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Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

1.) false based on legality and definition they are
2.) see #1
3.) again see #1 EEO/AA protects all of us
4.) actually its based on facts, AS MY STSTMENT IS WRITTEN, its 100% true and trying to dishonestly change it to something else is a complete failure and straw man.
if you disagree simply post the law that says "i must serve gays", you will completely fail and your lie or ignorance of the law will be shown.
5.) thank you for proving me 100% right, see where you use dthe word IF, that proves me right.
maybe read the thread before you jump in the middle and totally own your own posts.

the claim was made that there is force to serve protected groupp, that is 100% false. No law exists.

what you just posted an example of AFTER the if is a law that makes ILLEGAL DISCRIMINATION a crime . . NOT simply not serving anybody who belongs to a groups/

so the fact remains i can in fact deny service to anybody i want
what i can not do is violate peoples rights or break the law
simply denying service does NOT do that


6.) i did no that and it was exactly my point, thank you for making it for me. Next time try to understand what is being discussed and you wont repeat the mistake you made. Thanks!

If I walk into your place of business requesting a transaction with you and you refuse that transaction based on My skin color or gender then you are breaking the law. If investigated you would need to come of with a believable smokescreen of why you refused to conduct business with Me. If a pattern was found, that wouldn't fare none that well in your favor.
 
1.)Give me the name of one of these rights.

2.):roll: It makes no difference at all. Can a businesses be sued for not servicing someone for a reason that is banned? Yes or no?

1.) like i said equal and civil rights and many laws behind that, if thats not specific enough you are **** out of luck LMAO Ill never play your dishonest game you will lose as always. are you claiming those rights dont exists?

2.) actually it makes a world of difference because the answer is factually can change. I know you dont understand that because you dont understand this topic as you keep proving but the answer can be vastly different.

its like asking me if you could be arrested for sex, and then i ask you if the sex was consensual, and you say it doesn't matter. sorry but it in fact DOES matter.

so i will ask you AGAIN, try not to dodge it and post honestly this time: what business, what someone and what "banned reasons" do you speak of
 
She wouldn't even be allowed in the store.

that doesnt answer the question either. you seem to keep dodging.
is your grocery story a public access business? im assuming yes since you didnt say otherwise so now the question is when she walks up to your store how is she stopped and what is the reason why?
 
that doesnt answer the question either. you seem to keep dodging.
is your grocery story a public access business? im assuming yes since you didnt say otherwise so now the question is when she walks up to your store how is she stopped and what is the reason why?
It's a private business that is open only to heterosexual white males. There will be a security guard at the door. If you're not a heterosexual white male then the security guard will not let you in.
 
I thought title ii of the Civil Rights Act I'm not aware that a business can get away with refusing service to a black person because they are black or to a female because they are female.

ahhhhhhh and there you go, now you added a VERY important part that is not being discussed
that would be true the civil rights act does not allow you to ILLEGALLY DISCRIMINATE

what i asked for is a law that force me to do serve with gays?

so if im make widgets and a gay guy comes in and wants 5000 widgets by this afternoon, what law FORCES me to serve him because he is gay?
 
1.) like i said equal and civil rights and many laws behind that, if thats not specific enough you are **** out of luck LMAO Ill never play your dishonest game you will lose as always. are you claiming those rights dont exists?

:roll: Yes, so what rights do civil rights laws protect? The right to ________. Just answer the damn question already.



its like asking me if you could be arrested for sex, and then i ask you if the sex was consensual, and you say it doesn't matter. sorry but it in fact DOES matter.

That makes no sense.

so i will ask you AGAIN, try not to dodge it and post honestly this time: what business, what someone and what "banned reasons" do you speak of

Obviously I'm talking about businesses affected by the law. Duh?
 
It doesn't matter what I say. She is a woman and the store doesn't sell to women. She will be removed and refused service like all other women.

???????? why are you responding to this? oh oh lol
 
wow thats a nice long waste of a post based on your biased and dishonest opinions and feelings that dont matter. LMAO

Nobody educated, honest and objective falls for "the gay agenda", "force of acceptance", "market will fix itself" dishonesty mentally retard "rhetoric", it just gets mocked and laughed at for the desperation it is.

you challeneges are 10- 0 lifetime against me and nothing has changed

your post fails and facts win again

Just wanted to highlight you one more time. Weird, I get infracted for stuff like this all the time, wonder what will happen to you? In any event, I placed the 1 beside your typo, I think you missed it. ;)

Tim-
 
that doesnt answer the question either. you seem to keep dodging.
is your grocery story a public access business? im assuming yes since you didnt say otherwise so now the question is when she walks up to your store how is she stopped and what is the reason why?

Computer gate that validates if you are 100% ma-male.
 
You are correct. "Tolerance" and bigotry are a two-way street. The gays who are repelled by a baker's religious beliefs and who crave to force the baker to serve them are not being tolerant, they are self-righteous gay crusaders backed force.

For those who actually are tolerant, its not that difficult. If a person does not want to trade, date, or associate with you...you move on. If you don't want to trade, date, or associate them, they move on. THAT is tolerance.

But for those that can't move on, like the gay persecutors of the baker(s), they are little more than stalkers - they just can't stand the thought of being rejected and, like all stalkers, wish to destroy those who exercise their right to associate with whom they please.

Too bad they can't be locked up.

So you're repeal part or all of the CRA as well, especially Title II. Whites Only, etc.? Maybe it's just gays who shouldn't have any protection from discrimination?
 
1.) It's a private business that is open only to heterosexual white males.
2.) There will be a security guard at the door. If you're not a heterosexual white male then the security guard will not let you in.

1.) a private business? youll need to further explain. Is it a nonprofit membership?
2.) well i cant really expand on this until you answer #1 but out of curiosity how will the guard know a person is a heterosexual white male
 
1.) a private business? youll need to further explain. Is it a nonprofit membership?
2.) well i cant really expand on this until you answer #1 but out of curiosity how will the guard know a person is a heterosexual white male
It's a privately owned business.... Like most businesses. The is no membership.

He will use his discretion.
 
1.):roll: Yes, so what rights do civil rights laws protect? The right to ________. Just answer the damn question already.
2.)That makes no sense.
3.)Obviously I'm talking about businesses affected by the law. Duh?

1.) roll your eyes all you want but im not playing any dishonesty silly games. google civil rights since you dont understand them
2.) actually it makes perfect since. because the answers are in fact different. Are you claiming the answers are not different? lol
3.) thats what i thought, another dodge, that doesnt answer anything. WHAT LAW?
 
1.) a private business? youll need to further explain. Is it a nonprofit membership?
2.) well i cant really expand on this until you answer #1 but out of curiosity how will the guard know a person is a heterosexual white male
Let's drop the heterosexual part. Let's just stick with white males. It's easy for the security guard to tell if someone is a white male.
 
ahhhhhhh and there you go, now you added a VERY important part that is not being discussed
that would be true the civil rights act does not allow you to ILLEGALLY DISCRIMINATE

what i asked for is a law that force me to do serve with gays?

so if im make widgets and a gay guy comes in and wants 5000 widgets by this afternoon, what law FORCES me to serve him because he is gay?

Something like fifteen states have anti-discriminatory laws specifically targeting sexual orientation and gender identity. This bonehead politician who signed this bill is on the wrong side of history.
 
Just wanted to highlight you one more time. Weird, I get infracted for stuff like this all the time, wonder what will happen to you? In any event, I placed the 1 beside your typo, I think you missed it. ;)

Tim-

translation: you got nothing lol
please let me know when you have anything that supports your claims, thanks
facts win again
 
1.)It's a privately owned business.... Like most businesses. The is no membership.
2.)He will use his discretion.

1.) ok that sets good ground work so its a public access business.
2.) ok perfect so when the woman walks up will she be told there is no women allowed in the store?
 
Something like fifteen states have anti-discriminatory laws specifically targeting sexual orientation and gender identity. This bonehead politician who signed this bill is on the wrong side of history.

yep and in the end the best part is he will actually HELP equal rights . . . .
his bigotry and this bill will aid in the fight against discrimination, its awesome!
 
So you're repeal part or all of the CRA as well, especially Title II. Whites Only, etc.? Maybe it's just gays who shouldn't have any protection from discrimination?

Title II and Title VII need to be repealed along with laws such as the Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978, Age Discrimination in Employment Act, Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, Civil Rights Act of 1968 and any other relevant federal and state laws. Needless to say this crap is a virus and it will take some doing to get rid of it.
 
I can respond to anything I want. Get over it.

LOL

this is a perfect example of how your post work and the made up arguments you have all the time

did i even suggest you werent allowed to respond or can't? noooooooope

just another thing you invented, thanks for that perfect example of your posting MO.
 
1.) roll your eyes all you want but im not playing any dishonesty silly games. google civil rights since you dont understand them

Sigh. Again, I asked you to give me a right the laws protect. Do you have one?

3.) thats what i thought, another dodge, that doesnt answer anything. WHAT LAW?

What do you think we are talking about? You aren't usually this blind and ignorant.
 
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