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Question about Michael brown leads to beating

You want the attackers to have concealed guns?

No, their victim.

The attackers most likely already have access to a firearm, a ILLEGAL firearm but still a firearm.

Those attackers are criminals and criminals don't bother with conceal carry permits.
 
No. Because if a white guy shoots an unarmed black man...it is social injustice.

Oh thats right.

And if a Black guy shoots another black guy, its systemic racism.
 
No, their victim.

The attackers most likely already have access to a firearm, a ILLEGAL firearm but still a firearm.

How would it improve the situation if the attackers had guns, and the victim pulled out a gun?

Are white people simply quicker draws than blacks?
 
How would it improve the situation if the attackers had guns, and the victim pulled out a gun?

Are white people simply quicker draws than blacks?

Thats the beauty of Conceal carry laws.

The guns never have to be drawn. Criminals are cowards in a society where victims have the right and the means to defend themselves.
 
Yeah, you've got me figured out:roll:

I won't play the victim game.

You didn't answer my question. Was this a hate crime? Was it somehow justified for them to do this?
 
How would it improve the situation if the attackers had guns, and the victim pulled out a gun?

Are white people simply quicker draws than blacks?

It would have improved the situation that actually happened because the attackers didn't have guns. The victim would have walked away without as bad a beating. At any rate...one legal cc could have shot that sob and got rid of one more racist scumbag.
 
Oh thats right.

And if a Black guy shoots another black guy, its systemic racism.

Yea. Absolutely. It is the fault of republicans for black on black violence. Gun control would save them. Never mind what LBJ said.
 
Thats the beauty of Conceal carry laws.

The guns never have to be drawn. Criminals are cowards in a society where victims have the right and the means to defend themselves.

I might concede that if everyone had a gun, people would be too afraid to attack, but that's not really what you're suggesting. The next logical phase to your argument is open carry.
 
It would have improved the situation that actually happened because the attackers didn't have guns.

How do you know the attackers didn't have guns? Fenton assumed that they at least had access to them.
 
That is very frustrating to watch. The victim is just a punching bag for the guy. That doesn't require any fighting skill , just load up and throw a punch at a guy covering up. I want the victim to explode on the punk but I also know his two buddies would have joined in the fighting then.

But still, you got to fight back. Take a few more punches but at least having the satisfaction of making one good connection to that skinny ass punk.

Not one fellow passenger even yelling for them to stop is very telling. I wonder if the victim had been black would the fellow passengers do anything? Is this just another case of Kitty Genovese of NYC?

It's something that's been going on for a long, long time. Gangs of punk kids find someone they figure that they can pick on without retaliation and do so. It's more a matter of bullying than it is race but race often plays into it. You're also absolutely right in that fighting back is the only good recourse. Oddly enough, if you try to fight back people are more likely to jump in and help you too.
 
Oddly enough, if you try to fight back people are more likely to jump in and help you too.

That is a weird oddity. I have no idea why that is true but I believe you very are correct. Interesting observation.
 
lol, I'd like to point out, they suck at delivering "beatings" dude had no injuries.


I hope they catch the thugs.
 
So they will be charged with a hate crime then? Fbi will look in on this? Eric holder? Obama?

I'm not sure about being charged with a hate crime, but if the locals identify, arrest and prosecute the attackers, I'm not sure why the FBI would need to get involved.

Double standard. This isn't me being a "white victim" either. This is me pointing out glaring social injustice and a HUGE double standard that further created a culture of acceptance of violence.

When whites who are victims of violence don't get timely responses from law enforcement, you'll have a point. Maybe you can find me a case where the police failed to investigate and prosecute violence directed towards whites by blacks.
 
The only hope I have is that, eventually, it's gonna be nothing but mixed "race" babies running around. When we're all light brown, this will all go away.

What an utterly idiotic and extremely ignorant thing to say.
 
How do you know the attackers didn't have guns? Fenton assumed that they at least had access to them.

They didn't use them. And I just doubt it. If anything. Maybe a knife. And at any rate...if the guy shot them he may not have gotten beat
 
You didn't answer my question. Was this a hate crime? Was it somehow justified for them to do this?

You could probably call it that. White men are not a protected class, nor should they be.

I think hate crime charges are generally ridiculous anyway, and I won't support them here just because it's a white victim.
 
You could probably call it that. White men are not a protected class, nor should they be.

I think hate crime charges are generally ridiculous anyway, and I won't support them here just because it's a white victim.

So black people are different than white people, and thus should be treated that way. Got it.

And racism is irrelevant if it is black on white, but not the other way around. Again. This is the cultural gutter that makes *racism* acceptable. Typical democrat.
 
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Who is saying this was acceptable?

I hope they catch the guy. It looks like they got a pretty good shot of him.

The democrats will defend this guy up and down. He is just "reacting to institutional racism." It won't be a "hate crime" even though it is racism. Racism is acceptable to the democrats, as long as it gets them more votes.
 

The idea that no one came to his assistance reminds of my brother's after school beatings from some kids up the road (white, upper middle-class, both them and us, just to be clear it happens everywhere)... anyway, when the stop would be approaching, the kids on the bus knew my brother was going to get the **** kicked out of him, but they giggled and laughed at him too. . . because they knew him and figured he might probably deserve it. I wonder if on a MetroLink where people tend to ride the same trains at the same times day after day, similar to a school bus, if they didn't have valid opinion of this man that made them not feel any empathy or sympathy towards this man.
 
The idea that no one came to his assistance reminds of my brother's after school beatings from some kids up the road (white, upper middle-class, both them and us, just to be clear it happens everywhere)... anyway, when the stop would be approaching, the kids on the bus knew my brother was going to get the **** kicked out of him, but they giggled and laughed at him too. . . because they knew him and figured he might probably deserve it. I wonder if on a MetroLink where people tend to ride the same trains at the same times day after day, similar to a school bus, if they didn't have valid opinion of this man that made them not feel any empathy or sympathy towards this man.

Doesn't make it right. And it certainly was a hate crime. Guy being targeted because he is white (hence questions).
 
So black people are different than white people, and thus should be treated that way. Got it.

And racism is irrelevant if it is black on white, but not the other way around. Again. This is the cultural gutter that makes *racism* acceptable. Typical democrat.

Way to totally not read a thing I said! You win!
 
Way to totally not read a thing I said! You win!

Black people ARE a protected class to you though. That means they deserve special treatment. Pretty simple really. I read exactly what you wrote. Maybe you just don't understand what it means? A protected class means they get special treatment. It means they aren't capable of being normal without it.

Sorry. I'm republican. I believe every individual is capable of success in failure on their own merits...not skin color ;)
 
Black people ARE a protected class to you though. That means they deserve special treatment. Pretty simple really. I read exactly what you wrote. Maybe you just don't understand what it means? A protected class means they get special treatment. It means they aren't capable of being normal without it.

Sorry. I'm republican. I believe every individual is capable of success in failure on their own merits...not skin color ;)

You read what you wanted to read. Not a surprise to be honest.

See, it would be legally impossible to do a hate crime here because of what the law is. You admit that you're drinking the red koolaid and blame me for your comprehension problems
 
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