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Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/02/u...eakingNews&contentID=31872239&pgtype=Homepage

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — Gov. Asa Hutchinson on Wednesday called on the state legislature to recall or amend a measure billed as a religious freedom measure to make it mirror a federal version passed in 1993.

Mr. Hutchinson, a Republican, said he understood how divided the state and the country was over same-sex marriage and religious freedom — his own son, Seth, had asked him to veto the bill, which critics say could allow individuals and businesses to discriminate against gay men and lesbians.
First I was going to sign it then I want it changed.
 
:doh Dumb. Politically understandable, given the insane people screaming right now, but dumb. If you bow down to idiots, you only encourage them.
 
:doh Dumb. Politically understandable, given the insane people screaming right now, but dumb. If you bow down to idiots, you only encourage them.

He probably wants it air tight.
 
There are some major differences between the Indiana law and the Fed law. Anyone who looks at the 2 objectively can see the big differences. But Hutchinson makes a great point about another big difference between how the issue was looked at in 1993 compared to today.

“This is a bill that in ordinary times would not be controversial,” Mr. Hutchinson said. “But these are not ordinary times.”
 
Good on his son and good on him. :shrug:
 
He is backing up so fast he ran into himself.

You are welcome to provide a source for that conjecture. :roll:
 
:doh Dumb. Politically understandable, given the insane people screaming right now, but dumb. If you bow down to idiots, you only encourage them.
Exactly, that is how this and other laws like this came about. Lawmakers bowing...
 
You are welcome to provide a source for that conjecture. :roll:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/u...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

The Arkansas bill now goes to the state’s Republican governor, Asa Hutchinson, who expressed reservations about an earlier version but more recently said he would sign the measure if it “reaches my desk in similar form as to what has been passed in 20 other states.” But the bill already faces a significant corporate backlash, including from Doug McMillon, the chief executive of Walmart, the state’s largest corporation, who said Tuesday afternoon that Mr. Hutchinson should veto it.


He should have clearly stated his position to the Legislature. Now he waffles.
Reason- Look to Indiana -
The Law is flawed from the outset.
For those that say leave this, that and whatever to the marketplace, well the marketplace has spoken.
 
Politicians are a little scared of their base. But they are even more scared of corporations.
 
:doh Dumb. Politically understandable, given the insane people screaming right now, but dumb. If you bow down to idiots, you only encourage them.

You guys are just upset because the American people stood up to the right-wing agenda and said "Not in our country". Sorry...but America will continue to reject bigotry and discrimination in 2015.
 
He did not realize the level of bigotry among the gay and their lobby. Now he knows.

Look to Indiana and see who were the major backers of the law.
Bigotry was the law that he refused to sign.
He should have clarified that.
Now he looks like, well I will leave that to his supporters.
 
He did not realize the level of bigotry among the gay and their lobby. Now he knows.

No...he didn't realize that in 2015 the American people do not want bigotry and discrimination in our country. Its a new world. It used to be politically expedient for GOP politicians to appease the right-wing base. In today's world, it is completely the opposite. Some politicians have realized this already...others are late to the game (like Pence). They are all learning though that the right-wing social agenda is no longer helpful to them in their political efforts.
 
The CEO of Walmart is gay? Or connected to their lobby?

I didn't know that.

You see, I did not say he was. But you chose to insinuate I had. I wonder why?
 
You see, I did not say he was. But you chose to insinuate I had. I wonder why?

I know you didn't. But I can see the point I was making went right over your head.

These governors are backing down because the Corps. are beating them up over these backwards, stupid laws. Of course all this backlash would have never happened in Indy and Arkansas if they had learned from what happened in Arizona last year. But they didn't learn, their ideology and hatred it got in the way, so now they are paying the price.
 
No...he didn't realize that in 2015 the American people do not want bigotry and discrimination in our country. Its a new world. It used to be politically expedient for GOP politicians to appease the right-wing base. In today's world, it is completely the opposite. Some politicians have realized this already...others are late to the game (like Pence). They are all learning though that the right-wing social agenda is no longer helpful to them in their political efforts.

Oh, but they obviously do want bigotry and suppression of religious rights to free expression. Thing is, that it is not the conservative right that is now suppressing people anymore. It is now the gay crowd that is acting anti constitutional with the courts supporting them like they did some time ago the conservatives. Quite interesting really, the way things have swung around.
 
I know you didn't. But I can see the point I was making went right over your head.

These governors are backing down because the Corps. are beating them up over these backwards, stupid laws. Of course all this backlash would have never happened in Indy and Arkansas if they had learned from what happened in Arizona last year. But they didn't learn, their ideology and hatred it got in the way, so now they are paying the price.

You sound full of hatred. But if you think that protecting the rights guaranteed by the Constitution amounts to "backward, stupid laws" I guess you have a point. On the other hand, it seems as bigoted as the people that suppressed the gays in the old days.
 
Oh, but they obviously do want bigotry and suppression of religious rights to free expression. Thing is, that it is not the conservative right that is now suppressing people anymore. It is now the gay crowd that is acting anti constitutional with the courts supporting them like they did some time ago the conservatives. Quite interesting really, the way things have swung around.

No they don't. No one is telling anyone what they can practice in their church or in their homes. People have the right to free religious expression and always will....there is nothing threatening that. What they don't have a right to do is to use that religion as a shield and proclaim that it allows them to discriminate.
 
You sound full of hatred. But if you think that protecting the rights guaranteed by the Constitution amounts to "backward, stupid laws" I guess you have a point. On the other hand, it seems as bigoted as the people that suppressed the gays in the old days.

It's the right-wing nut jobs that are the bigots. If the shoe fits, wear it!
 
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