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Work went to **** - 2 people out of 6 quit - schedules a crud hole that i am working on.
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Except that several of your categories overlap to a great extent. Blacks were the unexpected difference makers.
I didn't say otherwise.
What I said was that a for-profit business calling themselves a "private club" does not automatically exempt themselves from Pubic Accommodation laws - which is different from what you said.
* Selective membership and admission policies, such policies cannot intended to evade Public Accommodation laws
* Bylaws and adherence to bylaws
* Membership control over governance, non-membership control will disqualify an entity from being exempt from Public Accommodation laws.
* A clear non-business statement of purpose, commercial or business directed purposes don't qualify for exemption from Public Accommodation laws
* Operation as a "non-profit" entity, "for-profit" activities will typically disqualify an entity from being exempt from Public Accommodation laws
* Advertisement and use of facilities, advertising availablity of resources typically will disqualify an entity from Pubic Accommodation laws
https://www.nationalclub.org/clientuploads/NCALegalQABooklet_FINAL_no print marks.pdf
Private club legal definition of Private club
http://www.cmaa.org/uploadedFiles/PCS/MayJune02legal.pdf
http://scholarship.law.umt.edu/cgi/...#search="public business versus private club"
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Your facts aren't facts. Melissa's Cupcakes is still in business. They're running it out of their home
And they still have the huge fine hanging over their heads
And they still have the huge fine hanging over their heads, and didn't they have a nice little storefront before? Yeah, they are completely undamaged. :roll:
Yes, and that overlap is primarily age and religiosity, and that if you take those factors into account the black factor is no longer relevant to the passing of Prop 8.
Well, no. Substantial black defection from the left coalition was enough to make the difference.
And what was the reason for black people deviating from the typical liberal position? The pigmentation in their skin? No, it was age and religiosity.
Well, I don't think that makes any sense. If I fail to save some guy that fell overboard I didn't kill him and more likely no one else did. The guy just fell off the boat. No one is responsible for that.
The point is that on this question alone they voted with their age mates.
Govt can regulate business. I know you don't like that but we don't live in the libertarian dictatorship
It's one of the beautiful things about the common law we inherited from England that it does not impose a duty to rescue in most cases. Justice Holmes once noted that a man can sit on a pier, calmly having a smoke, while only a few yards away a helpless woman is drowning, and even if he never lifts a finger to help the law can do nothing to him. In most other countries, that is not the case. Maybe the people there know too many of them are not quite what they should be.
In England and America, at least, it has been a source of pride for centuries that free, civilized people do not need any law to make them do the right thing--that it is a slight to our honor to assume we need anyone to tell us to be decent. Our law has always assumed that a situation like Holmes described, even if it can be imagined in theory, is in fact unthinkable.
And they still have the huge fine hanging over their heads, and didn't they have a nice little storefront before? Yeah, they are completely undamaged. :roll:
Seriously? So if your daughter falls overboard and some man is 10 feet away with a rope and life preserver and instead of throwing it to your daughter and saving her life, he grabs another beer and continues watching the beautiful sunset. You're good with that?
Of course you wouldn't be - you know it, we know it - if you're a normal human being, you're likely to rip his head off if given half a chance, so why make this pretense that it's morally neutral? Literally no one would conclude that if it was their loved one who wasn't saved.
Well then let's quit doing a half ass job then. If a customer says that they don't want to engage in commerce with a business because the owner is gay, they need to be fined and made to do business with gays.
If we're talking about anyone belong allowed to refuse to do business for any reason, as many of us are putting out here, then yes you would have to wonder that, as you may be entering into a minority owned/run business. Maybe it's a woman owned business that refuses to conduct business with men.That's great, but as a member of the majority (white male, dresses mainstream), I don't need to ask myself, "Gee, I wonder if I'll be discriminated against if I try to do business here." A member of the minority would have to deal with that, and would find themselves at a significant disadvantage in the course of doing business, getting an education, etc. By making that type of discrimination illegal you prevent a de facto caste system. If the result of this is that bigots feel irritated by their inability to marginalize the focus of their pettiness, I feel that's an absolutely reasonable price.
Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers - CNN.com
Wow. WTF Indiana????
You trying to out-religious the bible-belt states?
Is Indiana becoming Mississippi2.0 or something?
This is going to be interesting to watch.
The minute a person has to take out a license to shop in a municipality, you might actually have a point. Until then, not so much. But I'll humour you and say quite clearly that I've never had occasion where I went to purchase something and either left a store or refused a purchase I wanted to make based on the race, gender, religion, age, or sexual orientation of the owner of the store or salesperson who served me. I'm not a religious person, so I can't say what would possess a person to refuse to be waited upon by someone based on any of the above criteria. That's because I don't discriminate based on who a person is. But I do discriminate based on how I'm treated and/or the actions of an individual I'm interacting with. I don't suffer fools lightly and they get none of my time.
As far back as I have looked, Indiana has almost always voted with the Confederate South--and switched parties with them .You have no idea believe me. We were the origin of the KKK.
It's one of the beautiful things about the common law we inherited from England that it does not impose a duty to rescue in most cases. Justice Holmes once noted that a man can sit on a pier, calmly having a smoke, while only a few yards away a helpless woman is drowning, and even if he never lifts a finger to help the law can do nothing to him. In most other countries, that is not the case. Maybe the people there know too many of them are not quite what they should be.
In England and America, at least, it has been a source of pride for centuries that free, civilized people do not need any law to make them do the right thing--that it is a slight to our honor to assume we need anyone to tell us to be decent. Our law has always assumed that a situation like Holmes described, even if it can be imagined in theory, is in fact unthinkable.
If we're talking about anyone belong allowed to refuse to do business for any reason, as many of us are putting out here, then yes you would have to wonder that, as you may be entering into a minority owned/run business. Maybe it's a woman owned business that refuses to conduct business with men.
That is exactly what is happening in America. If you want to run your business according to your Christian beliefs, you can literally be forced out of business. That form of discrimination is celebrated by liberals all across America
Depends on the district you're living in, which may have a good samaritan law.
And they still have the huge fine hanging over their heads, and didn't they have a nice little storefront before? Yeah, they are completely undamaged. :roll: