at all, do you?

You really make it your business to assume whatever makes you feel better, don't you?

It is typical Christian judgement and hypocrisy is exactly what it is.

I personally don't agree with the same sex lifestyle, but it is not my place to judge, but God's.

I find it intriguing that some Christians think that their beliefs came from God's mouth to their ears.

I find it very hard to believe that Jesus Christ will hold a marginal Christian to a higher level than a marginal gay/lesbian who also did their best.

There are very few Christians who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ to the letter.

It sure doesn't keep some of those Christians from quickly passing judgement upon all other folks.

The government has no place in any marriage, no matter the type.

It is none of my business what anyone else is doing, even if I don't agree.

I don't judge at all, period.

Not my place.

You really need to try and keep words in perspective and work on separating your emotions from comprehension.
 
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If you make and sell pizzas, make the damn pizza regardless of who it is. If they want you to deliver to a dangerous neighborhood, then maybe you have a case. What happened to common sense? For some, a prostitute that won't do Asian men is a racist.

If I'm a tattoo artist, I'm not inking your swastika.

That's a good point. There's discrimination in every facet of our day to day lives. Why do Gays think they are immune?
 
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA

you actually believe that crap

well go donate another $50k if you're so sure

btw their "staff" is only 2 ppl, themselves. That's what a 'mom and pop' is

FYI, mom and pops are family owned small businesses and can have any number of employees. I believe the young lady who was interviesed was a daughter, although not all mom and pops consist strictly of family members. While you're at it, ask yourself, people with what ideology would contact a small business and threaten to kill them because they didn't want to send pizza to a gay wedding. Hint, probably not right wingers who for the most part don't care who eats pizza.
 
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Depends if the news crew showed up looking for a business, any business, to say "sure I won't cater to gays", of if they called the news station to come out and film them saying "I won't cater to gays".

Business rule #1: If a news crew shows up for anything more than a puff piece, show them the door.

Considering all the hubbub about Indiana's law...My bet is that the media was purposely out looking for a business that would admit to this.
 
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not at all different dictionaries have different definitions as in added words but the meanings are the same.
this came from google dictionary when I typed it in.

tol·er·ance


/ˈtäl(ə)rəns/


noun

noun: tolerance



1.


the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with


you are just trying to split hairs. there is no difference in the meanings. poor argument to try and make.
so there is no lie.

fact is you just don't like the fact that you are not the tolerant person you think you are.


Or perhaps, as a starting point, a rational person would define tolerance as acceptance of such, but so much as to only extend to actions that do not materially harm the rights of others. (eg murder , pedophilia materially harm and deny the rights of others)
 
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depends on who's making the pizza.



I'd show up anyway, it's not about the pizza.
Let me clarify: Id show up to the wedding but not for the reception. Having pizza for a wedding reception sounds really cheap and tacky.
 
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How is there a contradiction? They have literally been threatened with harm. In fact that person that tweeted that...was suspended from her job for doing so.

High school coach suspended after Tweet about pizzeria

You really don't think a gay kid in that town fears for his life every day? Some twitter threat from over 100 miles away scared these discriminators ****less. Once again, i have no sympathy for bigots
 
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Let me clarify: Id show up to the wedding but not for the reception. Having pizza for a wedding reception sounds really cheap and tacky.

sounds hipsterish. where's the PBR toast?
 
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Let me clarify: Id show up to the wedding but not for the reception. Having pizza for a wedding reception sounds really cheap and tacky.




I wouldn't even notice.


I was at a wedding once, where the reception was in the basement of a church in lousiana I think, they had meatballs in bbq sauce in a crock pot, and paper plates... Dude was a bronze star recipient and had a purple heart. Wouldn't have missed it for the world.
 
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Business rule #1: If a news crew shows up for anything more than a puff piece, show them the door.

I don't know. They say there's no such thing as bad publicity. And this is a small town, a small town local crew shows up? It's not like 60 minutes was knocking on their door.

But yeah I hear what you're saying. The pizzeria may have, or someone they know might have tipped the news off then the owners would be more open to the publicity then if a news crew just shows up at their business and starts asking uncomfortable questions.
 
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Nah i've been around bigots long enough to know, and the polls back this up - opposition to SSM is roughly identical to opposition to ALL gay rights including consensual sex

They are just lying about where'd they draw the line. They come from a position of hate period

Except of course that there is evidence that I fully support SSM. ;) My posting history. Or if you don't want to look through that PM Hicup. Me and him have had lots of discussions on SSM.

Also a poll does not indicate whether someone that espouses one thing is also for or against something else. It just shows what that person is for/against in that particular poll subject.
 
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FYI, mom and pops are family owned small businesses and can have any number of employees. I believe the young lady who was interviesed was a daughter, although not all mom and pops consist strictly of family members. While you're at it, ask yourself, people with what ideology would contact a small business and threaten to kill them because they didn't want to send pizza to a gay wedding. Hint, probably not right wingers who for the most part don't care who eats pizza.

The threat was to burn the store/trailer down. It's most likely in violation of all building codes and should've been condemned long ago anyway.

And yeah the pizza place will be open a few hours a few nights a week and they won't have employees. There is no possible other way it can stay open in a town of 2000
 
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Let me clarify: Id show up to the wedding but not for the reception. Having pizza for a wedding reception sounds really cheap and tacky.

Surely it is.

 
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Or perhaps, as a starting point, a rational person would define tolerance as acceptance of such, but so much as to only extend to actions that do not materially harm the rights of others. (eg murder , pedophilia materially harm and deny the rights of others)

that is re-writing the definition that is not how it works. please see the definition of tolerance. if you don't like it complain to the dictionary companies.
that is why I laugh at people that claim to be tolerant yet spout such hate and vile at people that do not believe the way that they do.

because they are not the tolerant people that they claim to be.
 
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I wouldn't even notice.


I was at a wedding once, where the reception was in the basement of a church in lousiana I think, they had meatballs in bbq sauce in a crock pot, and paper plates... Dude was a bronze star recipient and had a purple heart. Wouldn't have missed it for the world.
Ive been a sponsor at a few weddings in the 3rd world and their food and venue is on the level as that- but the point is its more on traditional foods- the spirit in which the wedding and therefore the marriage is aimed at. Food cooked by family members and friends is what a traditional wedding ought to be if you cant get catering. Boxed pizza on the other hand, to me symbolizes a quick, shotgun throwaway marriage.
 
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