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Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

BrewerBob said:
I am an atheist in a mixed race marriage and I think private, non-essential businesses should be able to discriminate for whatever stupid reason they want. And we have the right to publicly shame them out of business. I sure don't want a theocracy.
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People who provide essential goods and services don't have the same rights to religious beliefs?
 
Blemonds said:
That is exactly what is happening in America. If you want to run your business according to your Christian beliefs, you can literally be forced out of business. That form of discrimination is celebrated by liberals all across America
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You talk about discrimination as if you think it's a bad thing.
 
Dragonfly said:
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Rock on guys.....rock on. :roll:
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Why do you believe businesses must serve people?

Why do you believe in slavery?
 
Blemonds said:
Then I have to patronize businesses that don't discriminate against me. Problem solved
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BrewerBob said:
I am an atheist in a mixed race marriage and I think private, non-essential businesses should be able to discriminate for whatever stupid reason they want. And we have the right to publicly shame them out of business. I sure don't want a theocracy.
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WorldWatcher said:
You know that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People acknowledges that same-sex civil marriage is a Civil Rights struggle.


"“The mission of the NAACP has always been to ensure the political, social and economic equality of all people,” said Roslyn M. Brock, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the NAACP. “We have and will oppose efforts to codify discrimination into law.”

“Civil marriage is a civil right and a matter of civil law. The NAACP’s support for marriage equality is deeply rooted in the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution and equal protection of all people.” said Benjamin Todd Jealous, President and CEO of the NAACP."​

NAACP Passes Resolution in Support of Marriage Equality | NAACP



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That's not something they need to address and they're not a religious organization
 
Thorgasm said:
That's not the issue. The issue is why. If the photographer said he was already booked, there would be no problem. If the photographer says "I can't do it because Jesus wants me to marginalize people who are born like you.", that's were the issue is.
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In neither case is there an issue. The individual backed out of a trade they didn't want to be a party to. That is entirely within their rights to do.
 
Taylor said:
Yes, exactly. The federal government's power to intrude on the rights of business owners in this area is very limited in scope. The only reason they have any power at all is because of some creative interpretation of the interstate commerce clause.
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I see nothing creative about ignoring half of a sentence.
 
Blemonds said:
That is exactly what they're doing. If a business owner declines to do business for certain events based on his personal beliefs, he is punished to the point of being forced out of business. That is a discrimination of sorts that some people find acceptable
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It's not discrimination against religion because if an atheist does it, they are subjected to the same sanctions.

What you're really whining about is that the govt doesn't discriminate in favor of the religious by granting them special rights to ignore the law.
 
WCH said:
Maybe, through their actions, gays have raised themselve to a new level of indecency. A bigger , more in your face sort of sin
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What actions?
 
WCH said:
However, we shouldn't be allowing any government to run them out of business or fine/jail them.
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That isn't what is happening.

When you have to make things up, you know your argument is a loser.
 
Dragonfly said:
Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers - CNN.com



Wow. WTF Indiana????
You trying to out-religious the bible-belt states?
Is Indiana becoming Mississippi2.0 or something?

This is going to be interesting to watch.
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If I can get booted out simply for being legally armed, then others can get booted out simply for being gay. Isn't Equality™ grand?

Now let's hurry up and pass a law requiring gays to tell law enforcement that they're homosexual.
 
Henrin said:
In neither case is there an issue. The individual backed out of a trade they didn't want to be a party to. That is entirely within their rights to do.
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If this were true, why are your ideological allies trying to claim victim status?
 
Jerry said:
If I can get booted out simply for being legally armed, then others can get booted out simply for being gay. Isn't Equality™ grand?

Now let's hurry up and pass a law requiring gays to tell law enforcement that they're homosexual.
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Apples and oranges much?
 
Ockham said:
It's the reason I posted a link - which explains it.
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Your article proves what I said.

The rest of the article is slaying a straw man with regards to my comment.
 
Thorgasm said:
Your article proves what I said.
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Perhaps to someone who didn't read it...

Let me spoon feed it to you shall I? I've bolded the sections which clearly contradict your posts which simply parrots the far left false narrative.

Real Clear Politics said:
Comparing a political opponent to Hitler is obvious evidence of fanaticism, but we are living in hyper-partisan times. Rep. Henry Waxman’s official congressional website repeats the “seven years” calumny while adding that “the Reagan administration consistently refused to commit the resources and effort necessary to provide urgently needed research, health care, and preventive services.”

For the record, Reagan first mentioned AIDS, in response to a question at a press conference, on Sept. 17, 1985. On Feb. 5, 1986, he made a surprise visit to the Department of Health and Human Services where he said, “One of our highest public health priorities is going to be continuing to find a cure for AIDS.” He also announced that he’d tasked Surgeon General C. Everett Koop to prepare a major report on the disease. Contrary to the prevailing wisdom, Reagan dragged Koop into AIDS policy, not the other way around.

As for Waxman’s recollections about AIDS funding, he does an unusual thing for a politician: He’s forgotten the success he and other Democrats had in convincing Reagan to spend more money. The administration increased AIDS funding requests from $8 million in 1982 to $26.5 million in 1983, which Congress bumped to $44 million, a number that doubled every year thereafter during Reagan’s presidency.
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Ronald Reagan and AIDS: Correcting the Record | RealClearPolitics

Thorgasm said:
The rest of the article is slaying a straw man with regards to my comment.
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The rest of the article outs the lie and sets the record straight. Sorry you don't like facts but hyper-partisans rarely do.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Apples and oranges much?
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It's all fruit to me, discrimination is discrimination. If you're open to the public then refusing business for reasons other than something which causes a demonstrable harm to your business shouldn't be allowed.
 
Dragonfly said:
Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers - CNN.com



Wow. WTF Indiana????
You trying to out-religious the bible-belt states?
Is Indiana becoming Mississippi2.0 or something?

This is going to be interesting to watch.
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LOL
its like Ive been saying. since equal rights is winning and winning big these desperate and blatantly vile and bigoted attempts to put up last minute and temporary road blacks will be coming up all over the place.

But I welcome them!
let these bigots put thier views out in the open for all to see, in the end these types of disgusting, anti-freedom and anti-rights moves will HELP further establish equal rights just like SSM banning did. Without mentally retarded, ignorant, hateful, vindictive, vile bigotry like this on full display put into bills or laws there would be nothing to take to court, have it destroyed using the constitution and equal rights and set precedence guaranteeing in the future stupidity like this cant even pass on any level :D

COME ON BIGOTS RALLY, RALLY FOR YOUR CAUSE!
which will actually help equal rights win even more, sweet sweet irony!
 
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