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Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

So in other words, no physician declined medical treatment to your gay friend because he was gay, which is what you claimed the other day.
The questionaire told them that he's gay, He was suggested to go somewhere else. Did they say "we don't serve homo's here"? No, He was discreetly informed that they would not be seeing him. I asked him if the place was packed or overbooked. He told me that there were a handful of people in the place and that it wasn't. What's happening here is business owners are testing the waters with this crap.
 
Judges shouldn't be elected I agree. How do you believe they should get to their respective positions then?

That story in your signature line. Did that news make it to the Netherlands?

No, I am a big fan of sarcastic new-shows like the Daily show, the Colbert Report (sadly gone), Bill Maher's Real Time and Last week tonight with John Oliver, and that is where I read about that story and looked into it in the real news media and thought it was a disgraceful way to misuse a discussion about state raptors in such a manner.
 
quote what Match said that you claim to not understand and called hyperbole so I can assist you to understand..

I already explained several times that the entire post misrepresented what he quoted. I understand that you do not what to address that as it throws you off your agenda, but that doesn't alter it's accuracy.
 
There should NOT be a law to have it as an option for Me to serve them or not. It's wrong to arbitrarily remove potential customers that you don't like the looks of for whatever personal prejudices that you have. What if I go to Burger King and demand a Big-Mac? Your analogy isn't relevant. You don't go into places of businesses asking for products that they don't provide and that has nothing to do with if it's right or not to kick out people that you don't like the looks of.

Your post is a liberal dodge and my point is as solid as it gets.. you just simply dont like the law of freedom..
 
You ever think maybe they just couldnt help him period with what ailed him?.. I had that happen at a walk in emergency dental place.. they said "we cant help you" and I had to go to another.. they didnt have what I needed at that time

I do not believe your story as Drs are cut from a cloth of caring and compassion.. I simply dont think you are telling the whole story but a narrative

So it is YOUR opinion that NO medical professional would EVER do something like this?
 
I already explained several times that the entire post misrepresented what he quoted. I understand that you do not what to address that as it throws you off your agenda, but that doesn't alter it's accuracy.

again.,.. post the parts you dont understand so I can assist you..Im willing to help you
 
The questionaire told them that he's gay, He was suggested to go somewhere else. Did they say "we don't serve homo's here"? No, He was discreetly informed that they would not be seeing him. I asked him if the place was packed or overbooked. He told me that there were a handful of people in the place and that it wasn't. What's happening here is business owners are testing the waters with this crap.

Yes, on the exact same day, within minutes of Pence signing this into law, your gay friend walked into a clinic and was asked to leave, only because he's gay, because the clinic - obviously major homophobes - want to "test the waters". That's the biggest crock of **** I've read on here in ages.
 
I pose this scenario again

" a Jewish or Christian man walks into a Muslim restaurant and says " I want bacon now, and I want you to make me a bacon cake with two men kissing on it for my wedding"...

should the Muslim owner have to make them " a bacon cake with men kissing on it"..????.

this is quite a question to a liberal...

to me the answer is NO.. the Muslim owner should be free to say " Im sorry, its against my religion, there is a nice butcher down the street that Im sure will make it for you.. have a nice day"


thats the spirit of the law..

So, since I am a liberal, tell me what you think my position on this is.
 
The state of CT has just announced it will not fund any travel to the state of Indiana while this is going down. Hysterical.

Seattle, San Francisco, and Connecticut to Ban Government-Funded Travel to Indiana| Gay News | Towleroad
or this one...you choose
Connecticut's Governor Doesn't Understand His Own State's RFRA
Dan Malloy. Malloy, a Democrat, just announced on Twitter that he plans to sign an executive order banning state travel to Indiana due to the midwestern state’s recently enacted Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

Good thing the UConn Men's team didn't go to the tournament finals this year.
 
again.,.. post the parts you dont understand so I can assist you..Im willing to help you

Again, since the issue is not about understanding but about misrepresenting, let me know when you want to be honest about the issue so we can actually discuss it.
 
So it is YOUR opinion that NO medical professional would EVER do something like this?

99%... can never say 100% but I find it very unlikely even it was Richard Simmons with a "Right Said Fred world tour" t shirt on.. Drs do not allow the injured to go untreated for some political position..

But walk in clinics mayn times are not staffed with the right person at the moment and or equipment.....I just experienced that myself.. I am not gay
 
No, I am a big fan of sarcastic new-shows like the Daily show, the Colbert Report (sadly gone), Bill Maher's Real Time and Last week tonight with John Oliver, and that is where I read about that story and looked into it in the real news media and thought it was a disgraceful way to misuse a discussion about state raptors in such a manner.

I can't believe any of those guys picked it up. I live in NH and it got about 6 seconds mention on our news channels and barely a mention in our newspapers.

Nobody I know of cared that he used a discussion about our state bird in such a manner. It was how something proposed by kids was hijacked for political purposes - by both sides, by the way.
 
Again, since the issue is not about understanding but about misrepresenting, let me know when you want to be honest about the issue so we can actually discuss it.
again.. quote whats the issue so I can help you.. I cant read minds
 
So, since I am a liberal, tell me what you think my position on this is.

to be told you are right..and if its not your post, angle or agenda its incorrect... the usual
 
But it's okay to kick me out because I'm blonde, or because I smell like cigarettes, or because I pick my nose at the table, or because he doesn't feel like serving me, or because I look like the teenager who broke his heart, or because my brother took his place on the basketball team, or because......the list goes on endlessly.

Either make it a rule that he has to serve everyone, or know that the market will ferret out people who have stupid business models.

No, the world isn't black and white and there's no reason this has to be absolutely one way or the other.
 
The state of CT has just announced it will not fund any travel to the state of Indiana while this is going down. Hysterical.

Seattle, San Francisco, and Connecticut to Ban Government-Funded Travel to Indiana| Gay News | Towleroad
or this one...you choose
Connecticut's Governor Doesn't Understand His Own State's RFRA


Good thing the UConn Men's team didn't go to the tournament finals this year.

I saw that.. CRAZY LIBERAL OVER REACTION!!!!...
thanks for posting that
 
The state of CT has just announced it will not fund any travel to the state of Indiana while this is going down. Hysterical.

Seattle, San Francisco, and Connecticut to Ban Government-Funded Travel to Indiana| Gay News | Towleroad
or this one...you choose
Connecticut's Governor Doesn't Understand His Own State's RFRA


Good thing the UConn Men's team didn't go to the tournament finals this year.

OMG Malloy is such an embarrassment. Seriously.

Yes, I'm sure there was a lot of state travel to Indiana for CT government employees. :roll:

OMFG on CT's religious freedom law. OMFG. I should laugh at his ignorance, but I have a lot of friends who still live in CT and I feel sorry for them now.

Malloy needs to get back to his efforts to capitalize on Sandy Hook and leave the lawmaking to the smart people.
 
How did that physician who refused to treat your gay friend within minutes of Pence signing this law know he was gay? How do all of these business people you said have been treating your friend badly since the 1980s know he's gay?

By the way, what was the physician's name who refused to provide medical treatment to your friend? Surely you found that out by now.

I suspect that doctor was the product of a lively imagination, created to support a fable.
 
There is no "dress code". She told them she wasn't going to do business with them because she loves animals. She refused to serve people in the past who park outside with dead deer on the trucks too. No difference at all. They aren't welcome there even with different shirts.
So this is a vegetarian restaurant? Or is your friend fine with the killing of animals so long as they arrive in 4x4 pre-sliced squares?

You can decline service to people for any reason.
Really? Let's see if your friend gets away with "you'll have to leave, because I don't like black people."

If you're a hairdresser, nobody can come in and demand that you cut their hair and you have to do it. If you're an accountant, nobody can come in and demand that you do their taxes and you have to do it. There are no laws that say you must serve just anyone who wants to be served.
No, but there are laws in most if not all states that you cannot deny service for purely arbitrary reasons like "I don't do taxes for blondes."
 
I pose this scenario again

" a Jewish or Christian man walks into a Muslim restaurant and says " I want bacon now, and I want you to make me a bacon cake with two men kissing on it for my wedding"...

should the Muslim owner have to make them " a bacon cake with men kissing on it"..????.

this is quite a question to a liberal...

to me the answer is NO.. the Muslim owner should be free to say " Im sorry, its against my religion, there is a nice butcher down the street that Im sure will make it for you.. have a nice day"


thats the spirit of the law..

A Muslim business owner can refuse to serve bacon, but they can't refuse to serve bacon to black people but serve bacon to white people anyway. Hope this helps your confusion.
 
A Muslim business owner can refuse to serve bacon, but they can't refuse to serve bacon to black people but serve bacon to white people anyway. Hope this helps your confusion.

I see you are confused... what part of my post was confusing..again the law is about "religious freedom"..
 
My friend visited a clinic in Marion Indiana for nothing serious he says. After filling out a standard questionaire, in his words he was "strongly recommended another clinic" Do you really think that businesses are NOT going to be using this BS law to jettison those who are gay or those that they don't like the looks of. Especially right center smack dab in Central WASP Indiana. I've spent a great deal of time in Fairmount Indiana, I've seen what they deal with. I get stink eye from the locals for the way that I look. And this law is just what the locals will use to make their feelings "extra known" to them.

I call total BS, sorry dude. Pence signed the law two days ago. It doesn't go into effect immediately.

Tim-
 
The state of CT has just announced it will not fund any travel to the state of Indiana while this is going down. Hysterical.

Seattle, San Francisco, and Connecticut to Ban Government-Funded Travel to Indiana| Gay News | Towleroad
or this one...you choose
Connecticut's Governor Doesn't Understand His Own State's RFRA


Good thing the UConn Men's team didn't go to the tournament finals this year.

Every time I turn around, I see new reasons to be damned happy I don't live in Connecticut any more. Maybe fewer liberal weenies from Nooengland will lower the average IQ of my state temporarily by driving through it.
 
Your post is a liberal dodge and my point is as solid as it gets.. you just simply dont like the law of freedom..

Arbitrarily jettisoning those that you don't like the looks off from a business that serves the public isn't freedom. That's some nazi era ****.
 
So this is a vegetarian restaurant? Or is your friend fine with the killing of animals so long as they arrive in 4x4 pre-sliced squares?


Really? Let's see if your friend gets away with "you'll have to leave, because I don't like black people."


No, but there are laws in most if not all states that you cannot deny service for purely arbitrary reasons like "I don't do taxes for blondes."

Nope, not a vegetarian restaurant. She, like I, loves animals and doesn't appreciate jokes about animals being made into meat.

She can't say "You have to leave because I don't like black people". Black people are of the protected class. Have you been following along?

What are the laws that say you can't deny service for purely arbitrary reasons? If I own a cleaning service, and I clean the house next to you, what law says I have to clean your house just because you want me to if I decide I don't want to do it because you have kids and I don't like kids? That's arbitrary.
 
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