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Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

MMC said:
Yeah, and then some are actually out explaining what it really is about.



To further quell the left's hysteria over this law, here is a pro-gay rights law professor, Daniel O. Conkle, writing for USA Today on why Indiana needs RFRA. I am a supporter of gay rights, including same-sex marriage. But as an informed legal scholar, I also support the proposed Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA). How can this be?


The bill would establish a general legal standard, the "compelling interest" test, for evaluating laws and governmental practices that impose substantial burdens on the exercise of religion. This same test already governs federal law under the federal RFRA, which was signed into law by President Bill Clinton. And some 30 states have adopted the same standard, either under state-law RFRAs or as a matter of state constitutional law. Applying this test, a unanimous U.S. Supreme Court recently ruled that a Muslim prisoner was free to practice his faith by wearing a half-inch beard that posed no risk to prison security. Likewise, in a 2012 decision, a court ruled that the Pennsylvania RFRA protected the outreach ministry of a group of Philadelphia churches, ruling that the city could not bar them from feeding homeless individuals in the city parks.If the Indiana RFRA is adopted, this same general approach will govern religious freedom claims of all sorts, thus protecting religious believers of all faiths by granting them precisely the same consideration. But granting religious believers legal consideration does not mean that their religious objections will always be upheld.

In any event, most religious freedom claims have nothing to do with same-sex marriage or discrimination. The proposed Indiana RFRA would provide valuable guidance to Indiana courts, directing them to balance religious freedom against competing interests under the same legal standard that applies throughout most of the land. It is anything but a "license to discriminate," and it should not be mischaracterized or dismissed on that basis......snip~

Oh Dear: The Liberal Hysteria Over Indiana
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What? More drama and histrionics from drama queens of politics? No! Say it isn't so! :lamo
 
TurtleDude said:
Lots of people want someone else to make the tough decisions for them and to assume the risk of such decisions
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Really? Seems like you can't stand the idea of those in poverty getting help with a tiny portion of your tax dollars.
 
Henrin said:
You can Google it yourself. Libertarians are smarter than liberals by a wide margin.

You know what's really funny? That the smarter someone gets the more unlikely it becomes they are collectivist little assholes. I wonder if dumb people are sheep. Hmm..
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To be fair, the social conservatives are pretty low on the IQ scale too.
 
Logicman said:
God is not mocked. There's going to be a price to pay for this Sodom and Gomorrah decadence, either on earth or in the hereafter. Be forewarned.
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God is not to be used personal hitman, or anyone's for that matter. Stop using the concept of an angry god to try to scare people.

Booga booga!
 
Dovkan said:
Really? Seems like you can't stand the idea of those in poverty getting help with a tiny portion of your tax dollars.
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I enjoy how liberals think they get moral credit for government action.
 
beefheart said:
God is not to be used personal hitman, or anyone's for that matter. Stop using the concept of an angry god to try to scare people.

Booga booga!
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You've demonstrated many times in the past (and again just now) that your views are incompatible with Biblical theology and an understanding of the Biblical God.
 
Logicman said:
You've demonstrated many times in the past (and again just now) that your views are incompatible with Biblical theology and an understanding of the Biblical God.
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Your postings have done more to make people agnostic and atheists than any poster I have ever read. Your bible is just an old book of fables written for bronze aged people, it has no powers...other than to be used to excuse the most awful crimes man inflicts on others.
 
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JANFU said:
People shout when they are wrong.
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Look at all the shouting the left end is doing over this law. I guess they must be wrong. In fact, I'm sure of it.
 
beefheart said:
You have done more to make people agnostic and atheists than any poster I have ever read. Your bible is just an old book of fables written for bronze aged people, it has no powers...other than to be used to excuse the most awful crimes man inflicts on others.
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Relevant to ease the mood of this thread. - Conservative Jesus
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Fletch said:
There are plenty of educated liberals. But the vast majority of liberals aren't very bright at all, but rather think they inherit intelligence of others second hand by just claiming to be liberals.
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Interesting. Got a cite for that? :lamo
 
Henrin said:
Why do you think a government license would be a way for government to bypass the Constitution?
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Anti-discrimination laws are Constitutional. They've been challenged and upheld. It's how the system works. That you don't agree doesn't make them unconstitutional.
 
AGENT J said:
really where?
wheres my intolerance, wheres my bigotry?
FYI Im a christian LMAO
facts win again
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Isn't humility one of the values that Christianity purports?
 
Dovkan said:
Then I have trouble taking you seriously.
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I have trouble taking anyone who claims to be a communist seriously because that philosophy has caused the deaths of untold millions
 
disneydude said:
Like I said in my post....most right-wingers always try to blame "liberal colleges" because they have no other answer to the facts.
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If it weren't for the liberal indoctrination going on there, you might have as point, but as it exists and it is being performed there, you don't.
 
TurtleDude said:
I have trouble taking anyone who claims to be a communist seriously because that philosophy has caused the deaths of untold millions
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Oh boy, here we go with this again, communism has never been put into place, you are talking about leaders of socialist states that caused their people to die by bad actions/plans. Although, I'll tell you what has caused millions of deaths. Capitalism. Not going to keep discussing this though, whole thread will derail.
 
eohrnberger said:
If it weren't for the liberal indoctrination going on there, you might have as point, but as it exists and it is being performed there, you don't.
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Liberal indoctrination = exposing students to information.
 
Dovkan said:
Oh boy, here we go with this again, communism has never been put into place, you are talking about leaders of socialist states that caused their people to die by bad actions and plans. Although, I'll tell you what has caused millions of deaths. Capitalism.
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capitalism has created the best standard of living in the world. Communism-well lets see

we had Stalin-20-40 million killed. Mao 15-20 million killed. Pol Pot-hard to say maybe 5 million. great track record there
 
Amadeus said:
Liberal indoctrination = exposing students to information.
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depends if the information is accurate and balanced, or one-sided and inaccurate. when it comes to liberalism, I will take unbalanced and inaccurate for 2000 Alex
 
TurtleDude said:
I have trouble taking anyone who claims to be a communist seriously because that philosophy has caused the deaths of untold millions
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So says the guy that packs thousands of rounds of ammunition in his basement....
 
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